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How come horses can sprint infinitely ???
indigoblades
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My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
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Arsenic_Touch✭✭✭✭✭
✭They said it was a feature. /shrug
Catching a bolt escape sorc? that's hilarious though.Edited by Arsenic_Touch on September 15, 2014 8:18PM☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The stamina isn't for actually sprinting. If you run out of stamina and get hit it throws you off the horse. If you have stamina and get hit it won't throw you off.5 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭It's their racial passive, other mounts will have different bonuses (I am guessing things like more carrying capacity, higher speed(while sprinting), maybe not getting dismounted, jumping bigger, etc. These are only my speculations)."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn1 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Working as intended. It's been stated that each species of mount will have a benefit the others don't - horses being indefinite sprint. Stamina more pertains to how much you can be hit before being knocked off your horse.3 -
Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is working as intended.
Stamina allows your horse to briefly move faster than run speed when you hit the sprint button. You can think of it as "spurs." It quickly drains your stamina to do it.
Also, stamina is used to prevent you from getting knocked off your horse by damage. If you gallop all your stamina away, one hit will dismount you.
I kind of wish people would not make threads about things that have already been well-discussed here (check the search), since ZOS is notorious for knee-jerk wrecking things that were working fine (Night Silence I am looking at YOU.)4 -
indigoblades✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »The stamina isn't for actually sprinting. If you run out of stamina and get hit it throws you off the horse. If you have stamina and get hit it won't throw you off.
my stamina goes down when my horse sprints so therefore i must assume stamina is used for my horse to sprint ... this cant be as intended coz in every other TES game when my horse is out of stamina it slows from spring to a run much like my toon does when they run out of stamina.
Edited by indigoblades on September 15, 2014 8:23PM5 -
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✭indigoblades wrote: »My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
horses are actually jogging as they have a 2-4sec window after sprint activation with even further increased speed.
and its the perk of horses as stated by ZOS - upcomming mounts will have different perks.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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indigoblades✭✭✭indigoblades wrote: »My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
horses are actually jogging as they have a 2-4sec window after sprint activation with even further increased speed.
and its the perk of horses as stated by ZOS - upcomming mounts will have different perks.
Still sounds to me like a bug and not working as intended.
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✭They already said it was working as intended. What more do you want? wait, scratch that. They said night's silence was working as intended, given enough time and people whining, they'll flip flop on this too.
Vaya con dios infinite sprint. /tips hatEdited by Arsenic_Touch on September 15, 2014 8:26PM☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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Kewljag_66_ESO✭✭✭✭✭indigoblades wrote: »indigoblades wrote: »My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
horses are actually jogging as they have a 2-4sec window after sprint activation with even further increased speed.
and its the perk of horses as stated by ZOS - upcomming mounts will have different perks.
Still sounds to me like a bug and not working as intended.indigoblades wrote: »indigoblades wrote: »My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
horses are actually jogging as they have a 2-4sec window after sprint activation with even further increased speed.
and its the perk of horses as stated by ZOS - upcomming mounts will have different perks.
Still sounds to me like a bug and not working as intended.
Stop and think about it.
Your horse can sprint endlessly. The horses stamina has nothing to do with being able to sprint.
Your horses stamina is only for keeping you mounted while taking hits, when your stamina runs out the next hit will knock you off even if its a basic light attack.
Now while you sprint it will slowly drain your stamina, this is the RISK you run while the longer you sprint the less combat you will be bale to ignore before being knocked off. If you choose to sprint until all stamina is gone then you run the RISK of any attack knocking you off your horse.
They stated the horses specially ability over other mounts is that they can permintaely sprint
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indigoblades✭✭✭Real horse cant sprint forever ... it seems wrong. i think it was bug they never had time to fix it, because they cant decide which things are bugs and which things are intended .... in no other game with a stamina bar and sprinting can one sprint forever ... Horses must be bugged.5
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Tamanous✭✭✭✭✭Perhaps better learning tips for riding is need due to all these posts on mounts.
When I read these I change the topic in my mind to:
"Why can't players figure out how mounts work?"3 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭indigoblades wrote: »Real horse cant sprint forever ... it seems wrong. i think it was bug they never had time to fix it, because they cant decide which things are bugs and which things are intended .... in no other game with a stamina bar and sprinting can one sprint forever ... Horses must be bugged.
Real horses aren't summoned from thin air either."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn9 -
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✭✭The horse does not sprint infinitely, it "runs" infinitely. You will notice that once your horse runs out of stamina, it slows down quite a bit.1 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I like how multiple people have mentioned this has been discussed repeatedly, and ZOS has multiple times said it is working as intended, and the OP continues to insist it must be a bug.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.4 -
Kewljag_66_ESO✭✭✭✭✭indigoblades wrote: »Real horse cant sprint forever ... it seems wrong. i think it was bug they never had time to fix it, because they cant decide which things are bugs and which things are intended .... in no other game with a stamina bar and sprinting can one sprint forever ... Horses must be bugged.
Its a really easy concept, the longer you choose to sprint the easier it will be to get knocked off, if you sprint until all your stamina is gone any hit will knock you off.
The real question should be why in the world you think a sorc should have an ability that lets them travel faster than horses and complety takes away the point of having a horse.1 -
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This is not "every other TES game," this is ESO. Also, stamina is used to sprint AND to prevent you from getting knocked off. Deal with it.indigoblades wrote: »my stamina goes down when my horse sprints so therefore i must assume stamina is used for my horse to sprint ... this cant be as intended coz in every other TES game when my horse is out of stamina it slows from spring to a run much like my toon does when they run out of stamina.
In real life my summoned daedric minion doesn't knock people off their horse. Your horse is NOT still sprinting, it is galloping.indigoblades wrote: »My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
It sounds to me like you completely ignored my explanation.indigoblades wrote: »Still sounds to me like a bug and not working as intended.
Stop comparing real life to a fantasy game and assuming something must be wrong if they don't match. Stop comparing this game design to another game design and assuming something must be wrong if they don't match. Problem solved.indigoblades wrote: »Real horse cant sprint forever ... it seems wrong.
People have explained the way this works to you, and the company that designed the game has confirmed it is working as intended.
If it still doesn't feel right to you, well, I think you are alone in that buddy.
Happy trails!
Edited by Phinix1 on September 15, 2014 8:48PM3 -
indigoblades✭✭✭Ok maybe it is all right but they changed sneak speed stacking, because someone started a thread just as stupid as this one i started.
It bothered someone that sneak was too fast with night silence armor stacking just like every thing else stacks. he said it couldn't be working as intended. A MINORITY and the poster who started the thread thought it was Unrealistic that toons could sneak faster than running if they stacked night silence armor. Everyone put the OP down and explained it, just like everyone is explaining horse speed to me. Then low and behold, ZOS official pops in says they are changing it to everyone's surprise..... all off a poor argument. (the argument fantasy toon's should be realistic)
Also, Sneak speed was brought up previously on PTS when it was 1st introduced, and Zos said sneak stacking was "as intended" ... then a month later they nerf night silence bonus after someone posted in LIVE he thinks it is unrealistic ................... Horses sprinting forever being a problem is just as Silly. To be honest, i just wanted to show how silly a this is not realistic argument is in a fantasy game. i hate this doesn't seem right arguments based on little to nothing, so i thought i might try one.
Happy Trails!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/129044/any-word-on-the-ridiculous-sneak-speeds/p1
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✭✭✭✭✭The horse does not sprint infinitely, it "runs" infinitely. You will notice that once your horse runs out of stamina, it slows down quite a bit.
I have been paying close attention to this. Your horse does not slow down when the Horse's stamina bar is depleted. But, the game does seem to lose the repeats on the Left Shift so the horse slows down because of that and won't speed back up until you have regen'd some stamina. This slow down can occur subtlty too so sometimes I don't notice that it has slowed down, until I tap the Left Shift again. It also seems that if the horse did slow down, then the Left Shift has to be released and remashed to get the Sprint.
Weirdly, it's your Stamina Regen that drives the horse Regen. So, Medium Armor users get a horse with more Stamina Regen than a LA or HA users does.
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✭✭✭✭✭indigoblades wrote: »Ok maybe it is all right but they changed sneak speed stacking, because someone started a thread just as stupid as this one i started.
It bothered someone that sneak was too fast with night silence armor stacking just like every thing else stacks. he said it couldn't be working as intended. A MINORITY and the poster who started the thread thought it was Unrealistic that toons could sneak faster than running if they stacked night silence armor. Everyone put the OP down and explained it, just like everyone is explaining horse speed to me. Then low and behold, ZOS official pops in says they are changing it to everyone's surprise..... all off a poor argument. (the argument fantasy toon's should be realistic)
Also, Sneak speed was brought up previously on PTS when it was 1st introduced, and Zos said sneak stacking was "as intended" ... then a month later they nerf night silence bonus after someone posted in LIVE he thinks it is unrealistic ................... Horses sprinting forever being a problem is just as Silly. To be honest, i just wanted to show how silly a this is not realistic argument is in a fantasy game. i hate this doesn't seem right arguments based on little to nothing, so i thought i might try one.
Happy Trails!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/129044/any-word-on-the-ridiculous-sneak-speeds/p1
I agree with what you are trying to do man, but (and forgive the pun given the topic for the thread you chose) I really feel you are beating a dead horse with this. XD
Sadly ZOS knee-jerks to people that whine for the most ridiculous reasons.
There is absolutely no justifiable reason that a person in a stupid armor set should be able to sneak as fast as an immortal vampire. They have completely wrecked my immersion in the supernatural aspect of this sub-class, since I no longer use bats or drain in PVP.
Basically all I get now is no health regen and some fire weakness. Lovely.
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✭indigoblades wrote: »Ok maybe it is all right but they changed sneak speed stacking, because someone started a thread just as stupid as this one i started.
It bothered someone that sneak was too fast with night silence armor stacking just like every thing else stacks. he said it couldn't be working as intended. A MINORITY and the poster who started the thread thought it was Unrealistic that toons could sneak faster than running if they stacked night silence armor. Everyone put the OP down and explained it, just like everyone is explaining horse speed to me. Then low and behold, ZOS official pops in says they are changing it to everyone's surprise..... all off a poor argument. (the argument fantasy toon's should be realistic)
Also, Sneak speed was brought up previously on PTS when it was 1st introduced, and Zos said sneak stacking was "as intended" ... then a month later they nerf night silence bonus after someone posted in LIVE he thinks it is unrealistic ................... Horses sprinting forever being a problem is just as Silly. To be honest, i just wanted to show how silly a this is not realistic argument is in a fantasy game. i hate this doesn't seem right arguments based on little to nothing, so i thought i might try one.
Happy Trails!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/129044/any-word-on-the-ridiculous-sneak-speeds/p1
Oooh I see what you are trying to do.
In that case...
WTF ZOS, this is CLEARLY broken. It's ridiculous that people can sprint indefinitely on horses. It infuriates me and makes me want to unsub.
Clearly this is a bug and should be fixed IMMEDIATELY!Edited by smeeprocketnub19_ESO on September 15, 2014 9:17PMDear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »indigoblades wrote: »Ok maybe it is all right but they changed sneak speed stacking, because someone started a thread just as stupid as this one i started.
It bothered someone that sneak was too fast with night silence armor stacking just like every thing else stacks. he said it couldn't be working as intended. A MINORITY and the poster who started the thread thought it was Unrealistic that toons could sneak faster than running if they stacked night silence armor. Everyone put the OP down and explained it, just like everyone is explaining horse speed to me. Then low and behold, ZOS official pops in says they are changing it to everyone's surprise..... all off a poor argument. (the argument fantasy toon's should be realistic)
Also, Sneak speed was brought up previously on PTS when it was 1st introduced, and Zos said sneak stacking was "as intended" ... then a month later they nerf night silence bonus after someone posted in LIVE he thinks it is unrealistic ................... Horses sprinting forever being a problem is just as Silly. To be honest, i just wanted to show how silly a this is not realistic argument is in a fantasy game. i hate this doesn't seem right arguments based on little to nothing, so i thought i might try one.
Happy Trails!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/129044/any-word-on-the-ridiculous-sneak-speeds/p1
Oooh I see what you are trying to do.
In that case...
WTF ZOS, this is CLEARLY broken. It's ridiculous that people can sprint indefinitely on horses. It infuriates me and makes me want to unsub.
Clearly this is a bug and should be fixed IMMEDIATELY!
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✭✭✭Your horse runs infinitely?
Edit: (Before the Forum mods remove this and give me a warning please note: I do not condone accusing women of witchcraft or the action of burning them if they weigh the same as a duck. I also do not condone trying to chop down the largest tree in the forest with a herring, nor do I condone the ignorance of the migratory flight patterns of swallows either African or European.)
Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on September 15, 2014 9:25PM4 -
Venereous44✭✭✭Cyrodiil already seems too darn big... with WAY too much running as it is. Why would you not want your horse to do that?0
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✭Venereous44 wrote: »Cyrodiil already seems too darn big... with WAY too much running as it is. Why would you not want your horse to do that?
because if we can't move fast with our armor and vampirism, nobody gets to move fast!Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
Venereous44✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Your horse runs infinitely?
Edit: (Before the Forum mods remove this and give me a warning please note: I do not condone accusing women of witchcraft or the action of burning them if they weigh the same as a duck. I also do not condone trying to chop down the largest tree in the forest with a herring, nor do I condone the ignorance of the migratory flight patterns of swallows either African or European.)
He's against shrubberies!0 -
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✭Venereous44 wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Your horse runs infinitely?
Edit: (Before the Forum mods remove this and give me a warning please note: I do not condone accusing women of witchcraft or the action of burning them if they weigh the same as a duck. I also do not condone trying to chop down the largest tree in the forest with a herring, nor do I condone the ignorance of the migratory flight patterns of swallows either African or European.)
He's against shrubberies!
Poor Roger.... he's going to be so disappointed.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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"Death will take those who fight alone."
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✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »Venereous44 wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Your horse runs infinitely?
Edit: (Before the Forum mods remove this and give me a warning please note: I do not condone accusing women of witchcraft or the action of burning them if they weigh the same as a duck. I also do not condone trying to chop down the largest tree in the forest with a herring, nor do I condone the ignorance of the migratory flight patterns of swallows either African or European.)
He's against shrubberies!
Poor Roger.... he's going to be so disappointed.
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5651839232/h8BEBF28B/
Wouldn't let me insert the pic but its cute I promise.Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on September 15, 2014 9:40PM0 -
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✭indigoblades wrote: »indigoblades wrote: »My horse runs out out of stamina but still sprints. In real life things must slow down to a jog after sprinting so this seems unrealistic. This is bugged, and should be fixed.... its not fair players mounted, can catch bolt escaping sorceress whom can not cast spells when they are out of Mania.
horses are actually jogging as they have a 2-4sec window after sprint activation with even further increased speed.
and its the perk of horses as stated by ZOS - upcomming mounts will have different perks.
Still sounds to me like a bug and not working as intended.
it's not a bug... read man.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on September 15, 2014 9:41PM1