Mograineb16_ESO wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

OP I don't actually have a problem with magelight being in the game to counter cloak. Reason being is that if it weren't, even the crappiest NB's would be practically unkillable because of their fail-safe escape in Dark Cloak. And then everyone will roll NB and all we'll be having is a huge Ambush party.

Also, usually sorcs are the ones to break me out of stealth thanks to the range on their streak stun. Now that needs to be nerfed even more after 1.4 drops. As it is right now you can stun someone infinitely with streak as the rules of CC break and CC immune don't apply to that skill for whatever reason. Other than that I see no problem with sorcs having an escape. They're squishy usually so if they weren't being pansies they would just be dead (not calling all sorc's out here. Just a lot of people I mark who are sorcs tend to run away all the time like cowards. I have come across good sorcs and have respect for them, but the ones that just blink away I shake my head). Templars and DK's have no escape so they need survivability in the form of shields/heals.

Yeah I agree with you, it would probably be too strong if you went into stealth 100%. That doesnt mean I cant dream right?

But I like how the magelight was working before the latest patch, that made them see you in cloak but not breaking cloak, so that would make it easier to get away. Maybe they thought it was too easy for nightblades to escape when it was like that and now then made it how it is right now.. who knows really.

Well see if it worked like that then it's the same as how piercing mark works where only the NB that cast it can see a person if they go into stealth. It wouldn't be hard for one person to break a NB out of stealth if the magelight worked like you say it does/should/did but I can't really say for sure how they want magelight to detect NB's. All I know is that I don't have a problem with it and just saw this thread as a QQ from someone who has no idea how to play as a NB.

1st reaction on reading OP post: LOL
2nd reaction on reading OP post: L2P

I have fought countless NB that stealth away leaving me frustrated and pissed with their cloak even though I run mages light. If you are good with deception and kiting, not even Mage light and caltrops will be able to stop your escape.

aksyong wrote: »

1st reaction on reading OP post: LOL
2nd reaction on reading OP post: L2P

I have fought countless NB that stealth away leaving me frustrated and pissed with their cloak even though I run mages light. If you are good with deception and kiting, not even Mage light and caltrops will be able to stop your escape.

Me learn to play? ill smash your face into a swollen tomato, lets meet ingame, EU haderus or thornblade, I play AD. (Unless youre a shieldstacking templar/sorc/dk with thousand hour block and massive selfheals. Then ill pass.)

Magelight doesnt save you from being killed, its your friends magelight I have a problem with, when im trying to escape from your corpse.

Tintinabula wrote: »

Invest in the invis potions that gives you 30% speed for three seconds. That combined with your speed buffed armor and maybe being a vamp plus NB buff speed skills in 3 seconds you could be so far away from whoever with a magelight it wouldn't matter.

This.

I use anywhere from 200-250 tri-stat potions a day to escape, if it is that important for you not to die then there is nothing wrong with using a potion to live.

Mograineb16_ESO wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

I play a NB and have never found magelight to be a problem.

Troll...

This whole topic is about magelight making cloak skill useless, its not if you have problems or not vs people with magelight. I killed hundreds of people who use magelight, but ive died many times also because when the *** hits the fan, cloak fails because theres 3 people running ontop of me with magelight.

Nightblade since day 1, magelight is never a problem.

You learn to not get close to prey until the time is right to kill said prey.

I also use magelight to prevent prey from sneaking up on me.

Instead of crying for a nerf to a skill that does not need a nerf, try playing careful and not GETTING UP IN THE FACE OF EVERYONE LIKE A NOOB AND TRYING TO CLOAK LITERALLY RIGHT IN THEIR FACE.

Its called movement, utilize it.

Hell yesterday I was caught in between a red and blue fight with about 20 on a side, got in, got my kill, got out, got away.

At least half of them were using magelights. Two broke off and tried to actually hunt me down, but I used LOS, terrain, and speed to outrun and outwit them.

The problem is you, you obviously suck at the class. Sorry I am so forward... actually you know what, I am not sorry, get better before you come crying for easy mode.

Also, you will never figure out how to play this class if you rely solely on "cloak" to save you.

When I pick a gank spot, even if its something adlibbed on the fly, I always mind my surrounding, little caves, rocks, crevices, fall offs, buildings. Just knowing what is around you before you ever engage will ensure your escape 99 percent of the time, I suggest you get better at reconning and setting up escape paths before you even press a button to attack.

Lets see magelight costs...
1) 5% max magicka
2) 2 skill slots for 1 skill
3)0% crit in pvp thanks to impenetrable
4)Somewhere around 6meters of stealth detection due to detection reduction.

Now lets add 1 more thing
5)only works against stealth attacks.

If you want to remove any threat of death for your class, then let BE teleport you to the wayshrine, and make GDB and blazing shield a toggle. It's only fair.

I don't even know why these toggles have to cost 2 slots in the first place. Like siphoning strikes, mage light and sorc summons. 1 skill should cost 1 skill slot, they have nothing to do with the weapon you are holding. Why does twilight matriarch leave for the nearest plane of oblivion just because it sees you with a resto staff rather than a destro staff? Why does 60% of one of the sorc lines cost 2 skill slots per skill?

Rylana wrote:

Nightblade since day 1, magelight is never a problem.

Guess you missed the change (bug) with 1.3 where Magelight started canceling cloak when you were playing thefour other toons in your sig. then...

Luvsfuzzybunnies wrote: »

Weird cause you can't have 2 instances of 1 skill on the same bar.

What he meant with magelight taking 2 skill slots is 1 on the mainweapon and 1 on the weapon switch, since you dont want magelight to be turned off in a middle of a fight if you switch weapons

Tintinabula wrote: »

Invest in the invis potions that gives you 30% speed for three seconds. That combined with your speed buffed armor and maybe being a vamp plus NB buff speed skills in 3 seconds you could be so far away from whoever with a magelight it wouldn't matter.

Yeah, this is how it would work, if magelight didnt break cloak immedietly on use. It would work basically how it works if you run with bow and the passive from bow that increase runspeed with 30% after dodge, when using that you dodge then use cloak and you get massive speed boost to get away, which works awesome, but dont work when im resto staff or dual daggers

Rylana wrote: »

The problem is you, you obviously suck at the class. Sorry I am so forward... actually you know what, I am not sorry, get better before you come crying for easy mode.

Also, you will never figure out how to play this class if you rely solely on "cloak" to save you.

Yes.. I get it, everyone thinks im a noob and cant play. But that doesnt change the fact that I dont like how magelight works, and how magelight works has no effect on if im a good or bad player. I might have come off as a tool in this thread, especially since I havent written down every encounter where magelight screwed me over in detail for you to understand my problem.

Ive already been convinced by other people that my wish is a bad idea, because the game would become broken if nightblades were given a 100% escape mechanic to perma stealth.

ohh its this hour again, where all the people come out with their deepest desires

TheBull wrote: »

Rylana wrote:

Nightblade since day 1, magelight is never a problem.

Guess you missed the change (bug) with 1.3 where Magelight started canceling cloak when you were playing thefour other toons in your sig. then...

Or does it make me a stronger player in general because I know the strengths and weaknesses of all four classes, having played them all up to and in vet level pvp?

Two sides to that perspective. And no, I didnt miss cloak changes, in fact the whole cloak thing doesnt even affect me personally because I dont even use cloak as an escape, I use cloak as a critical buff. Shadowy disguise buff. I rely on speed and terrain/knowledge to get out of tight corners more often than not, only hit the cloak button if I know I have no dots or anything else up.

Know thy class and the classes of your opponents.