Achievement Suggestion: [Master Treasure Hunter] / How to Make Treasure Maps Worthwhile

Rodario · September 2014

As we all know, the loot from treasure chests is a bit underwhelming. As a result, treasure maps are often sold for miniscule amounts or just destroyed.

Personally, I like finding treasure maps, figuring out the clues and digging up the chests. The loot is just a bonus rare temper to me.

My Suggestion

I suggest achievements tied to treasure maps be introduced.

Tracking Method

A consumable and bound trophy coin is added to the loot table of these treasure chests. Consuming the coin updates/completes the achievement. (This idea is based on the creature collectibles system and is meant as a possible solution in case just opening treasure chests is not trackable.)

Zone Achievements:

These achievements are completed by finding and opening all (non CE) treasure-map-treasures within a zone. Example below:

[Glenumbra Treasure Hunter]

- Find all treasure map locations within Glenumbra

+ 10 Achievement Points

Meta Achievement Subsets

These subsets are achieved by completing all zone achievements within an alliance's territory. Example Below:

[Covenant Treasure Hunter]

- Complete [Glenumbra Treasure Hunter]
- Complete [Stormhaven Treasure Hunter]
- ...

+ 50 Achievement Points

To increase motivation and make the ultimate goal [Master Treasure Hunter] not seem so far away, I believe in-between rewards are the way to go:

"Complete one of the achievements below"

- [Covenant Treasure Hunter]
- [Dominion Treasure Hunter]
- [Pact Treasure Hunter]

+ Uncommon Dye: [Treasure Hunter's Copper]

"Complete any two of the achievements below"

- [Covenant Treasure Hunter]
- [Dominion Treasure Hunter]
- [Pact Treasure Hunter]

+ Uncommon Dye: [Treasure Hunter's Silver]

Meta Achievement

This is achieved by completing all zone achievements and will grant a title and a rare dye:

[Master Treasure Hunter]

- Complete the "Open 1'000 treasure chests" achievement
- Complete [Covenant Treasure Hunter]
- Complete [Dominion Treasure Hunter]
- Complete [Pact Treasure Hunter]
- Complete [Coldharbour Treasure Hunter]
- Complete [Cyrodiil Treasure Hunter]

+ 50 Achievement Points
+ Title: [Master Treasure Hunter]
+ Rare Dye: [Treasure Hunter's Gold]

Much like is the case with the fishing achievement, I believe [Craglorn Treasure Hunter] should not be part of the [Master Treasure Hunter] meta achievement, but be its own achievement that awards an uncommon dye.

Why I think this would be a good idea:

If treasure map achievements are introduced...

- The incentive for hunting down treasures increases
- The market value of treasure maps shoots up
- Players will be excited about finding a treasure map
- It's an easy way to give players more to do
- It will increase the incentive to explore all alliance territories
- Treasure maps being high value items will improve immersion and atmosphere

I hope the community likes this idea and I'm very interested in hearing your opinion on it.

Thanks for reading, discuss.

{EDIT - September 12th}: Added meta achievement subsets / Added more detail.

{EDIT - September 16th}: Attempt at making the thread title more enticing.

{EDIT - November 25th}: Added a possible tracking system.

rusila22 · September 2014

Wahou i agree with you

What a great idea.^^

MissKiwiana · September 2014

I like your idea Rodario

I have been known to delete a few treasure maps especially if I am kinda involved in the questing and just need BAG SPACE!!

Seriously is 110 inventory the most space you can have?

NukaCola · September 2014

Agree 100%

Ragefist · September 2014

Very nice idea Sir, Im always glad to find in piles of rubbish on this forum a gem like the idea of yours. Its doesnt hurt anyone and improves the gameplay experience for people who enjoy exploration

dan958 · September 2014

Sounds like a great idea. All the maps are currently taking up a LOT of my bank space

Aett_Thorn · September 2014

Wish I could both agree and awesome the OP. Love the idea.

Bleakraven · September 2014

Sweet! That's awesome. And adding even more treasure maps would be great

((My far fetched dream idea: And let us bury some treasure too and create a map to give to a friend.))

Iorail · September 2014

MissKiwiana wrote: »

I like your idea Rodario

I have been known to delete a few treasure maps especially if I am kinda involved in the questing and just need BAG SPACE!!

Seriously is 110 inventory the most space you can have?

170 with max out tier 2 pack horse

Rodario · September 2014

Wow, thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you guys like the idea

Rodario · September 2014

UPDATE:

Added meta achievement subsets and more general detail.

Below is the original post for reference.

Rodario wrote: »

As we all know, the loot from treasure chests is a bit underwhelming. As a result, treasure maps are often sold for miniscule amounts or just destroyed.

Personally, I like finding treasure maps, figuring out the clues and digging up the chests. The loot is just a bonus rare temper to me.

My Suggestion

I suggest achievements tied to treasure maps be introduced.

Zone Achievements:

These achievements are completed by finding and opening all (non CE) treasure-map-treasures within a zone. Example below:

[Glenumbra Treasure Hunter]

- Find all treasure map locations within Glenumbra

+ 10 Achievement Points

Meta Achievement

This is achieved by completing all zone achievements and will grant a title and a rare dye:

[Master Treasure Hunter]

- Complete the "Open 1'000 treasure chests" achievement
- Complete [Glenumbra Treasure Hunter]
- Complete [Stormhaven Treasure Hunter]
- ...

+ 50 Achievement Points
+ Title: [Master Treasure Hunter]
+ Dye: [Treasure Hunter's Gold]

Why I think this would be a good Idea:

If treasure map achievements are introduced...

- The incentive for hunting down treasures increases
- The market value of treasure maps shoots up
- Players will be excited about finding a treasure map
- It's an easy way to give players more to do
- Treasure maps being high value items will be improve immersion and atmosphere

I hope the community likes this idea and I'm very interested in hearing your opinion on it.

Thanks for reading, discuss.

Rodario · September 2014

Bleakraven wrote: »

Sweet! That's awesome. And adding even more treasure maps would be great

((My far fetched dream idea: And let us bury some treasure too and create a map to give to a friend.))

There's lots of improvements that could still be made to treasures, inluding better/more random loot. I decided against making a list of possible changes to just focus on this one easily implementable idea I had a few minutes before.

MissKiwiana · September 2014

Oh I am also adding that I think they should also add a percentage can contain motifs in chests. Must have motifs!!!

Magdalina · September 2014

MissKiwiana wrote: »

I like your idea Rodario

I have been known to delete a few treasure maps especially if I am kinda involved in the questing and just need BAG SPACE!!

Seriously is 110 inventory the most space you can have?

Buy a horse;) I have 170 with my fat horse. 120 with the speedy one I use in Cyro. Also, bank space is a life saviour, I have 160 bank space atm.

And I agree, I LOVE treasure maps, I find it very disappointing there's no achievement or anything for them.

But then again, if they implemented it now it probably wouldn't backtrack, just like all those crafting achievements and would just screw all of us who've already found most of those treasures over since we'd have to redo them all to get the achievement we deserve>.<

spoqster · September 2014

I like this idea a lot. Have thought about something similar. Well thought through. Why don't you do a poll to see how the community feels in terms of numbers?

seanolan · September 2014

As a side note, there technically is an achievement tied to them, as they count towards the 1000 treasure chests for that achievement.

Artemiisia · September 2014

I agree as well, there aint really any incentive to go doing these map hunts anymore, the loot the chest have are mediocre and almost always leaves them behind or deconstuct them.

another way of going about this is making a special treasure map gear set, like they have on dolmens, thats actually worth collection.

Rodario · September 2014

Magdalina wrote: »

MissKiwiana wrote: »

I like your idea Rodario

I have been known to delete a few treasure maps especially if I am kinda involved in the questing and just need BAG SPACE!!

Seriously is 110 inventory the most space you can have?

Buy a horse;) I have 170 with my fat horse. 120 with the speedy one I use in Cyro. Also, bank space is a life saviour, I have 160 bank space atm.

And I agree, I LOVE treasure maps, I find it very disappointing there's no achievement or anything for them.

But then again, if they implemented it now it probably wouldn't backtrack, just like all those crafting achievements and would just screw all of us who've already found most of those treasures over since we'd have to redo them all to get the achievement we deserve>.<

I really hope they'll find a way to make it retroactive. Even if that's not possible, I'd say better late than never.

Look at it like the thieves guild or dark brotherhood. They'll most likely be implemented alongside the mages and fighter's guild quest lines, so only new players and alts will be able to take advantage fully. The rest will just have to go back and complete low level content to experience them.

It's still an addition that improves the game, so it not being retroactive should not be a reason to leave it out IMO.

GFBStarWars · September 2014

Would love this

Rodario · September 2014

spoqster wrote: »

I like this idea a lot. Have thought about something similar. Well thought through. Why don't you do a poll to see how the community feels in terms of numbers?

I'd feel like spamming if I repost this as a poll. Yes it'd probably get more attention, but so far those who care enough to comment seem to like the idea

I may need to get better at creating interesting titles for my suggestions, though I certainly won't start using titles like "What this game needs...", just to get more people to look at the thread.

Rodario · September 2014

seanolan wrote: »

As a side note, there technically is an achievement tied to them, as they count towards the 1000 treasure chests for that achievement.

Yes, well, that's not much of an incentive, is it? I did include that one in the meta achievement though.

I like to compare these suggested achievements to the existing fishing achievements. Imagine there was just one fishing achievement, called "Catch 1'000 Fish".

Rodario · September 2014

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The majority of those who care enough either way to comment seem to like this idea very much and so do I.

How do you guys feel about it?

Is there any chance this will be implemented in the future?

Thank you for any comment

Rodario · October 2014

I feel a strong urge to bump this thread one last time (promise, in case there are no new reactions) before I let it sink to the nethers.

MornaBaine · October 2014

I LOVE this idea. I also really just feel that treasure chests need to be more FUN and UNPREDICTABLE. They should have a chance of having a rare/unique costume, maybe just several thousand gold, or the occasional purple drop. There also need to be "bad" treasure chests that have a small percentage chance of turning up. One should be empty save for a note saying "Ha! Got here first!" One should be full of small spiders (can't believe I'm saying that, I HATE spiders!) that attack when you open it. One should have the cursed skeleton of the LAST treasure hunter in it that attacks you. That sort of thing. Just, really up the FUN factor.

AlexDougherty · October 2014

I have one reservation about this idea, the maps are random drops, so finding them all in the first place would be a herculean effort. It might be a good idea to have a few half way achievements, so as not to scare people off.

Like
[Grahtwood Treasure Seaker]
5/10 Treasure maps found and Completed
5 Achievement Points Rewarded

Oh, and you need to get the Achievement for finding the treasure not the map. (obviously the game only reveals the treasure if you have the map, so it's already covered)

Saucy_Jack · October 2014

First note: I'm toooootally on-board with these achievements.

Second note: ***DO NOT THROW MAPS AWAY BECAUSE I WILL TOTALLY TAKE THEM OFF YOUR HANDS FOR YOU.***

Just mail them to @Saucy_Jack in-game!

WolfingHour · October 2014

I love this idea and would like to have this implemented. Well done!

And a gold star for a clear and structured suggestion!

Sykotical · October 2014

As long as the treasure either doesn't spawn or doesn't count towards the achievement before reading the map AND read maps become bound, I think this would be an excellent addition to the game. But I think the lock picking system needs an overhaul too.

AlexDougherty · October 2014

Son_Raizen wrote: »

As long as the treasure either doesn't spawn or doesn't count towards the achievement before reading the map AND read maps become bound, I think this would be an excellent addition to the game. But I think the lock picking system needs an overhaul too.

The treasure doesn't appear unless you have the map, and the map disappears afterwards.

Sykotical · October 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Son_Raizen wrote: »

As long as the treasure either doesn't spawn or doesn't count towards the achievement before reading the map AND read maps become bound...

The treasure doesn't appear unless you have the map, and the map disappears afterwards.

Are you just rephrasing what I said or are you saying that this feature is currently in place?
I thought they were just artful renditions of common chests, so "why should I spend hours actually treasure hunting?" when I stumble upon this nearly worthless treasure every 5 minutes.

But, If the latter, then I have destroyed soo many treasure maps

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kewl · October 2014

Fantastic idea.

Professor, what's another word for pirate treasure?