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Normal people - We cant become Emperor - Ever.
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Zabus✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »Should've never had an emperor system that gives you such a distinct advantage over another player. It wouldn't matter so much if it was just the outfit because the current farmers have shown that the title doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's not even about being the top pvper, it's about who plays the most and can farm the most points. They should've put diminishing returns on alliance point gains when you keep killing the same person over and over and over and over.
There are diminishing returns on alliance point gains. Once you've killed a person a certain amount of times he/she is hardly worth points. If that person manages to kill you, it resets and you start getting full points again. Tested it in 1.2
Zavus - Khajiit Nightblade EP | AR 50
Zāv - Imperial Templar | AR 24
Zavbags - Argonian Nightblade EP | AR 19
Zabus - Redguard Nightblade DC | AR 13
Negate Three - Breton Sorcerer EP | AR 191 -
Pseudonym✭✭✭As an avid achievement hunter, this achievement is bugging me. I don't want to be Emperor for the title, the skills, the dye or the costume; I simply want the achievement.
It's somethings I doubt I'll ever get, but let me tell you this; if I ever lose my job, I'll give it my best shot!0 -
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Or, they inherit the post from Mumsy and Daddeeeeeee...Life is not fair. Neither are games. That is just the way it is. Normal people don't become President or CEO of major corporations either. The ones that do, work 24/7
Edited by milesrodneymcneely2_ESO on September 12, 2014 11:58PM2 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭Should have farmed and exploited before 1.3 like the majority of commenters at the beginning of this thread. Funny. Same people probably grinded anomolies and think they earned V12. Same people who grinded anomolies probably complained about VR nerf. They didn't want things to be "too easy" after they "earned" it the hard way.
This game doesn't reward people who legitimately play it. Enjoy.
Edit: Somebody reported me for using the word '"scumbag" They apparantly fall in this category of players and were offended.
Edited by david271749 on September 14, 2014 1:09AM4 -
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✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Why is it so important for you to become an Emperor? Its only a title and a color, not really something important.
What matters are your achievements in RL try to accomplish your dreams there and not in a silly game
Wow, I am really off-put by this comment. Achievements in a game can also mean an achievement in real life to some people. Especially people who are in hospital beds right now and this game is all they have left to do.bluesodafizz wrote: »
Wow, I am really off-put by this comment. Achievements in a game can also mean an achievement in real life to some people. Especially people who are in hospital beds right now and this game is all they have left to do.
This is true. Some might call being a chess grand master or a poker champion silly because they're just games, but to some people it really means a lot.
Are you honestly comparing professional sports like Chess or Poker with becoming Emperor?
Please don't I mean WOW that would be really sad
bluesodafizz wrote: »Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Why is it so important for you to become an Emperor? Its only a title and a color, not really something important.
What matters are your achievements in RL try to accomplish your dreams there and not in a silly game
Wow, I am really off-put by this comment. Achievements in a game can also mean an achievement in real life to some people. Especially people who are in hospital beds right now and this game is all they have left to do.
If someone is in Hospital then he or she should try to get out of there instead of playing games.
No offence but seriously guys what is wrong with you?3 -
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✭The Emperor brings power to the table for your faction. Why, if you want to win your Campaign, would you want to be Emperor if you weren't going to be on the most? Sounds selfish
It should go to the person in your faction who intends to be online the most.4 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭I don't see the problem here really OP if you want something real bad you need to put in effort just like in real life.
I'm mean that is mmo is all aboput if want something you need to put effort why should we get everything hand in gold plate i'm some what tried off people that play mmo that is ask for get everything for free with out put in some effort just look at Blizzard answer to people that ask get very thing free now days in WoW if don't wear epic gear you are bad player.If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity1 -
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@morvegil True story, bro! I've thinking about creating a topic about this. This is MMO and you cant become emperor alone - OK, fine. But now this system rewards those, who spent all time in game, but not those, who plays well.Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!2 -
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✭✭✭✭I'm never going to be emperor - I mostly do PvE, and I belong to fun guilds rather than hardcore guilds, because that's what suits me.
You won't ever see me complaining that I won't be emperor though, it's really unimportant, and I have never understood why some people feel a need to get every achievement and do everything - if you can't dedicate enough time because you have a job and a family, thank your lucky stars for the real things you have, and stop fretting that you cannot put in as much time as player x to get some daft title and skill line in a game.
Not in favour of making emperor title easier to get, I don't understand why some folks think everyone should get it.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
Epona was a Romano-Celtic goddess dating back to around 1800 to 2000 years before computer games were invented.2 -
Drachenmutter✭✭✭The complete Emperor is for the stuff, like i said before monts. If you dont have a dealable solution with normal players, so the line is broken. This game goes down because of that and its true.
In DAoC to Grandpa, you had the rr-rankings, nobody was against it because at first it was a hard way to get it completly trough, but until that it gaves rr1, rr2, rr3, maybe Matt you will remember.
Best solution is not allways the small way of thinking. The old thinkers thought, write well and good, but keep your writings small. They will understand it more than phrases of thinking.Edited by Drachenmutter on September 13, 2014 8:03AM0 -
BloodStorm✭✭✭So you want to suffer from depression and be miserable??? Normal people don't play video games all day, everyday. People with antisocial sociopathic tendencies do that. Anyone who says different is lying to you. I probably would be emperor if I liked ESO pvp but I prefer open world pvp so I avoid that zergfest.. Cant wait for player bounties. Plan on killing townsfolk as a vampire. Might even only kill at night for that midnight drain morph that nobody uses. Great emergency heal/stun before fading into the shadows.Edited by BloodStorm on September 13, 2014 7:51AM3
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✭✭✭✭DagothMacellarius wrote: »So you want to suffer from depression and be miserable??? Normal people don't play video games all day, everyday. People with antisocial sociopathic tendencies do that. Anyone who says different is lying to you.
Wow, way to turn this thread into a complete character assassination on anyone who may have some free time on their hands. Sociopathic tendencies? Really? Sounds like something a cheap tabloid would come up with for a dubious "news item".GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
Epona was a Romano-Celtic goddess dating back to around 1800 to 2000 years before computer games were invented.3 -
BloodStorm✭✭✭
Hey now!!Haha. I was refering to myself as well. Lets not stray from the topic!DagothMacellarius wrote: »So you want to suffer from depression and be miserable??? Normal people don't play video games all day, everyday. People with antisocial sociopathic tendencies do that. Anyone who says different is lying to you.
Wow, way to turn this thread into a complete character assassination on anyone who may have some free time on their hands. Sociopathic tendencies? Really? Sounds like something a cheap tabloid would come up with for a dubious "news item".
Edited by BloodStorm on September 13, 2014 7:54AM1 -
Iago✭✭✭✭✭DagothMacellarius wrote: »So you want to suffer from depression and be miserable??? Normal people don't play video games all day, everyday. People with antisocial sociopathic tendencies do that. Anyone who says different is lying to you. I probably would be emperor if I liked ESO pvp but I prefer open world pvp so I avoid that zergfest.. Cant wait for player bounties. Plan on killing townsfolk as a vampire. Might even only kill at night for that midnight drain morph that nobody uses. Great emergency heal/stun before fading into the shadows.
most sociopaths are fairly sociable the great majority of them go through life unnoticed. A lack of emotion does not make a person depressed or antisocial.
That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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✭✭There's no way for the majority of people to become the president of the USA either...4 -
BloodStorm✭✭✭
sociopaths do often feel emotion. Just selfish emotion. Like you said lack of, not non existant. Nothing is black and white for the most part and the post was partly joking. I put antisocial first for a reason as well. Don't lie to me and say you didn't laugh.DagothMacellarius wrote: »So you want to suffer from depression and be miserable??? Normal people don't play video games all day, everyday. People with antisocial sociopathic tendencies do that. Anyone who says different is lying to you. I probably would be emperor if I liked ESO pvp but I prefer open world pvp so I avoid that zergfest.. Cant wait for player bounties. Plan on killing townsfolk as a vampire. Might even only kill at night for that midnight drain morph that nobody uses. Great emergency heal/stun before fading into the shadows.
most sociopaths are fairly sociable the great majority of them go through life unnoticed. A lack of emotion does not make a person depressed or antisocial.
Edited by BloodStorm on September 13, 2014 8:18AM1 -
i would like the system, to reset your AP score for next election, if you become emperor
then it wouldnt be the same guy getting the title again and again, but it would still be a title that is hard to get0 -
AreoHotah✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »MornaBaine wrote: »I'm only grumpy about it because I'll never have that awesome shade of red dye! LOL Could really care less about anything else regarding it! But I kind of agree with the person who pointed out that there's nothing comparable on the PvE side of things. And there really should be.
It's pretty much identical to the daedric red you get for killing the daedric generals. Found this out when I had the glitch that gave me the emperor red for that first week. And the daedric red has more prestige to it because damn that RNG on farming those generals, haha. Daedric red shows you really put some effort into it.
@Arsenic_Touch do the generals spawn at under vr dolmens as well??
On topic : Im the emperor in my family cuz you know I have a life. More than enough for me...
Edited by AreoHotah on September 13, 2014 9:01AMHota'h, Dual-wield/bow full medium armor NB Khajiit from day 1.
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ArconSeptim✭✭✭✭Well just as I said long long before since beta, remove damn Emperor title from the game and give it to NPC Alliance leaders...0
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Drachenmutter✭✭✭If a geme payes himself for great members as a shelf therapie, you can trough it awyay. Believe me, the less Solution is allways the first oft the lesson.
Make it unforgetable: No tipps, this is your part at least.
The second level is:
Prepared for kritics and unacceptable cccp`s! *laughs*
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Horrum✭✭✭Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Honestly, I don't play 24/7 but I agree that those who invest the most time and effort in the AvA war should become Emperor. I mean... it's Emperor. I would prefer to have an Emperor who is very active (in PvP) rather than someone who only logs in every 3 days.
As for Emperor farming... that is a seperate issue.Edited by Horrum on September 13, 2014 9:04AM1 -
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✭Current system how emperorship is gained is BS. Farming AP and camping for def tick doesn't mean that you're a good player deserve to be emperor. And what's the point of emperor who's sits all day on keep walls or bat farms AP at resources?
There are players who organize attacks, keep defenses but don't care about AP farming and in ranking aren't even close to become emperors although they deserve it.
I think emperor should be someone who have support from other players not biggest grinder.
(AP(place in ranking?) + number of supporters(certain AP requirement and rank ))= Emperor?Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!3 -
Normal? Do you mean average? As in time they can or do dedicate to the game?0
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Drachenmutter✭✭✭The emperor was a [snip] idear like it comes trough in other games, like an asian one i forgot the name. "rift". This is a strange part of non stisfaction for those, who can not play 24/7, but it is knew by the devloppers,so what do the have know, ask your Gods! I knew it!
The long thinking of the greatness long player solution with money in their head as thinkig faktor.
All other social thinking is against this, also this is known by your master developper.
So what is the theorie of him!? To create 24/ 7 monsters or to do his job. He is out of it, be shoure of that! Like R. Garriot as he flys to the moon. With respect, some should have some pain in the back, for their liieings! I hope you give them back!
In german its called: The farmer gets always back what he is given out as ... .
Leave him some Bananas, and eggs on the podest at the next presentation. This *blender* must be stopped.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_JanS on September 13, 2014 3:41PM2 -
JoffyToffy69✭✭✭✭I think Emp should reset when the campaign resets too. That would allow people more of a chance. But it does take ALOT of time,dedication and effort to stay top of the leader board and get emp.
I was the first AD emp on my campaign, which was dominated by DC then EP. we couldn't even take any keeps. This was just before emp farming became a thing.
Since it was a 90 day campaign, I had done nothing but pvp from launch.
The exp gain for pvp then was sad. I lead many groups, took as many resources as I could before getting violated by other zergs.
By the time more pvp active players joined the campaign they were vr10 (max lvl then) and I was only lvl36!
I had to do a few over nighters just to stay ahead.
The AD guild which came and dominated my campaign where nice though, and let me join their groups even though I wasn't max lvl. I could kick but well
Luckily, the guy who was second (and constantly getting ahead of me) new that I had been dedicated to the campaign, and he instructed his guild mates to help me get the emp title, and not him, since he felt I deserved it most for all my hard work.
I think I cried when I got it. It was such an achievement.
However, just over a day later, I was over thrown.
Turns out my campaign became a temp emp farm. I was unsure what was going on, I wasn't mad, just confused.
Then I was explained that it was about sharing, and I was ok with this. I was excited to have the outfit haha....
Turns out former emps can't wear the outfit
From then on emp farming ruined the reputation for genuine emps.
I don't blame anyone, not the farmers or ZOS. There should have been more campaigns which where shorter and allowed people a chance.
However, I preferred the 90 days. It was longer and gave people more time. with the short 7 day campaigns, people don't bother, and just try really hard shortly after reset, and if they don't make it, meh, just wait till next week.
People complain about emp, but I think it is good to have something exclusive.
You might say farmers ruined the 'exclusiveness', and to an extent, yes. But it does take alot of work to get it. Elite guilds are full of former emps, but they work really well and effectively, by far superior to the casual gamer.
Elite players should be able to obtain something higher then the casual.
Alot of people can't accept they simply aren't the best, or not even 'good'.
(sorry for the rant, I'm tired haha)Fun comes from diversity, balance kills diversity.
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guybrushtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Drachenmutter wrote: »The emperor was a [snip] idear like it comes trough in other games, like an asian one i forgot the name. "rift". This is a strange part of non stisfaction for those, who can not play 24/7, but it is knew by the devloppers,so what do the have know, ask your Gods! I knew it!
The long thinking of the greatness long player solution with money in their head as thinkig faktor.
All other social thinking is against this, also this is known by your master developper.
So what is the theorie of him!? To create 24/ 7 monsters or to do his job. He is out of it, be shoure of that! Like R. Garriot as he flys to the moon. With respect, some should have some pain in the back, for their liieings! I hope you give them back!
In german its called: The farmer gets always back what he is given out as ... .
Leave him some Bananas, and eggs on the podest at the next presentation. This *blender* must be stopped.
I didn't think I'd ever say that, but you should probably try google translator.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_JanS on September 13, 2014 3:42PM5 -
TRIP233✭✭✭Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
There is one thing that comes to mind.. The devs had it right with getting the Warlord Achievement. Everyone of the achievements in PvP should be attainable that way including Emperor.
With the new update to Cyrodiil with the Imperial City coming out; that can be the reason to get the 6 forts surrounding the Imperial City. It will allow normal people a chance at actually getting the Emperor Achievement and giving a reason for the 6 forts.0 -
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Crack on and make your own game where everyone is an Emperor then..........
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