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Normal people - We cant become Emperor - Ever.
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✭I agree op, but there has been so many emperor swapping campaigns to the point the title of Emperor, pretty much means nothing, it's all for the buffs which is sad, but yes to get emperor by legit methods, I never see myself getting it and I am ok with that.
There are ways to increase your chances one is being in a good active and organized pvp guild, but how some of those guys had 8 million plus points at the end of the 30 day campaign was like wow do these guys ever sleep LOL -
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✭The Emperor brings power to the table for your faction. Why, if you want to win your Campaign, would you want to be Emperor if you weren't going to be on the most? Sounds selfish
It should go to the person in your faction who intends to be online the most.
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✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »...but how some of those guys had 8 million plus points at the end of the 30 day campaign was like wow do these guys ever sleep LOL
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✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Nice. How would you suggest coming up with a system that doesn't place time spent as the most important variable? Even if it were based on objectives taken, it would still be about who had the time to sit there and take the objectives all day.
*shrug* Easy. Slap a "/per hour" to every metric used.
That said, I don't particularly have a problem with people who play longer having a significant advantage, and slapping a "per hour" on would actually tend to penalize people that play longer, as you'll have periods of time where you're just fooling around, or nobody is there to fight, etc. going against you.
Probably the best would be something along the lines of using your highest scoring 2 hours of play per day (or 14 hours per week), or something like that. Would give players who play more an advantage, as they have less odds of a slow hour hurting their score, as they'd have more hours to make it up, but a good player only on for a couple hours per day that can simply always get good scores for the time he's on, would still be competitive.
This would make it a lot easier to cheat/exploit your way to Emp. Instead of cheating for the entire duration of the campaign, you only need to cheat/exploit for 2 hours a day. "Hey, you farm us for two hours, and then we'll farm you for two hours."
That said, your suggestion is better than anything else I've seen. It comes with it's own problems, but I would definitely play on a campaign that uses this system.
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CreepySpydre✭✭My thoughts is why?... I mean the idea is good for just the pvp award thing. But not a very good idea story wise. Just think, you are one of the leaders of the 3 factions, and some nit -wit usurps you by becoming Emperor. You would revoke all support, and pretty much brand the new Emperor/ess a traitor. Thus the new Emperor/ess has all 3 faction after their hide. Now that would be something to see
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OrcLadySoul Shriven
You clearly need to hire better people ...Too often, I've seen folks whine and gripe about their superiors who get more money than they do. Yet, nine times out of ten, when I then offer advancement, those same whiners don't want the extra responsibility, effort, and time the greater position requires.
Yeah, cuz its so easy to find people who want to work
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You clearly need to hire better people ...Too often, I've seen folks whine and gripe about their superiors who get more money than they do. Yet, nine times out of ten, when I then offer advancement, those same whiners don't want the extra responsibility, effort, and time the greater position requires.
Yeah, cuz its so easy to find people who want to work
.... 20 years ago.
Yep. Most in the newer generation seem to be all about filling positions, vice actually working for a living.
There are exceptions of course, but they're rare.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Greatfellow✭✭✭
In RL hardly anyone becomes an emperor either. I have no problem with that. In this game the Emperor title is so tainted I wouldn't want to display it.Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
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NakedSnake✭✭✭Life is not fair. Neither are games. That is just the way it is. Normal people don't become President or CEO of major corporations either. The ones that do, work 24/7
Well said. If only developers could figure this out. Maybe then they could start squeezing out proper games again."Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?" -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭david271749 wrote: »Should have farmed and exploited before 1.3 like the majority of commenters at the beginning of this thread. Funny. Same people probably grinded anomolies and think they earned V12. Same people who grinded anomolies probably complained about VR nerf. They didn't want things to be "too easy" after they "earned" it the hard way.
This game doesn't reward people who legitimately play it. Enjoy.
Edit: Somebody reported me for using the word '"scumbag" They apparantly fall in this category of players and were offended.
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✭✭NakedSnake wrote: »
Different people have different definitions of proper games, I personally don't want them too hard, I want to enjoy myself.
I remember a period (about eight or ten years) were developers (with a few exceptions) just wanted to make the toughest games possible, no consideration for fun at all. At the minute I'm having a ball, I can actually enjoy games, and not be exposed to a constant grindfest of tougher and tougher games.
That said, I do find the vision behind the games has become too diluted, with the developers trying to please everyone. But that's preferable to me than games I can't actually play.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Luvsfuzzybunnies✭✭✭Drachenmutter wrote: »The complete Emperor is for the stuff, like i said before monts. If you dont have a dealable solution with normal players, so the line is broken. This game goes down because of that and its true.
In DAoC to Grandpa, you had the rr-rankings, nobody was against it because at first it was a hard way to get it completly trough, but until that it gaves rr1, rr2, rr3, maybe Matt you will remember.
Best solution is not allways the small way of thinking. The old thinkers thought, write well and good, but keep your writings small. They will understand it more than phrases of thinking.
Sorry I didn't understand this i think there is a point in there somewhere but I can't find it.Jukette VR12 DC Nightblade 14 day campaign.
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bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭to quote myself from another topicbertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »
I dont think you did. Thats what you do when you compete and want to win. You put effort into it.
If you want to win based on pure luck, play bingo?
well I work and have already concluded I will never get it, since no lifers can play almost 24/7, I dont.
emperorship is based on time played and points farmed, not on skill thats the issue with it, if there would be some sort of skill-meter implemented (like for instance was in Bad Company 2 leaderboards, only the best player could have rank 1, then maybe 10 people could be rank 2, a 100 rank 3, and so on, and the ranks were awarded on your performance, if you had a good day you could climb a few ranks, if you had a bad day drop some, it had nothing to do with time played or pointfarming, like it is in eso) then the rightfull person would be crowned emp, not just the nolifers
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KenjiJU✭✭✭My only real gripe about Emperor is that there will always be a little lock icon on one of my dyes. For the mass market of achievement-ponies, I think many will throw oats in rage. Though most aren't going to get all those vet dungeon achievements either, so I guess it's not that big of a deal. -
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✭✭✭✭Well, since this thread got necroed I'll just reply to it:
You do not need to play "24/7" to become Emperor. Even a few hours after a campaign reset is enough if you have a good group and/or are a skilled player.
If you aren't a skilled player and/or can't put any enough effort in becoming one, then why should you become an Emperor? -
Kego✭✭✭✭I don't like the current system, too.
I don`t want a Emperor that is a coward that just uses a lot of time and methods that gives the most AP.
There for, the 10 Top Ten AP gainer should:
a) Perform a tornament where the winner will be emperor, cause he is the strongest of his faction.
b) The emperor is chosen by vote from all players of his faction. Like the Top 10 are up to vote and you have 1 day to place it.
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c) ZOS brings in the PvP Arena with 3v3v3. ELO System. The winner team of the Arena Season can promote one that will be Emperor, the other two becoming the Emperor Officers, granted half of the power an Emperor gets.
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Arsenic_Touch✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, since this thread got necroed I'll just reply to it:
You do not need to play "24/7" to become Emperor. Even a few hours after a campaign reset is enough if you have a good group and/or are a skilled player.
If you aren't a skilled player and/or can't put any enough effort in becoming one, then why should you become an Emperor?
If it was actually about skill, you would have a point. But since it's not, you're just flapping your lips for no reason.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »Well, since this thread got necroed I'll just reply to it:
You do not need to play "24/7" to become Emperor. Even a few hours after a campaign reset is enough if you have a good group and/or are a skilled player.
If you aren't a skilled player and/or can't put any enough effort in becoming one, then why should you become an Emperor?
If it was actually about skill, you would have a point. But since it's not, you're just flapping your lips for no reason.
Well, it's about farming as much AP as possible. Not necessarily about skill, but not about "playing 24/7" either. Basically any player has a chance to become emperor after campaign resets (once a week, twice a week or once a month depending on your campaign), that's the point I wanted to drive through.
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The mistake we all made is that we did not join in on all the emperor farming shenanigans while they were rampant. Now that the servers are reduced and 3 servers must remain sequestered for each alliances buff server there is no more room for blatant emperor farming.
The window to achieve emperor by ruse is now closed. We lost by choosing to go against it and preserve PvP game integrity. We were idealistic fools. The winners of this game seem to be those who take advantage of every exploit available before its fixed. Apparently the losers are the ones who believe that an ostensible code of conduct exists and so do not take wholesale advantage of game flaws.Edited by Armitas on September 26, 2014 2:33PMRetired.
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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You clearly need to hire better people ...Too often, I've seen folks whine and gripe about their superiors who get more money than they do. Yet, nine times out of ten, when I then offer advancement, those same whiners don't want the extra responsibility, effort, and time the greater position requires.
Yeah, cuz its so easy to find people who want to work
.... 20 years ago.
Yep. Most in the newer generation seem to be all about filling positions, vice actually working for a living.
There are exceptions of course, but they're rare.
It's funny because the "older" generations got paid more, had more stable jobs, weren't mired down in the kind of debt this generation is, didn't work as hard for what they got, etc etc.
I love the whole "kids these days" argument when the older generations trashed the country and left it as it is now for gen x and the millenials.
Must be nice to know you'll get SS at some point, since the current generations will mostly be dead before that happens.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them. -
r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭People still complaining over this? Just so you know, emperor was never intended for everyone. You can have everything else, get over it.Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
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Tulerezzer✭✭When I witnessed "Emperor Swapping" I lost all respect for the title.
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✭✭✭✭✭There is an Emperor in the game? I ask this tongue in cheek as that is how much I pay attention to the Emperor.
Other than joining a campaign where my alliance has the emperor, then I get the bonus for it in PvEEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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✭@OP
You can't always get what you want. If you want to earn the top titles and achievements you have to put the time in. If you can't...so sorry.
I play a ****ton and I will likely never be Emperor. I could kind of care less about the title. As Is I think it's too easy to get and there are way too many "former" emperors, thanks to dumb PvP Emperor Flipping system. Even so not going to whine about not getting emperor. If I want it bad enough I'll play for the AP and push for it.
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭True us normal players who like to have fun with the game may never become emperor but here's a question. What is a emperor with out a empire? With so many players wanting to be emperor there is no one for he/she to lead once he/she sits on the ruby throne. Why I happily accepted my role as the soldier not the emperor and will gladly follow the emperor/empress ... as long as they know what there doing and are not total idiot emperor [error] who only wants the buffs and shiny armor.
