Normal people - We cant become Emperor - Ever.

Xsorus · September 2014

morvegil wrote: »

Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.

I won't ever be emperor, nor am I going to emperor trade for it..

and i'm fine with that.

Arsenic_Touch · September 2014

MornaBaine wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

I'm only grumpy about it because I'll never have that awesome shade of red dye! LOL Could really care less about anything else regarding it! But I kind of agree with the person who pointed out that there's nothing comparable on the PvE side of things. And there really should be.

It's pretty much identical to the daedric red you get for killing the daedric generals. Found this out when I had the glitch that gave me the emperor red for that first week. And the daedric red has more prestige to it because damn that RNG on farming those generals, haha. Daedric red shows you really put some effort into it.

Daedric generals? Is that a quest or a dungeon? Which one?

Achievement. There are daedric bosses that spawn at the dolmens occasionally. All the veteran zones can spawn all of them and the regular zones can spawn a specific set.

http://tamrieljournal.com/eso-general-executioner-daedric-red-dye-guide/

It's also clear quite a few people in this thread didn't actually read the OP. This has nothing to do with people wanting the emperor for free. Pay attention folks.

Ifthir_ESO · September 2014

Syndy wrote: »

I disagree.

If a person puts in more time and plays more, he/she should be rewarded with emperor.

I disagree with you. The rewards should reflect who has the most skilled play, not who has the most time to play.

Drazhar14 · September 2014

One must dedicate their life to ESO to become an emperor. After all, if you aren't on 24/7 to oversee every activity in Tamriel, you wont be doing your job!

Thechemicals · September 2014

A guild helps its players get emp. That is how it is done.

Maverick827 · September 2014

The Emperor system should only ever have amounted to a costume. Giving it added stats, that affect PvE no less, is an incredibly poor choice.

jrgray93 · September 2014

apostate9 wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

Samwell Slayer wrote: »

Some people like Lfehova/Hova/Hovaling have made 3 nearly identical toons (all bat/scale spaming DK's in DC) and have gotten emp with all three for combined times of almost two months.

If you're lucky and have a day off from work when a campaign resets you can get emp. Just get to the top of the leader boards that day and get lucky enough that your faction flips the boards in the time span.

I got my emp kill achievement on him. he's my dead bro for life now, whether he knows it or not.

I capped him twice yesterday with a group of like 5 pugs.

I actually participated in no less than 10 killings of him before I actually got the killing blow for the achievement. Needless to say, I was not a happy camper from the first time we killed him and I learned it was KB only, to the point when I actually got the killing blow. I got the achievement thanks to a suggestion from fellow EP player, Miss Charm, to hit him with a resto staff heavy. Basically, it was a 40 or so player battle in destroyed postern wall. I locked in on the emp and focused my attention on him entirely, doing a great deal of damage to him over a period of 2-3 minutes, until I saw him drop low enough and I layered some DoTs and hit the staff. It was exciting!

OrangeTheCat · September 2014

morvegil wrote: »

Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.

I am one of those "normal" people. I always knew I could never be Emperor; I'd rather make a living, support my family, gain self-respect, and earn the respect of my colleagues than "winning" at some video game which is meaningless. That's just the way it is. Getting Emperorship should not be made easier; if anything, it should be made much harder.

tordr86b16_ESO · September 2014

morvegil wrote: »

Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.

I know it sucks, but making Emperor status too easy to get so that every average joe can get it with minimal effort would look really bad.

Samwell Slayer · September 2014

DaniAngione wrote: »

If I had the utmost über power to change the world, I would make it so:

Whenever the 6 keeps are taken (and imperial city, maybe, eventually... If it gets attached to the throne war (which it should, IMO)) everyone from that faction CURRENTLY IN CYRODIIL (and in that campaign, of course) gets a 'popup' notification to "show their support" for the eligible emperors.

Eligible emperors are the 10 top AP scores that PARTICIPATED on the battle that took the last keep/imperial city + the top 10 scores from that battle (so the top 10 people that "fought" the battle even if their overall score is not that great).

Like when a king takes land and the generals/nobles "show their support" to whom they think should these lands be granted.

Ok, might not be a good formula, I just threw some random numbers - but I suppose you all get the IDEA; which basically is: give a chance to people that contribute a lot/might lead/raise a big effort (raid, etc) to be emperor regardless of the overall AP score.

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By the way, something similar should be done with keeps as well, the first come, first serve logic to claim them is rather stupid.

Any sort of 'popularity contest' is a bad idea IMO.

SirAndy · September 2014

WebBull wrote: »

Normal people don't become President or CEO of major corporations either. The ones that do, work 24/7

Or were born with more money than brains and never had to work for anything in their life.

I actually know a few people that fit that bill ...

ThePonzzz · September 2014

I am Spartacus.

GnatB · September 2014

First, let me just say that I don't PvP. At all.
Second, from the sound of it, they seriously misimplemented it.

1. The method of becoming Emperor seems fubar. Straight up "AP" sounds silly. I like the one persons idea of having a vote when the final keep falls, with the top 10 present being candidates. (Or, possibly a vote when each keep falls, with whomever "wins" the most keeps becoming emperor?)
2. The rewards are fubar. I'm fine with the title and mostly fine with the dye since it isn't all that different from others, but I'm unconvinced there should have even been a skill line at all. There *definitely* shouldn't have been a skill line of massive self buffs passives. If they really wanted a skill line, then it should have consisted entirely of "commandlike" abilities. (And I'd assume they're only applicable in PvP? If not they should have been.) i.e. passive skills that give everybody AROUND them bonuses, but NOT them themselves. Preferably with a large enough radius that everybody on the emperors faction involved in an attack/defense gets the benefits. Oh, and make the passive somehow charge up over time, and lose all charges when the emperor is killed. So keeping your emperor alive overs significant advantages... (of course, the radius shouldn't be so large then that the emperor can just sit back in safety conferring the bonus)

So, you'd want to pick a "team player" as emperor, somebody who'll put skill points into something that doesn't directly help themselves, but instead helps out his team. You'll also want to pick somebody who is actually online participating in the fights, as otherwise the bonuses are wasted.

Chuggernaut · September 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8I9pYCl9AQ

Raiborn · September 2014

Your title is self explanatory.

To be an Emperor is to not be one of the 'normal' people

There is no such thing as an Emperor that is a 'normal person'.

'Former-Emperors' are a whole different matter... they're like Denethor at the end of the Lord of the Rings, and their theme song should be Viva La Vida by Coldplay. How does it feel to be more than 'normal' but less than Emperor? So strange. I guess they're like Dukes or Barons or something? Or just washed up...

Having middle ranks (like Dukes/Barons/Princes/Knights) would be pretty sweet too. How would you like to be the Prince of Bruma? Or the Baron of Fort Ash? Or the Knight of Nickel? Or the Lord of Blue Road Keep? These could make for a pretty cool system... and add more roles for the 'normal' people to ascend to

NadiusMaximus · September 2014

Only way now is to go off site and hire some Korean kid to play for you day and night. Sorry but it is a fact.

SirAndy · September 2014

Raiborn wrote: »

Having middle ranks (like Dukes/Barons/Princes/Knights) would be pretty sweet too. How would you like to be the Prince of Bruma? Or the Baron of Fort Ash? Or the Knight of Nickel? Or the Lord of Blue Road Keep? These could make for a pretty cool system... and add more roles for the 'normal' people to ascend to

I like that idea!

SirAndy, Lord of Blue Road Keep

would make for a nice plaque on my trophy wall ...

PBpsy · September 2014

bluesodafizz wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

bluesodafizz wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

bluesodafizz wrote: »

I am disappointed that I will never be Emperor, but I understand why I can't be since I don't ever do PvP. I do, however, think it would make things more fair if there was a similar prestige title for those of us who prefer PvE. Right now I don't feel like I have any PvE titles that a PvP player couldn't just grab in a day or two.

If anyone agrees with me, can you think of any comparable titles that this could be? And what would be the requirements to get it? (Just off of the top of my head I thought of Diplomat of the Throne, Barons and Baronesses...though I suppose it would only be Barons because there are no Empresses in PvP lolz).

- Saviour of Nirn
- Daedric Lord Slayer
- Monster Hunter
- Tamriel Hero
- Explorer

Don't you have to do PvP stuff to get a few of those titles?

You have to go into Cyrodiil to do PvE but you are not required to do any PvP for them.

If you're going to spend enough time in Cryodill to get those achievements, it's very unlikely you wont get into battle with another player, so I don't count that as non PvP.

At the moment it is not that unlikely to not encounter anyone if you try to be stealthy. Most of us have done their achievements so they do not hang out in caves and towns.I have stayed about 45 minutes in a town doing quests last week and there was no one there. In the begging there was some pvp in town and caves now they are mostly deserted since the influx of skyshard hunters is gone. Also due to the camp system most people are concentrated near keeps so not much traffic between keeps either.

GreySix · September 2014

WebBull wrote: »

Life is not fair. Neither are games. That is just the way it is. Normal people don't become President or CEO of major corporations either. The ones that do, work 24/7

Outstanding assessment. Too often, I've seen folks whine and gripe about their superiors who get more money than they do. Yet, nine times out of ten, when I then offer advancement, those same whiners don't want the extra responsibility, effort, and time the greater position requires.

purple-magicb16_ESO · September 2014

Lol! IMO it's a contest to see who's the least employed! XD

SirAndy · September 2014

GreySix wrote: »

Too often, I've seen folks whine and gripe about their superiors who get more money than they do. Yet, nine times out of ten, when I then offer advancement, those same whiners don't want the extra responsibility, effort, and time the greater position requires.

You clearly need to hire better people ...

jelliedsoup · September 2014

I accept this fact, it's more that the number of emps due to emp farming makes it unfair. But what ya gonna do?

Evergnar · September 2014

Try an alt in the non vet campaign. Personally I like things in game that only a select few will achieve. There's enough stuff in game already that anybody can do.

riverdragon72 · September 2014

As a guildie suggested how PVE should have ended is a battle defeating opposing factions for your respective faction through Cyrodiil, then the Imperial City,and finally battling Molag Baal. Then everyone could have been "Emperor" through PVE.

Keep the PVP as it's own entity and whatever content may go along with that.

dodgehopper_ESO · September 2014

The main thing I don't like about this thread, is the way people are being rather insulting toward people who have attained Emperor. Either you are attempting to diminish their achievements or insult their capacity to have a good/real life. Have you considered these people might be retired, injured, or simply play the game like an intense hobby and still manage to have a real and productive life? I just don't like the polemic nature that people are tossing around here. Its fine you don't like the system, I can deal with that, but don't insult people you know nothing about. I say this as someone who hasn't achieved Emperor as well.

timidobserver · September 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Syndy wrote: »

I disagree.

If a person puts in more time and plays more, he/she should be rewarded with emperor.

I disagree with you. The rewards should reflect who has the most skilled play, not who has the most time to play.

Nice. How would you suggest coming up with a system that doesn't place time spent as the most important variable? Even if it were based on objectives taken, it would still be about who had the time to sit there and take the objectives all day.

Circuitous · September 2014

Wow. A lot of you are incredibly condescending over something you pretend to consider pointless. Good thing you've got your priorities in order!

Lionxoft · September 2014

Samwell Slayer wrote: »

Some people like Lfehova/Hova/Hovaling have made 3 nearly identical toons (all bat/scale spaming DK's in DC) and have gotten emp with all three for combined times of almost two months.

If you're lucky and have a day off from work when a campaign resets you can get emp. Just get to the top of the leader boards that day and get lucky enough that your faction flips the boards in the time span.

Emperor farming/trading. Nuff said.

GnatB · September 2014

timidobserver wrote: »

Nice. How would you suggest coming up with a system that doesn't place time spent as the most important variable? Even if it were based on objectives taken, it would still be about who had the time to sit there and take the objectives all day.

*shrug* Easy. Slap a "/per hour" to every metric used.

That said, I don't particularly have a problem with people who play longer having a significant advantage, and slapping a "per hour" on would actually tend to penalize people that play longer, as you'll have periods of time where you're just fooling around, or nobody is there to fight, etc. going against you.

Probably the best would be something along the lines of using your highest scoring 2 hours of play per day (or 14 hours per week), or something like that. Would give players who play more an advantage, as they have less odds of a slow hour hurting their score, as they'd have more hours to make it up, but a good player only on for a couple hours per day that can simply always get good scores for the time he's on, would still be competitive.

pinkempyreal · September 2014

I don't care for the title or the perks... But I am sad it is an achievement I will never earn. I'd like to eventually unlock all the achievos I can and this will be one I would never have the time to try for. Oh well.