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Normal people - We cant become Emperor - Ever.
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AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »I am disappointed that I will never be Emperor, but I understand why I can't be since I don't ever do PvP. I do, however, think it would make things more fair if there was a similar prestige title for those of us who prefer PvE. Right now I don't feel like I have any PvE titles that a PvP player couldn't just grab in a day or two.
If anyone agrees with me, can you think of any comparable titles that this could be? And what would be the requirements to get it? (Just off of the top of my head I thought of Diplomat of the Throne, Barons and Baronesses...though I suppose it would only be Barons because there are no Empresses in PvP lolz).
- Saviour of Nirn
- Daedric Lord Slayer
- Monster Hunter
- Tamriel Hero
- Explorer
Don't you have to do PvP stuff to get a few of those titles?
You have to go into Cyrodiil to do PvE but you are not required to do any PvP for them.
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Samwell Slayer wrote: »Some people like Lfehova/Hova/Hovaling have made 3 nearly identical toons (all bat/scale spaming DK's in DC) and have gotten emp with all three for combined times of almost two months.
If you're lucky and have a day off from work when a campaign resets you can get emp. Just get to the top of the leader boards that day and get lucky enough that your faction flips the boards in the time span.
I got my emp kill achievement on him.
he's my dead bro for life now, whether he knows it or not. EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job4 -
bluesodafizz✭✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »I am disappointed that I will never be Emperor, but I understand why I can't be since I don't ever do PvP. I do, however, think it would make things more fair if there was a similar prestige title for those of us who prefer PvE. Right now I don't feel like I have any PvE titles that a PvP player couldn't just grab in a day or two.
If anyone agrees with me, can you think of any comparable titles that this could be? And what would be the requirements to get it? (Just off of the top of my head I thought of Diplomat of the Throne, Barons and Baronesses...though I suppose it would only be Barons because there are no Empresses in PvP lolz).
- Saviour of Nirn
- Daedric Lord Slayer
- Monster Hunter
- Tamriel Hero
- Explorer
Don't you have to do PvP stuff to get a few of those titles?
You have to go into Cyrodiil to do PvE but you are not required to do any PvP for them.
If you're going to spend enough time in Cryodill to get those achievements, it's very unlikely you wont get into battle with another player, so I don't count that as non PvP.1 -
Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »I am disappointed that I will never be Emperor, but I understand why I can't be since I don't ever do PvP. I do, however, think it would make things more fair if there was a similar prestige title for those of us who prefer PvE. Right now I don't feel like I have any PvE titles that a PvP player couldn't just grab in a day or two.
If anyone agrees with me, can you think of any comparable titles that this could be? And what would be the requirements to get it? (Just off of the top of my head I thought of Diplomat of the Throne, Barons and Baronesses...though I suppose it would only be Barons because there are no Empresses in PvP lolz).
- Saviour of Nirn
- Daedric Lord Slayer
- Monster Hunter
- Tamriel Hero
- Explorer
Don't you have to do PvP stuff to get a few of those titles?
You have to enter Cyrodiil to do dolmens, delves or quests for some of them but you do not actually have to take active part in PvP. Although chances are you are going to encounter players from other alliances at some point and have to fight or respawn.
But on the OP, I will never be emperor because I am:
Not in a huge PvP guild.
Not got enough time to get enough AP.
Not especially great at PvP.
Doesn't mean I don't have a blast most times I go in.
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »I am disappointed that I will never be Emperor, but I understand why I can't be since I don't ever do PvP. I do, however, think it would make things more fair if there was a similar prestige title for those of us who prefer PvE. Right now I don't feel like I have any PvE titles that a PvP player couldn't just grab in a day or two.
If anyone agrees with me, can you think of any comparable titles that this could be? And what would be the requirements to get it? (Just off of the top of my head I thought of Diplomat of the Throne, Barons and Baronesses...though I suppose it would only be Barons because there are no Empresses in PvP lolz).
- Saviour of Nirn
- Daedric Lord Slayer
- Monster Hunter
- Tamriel Hero
- Explorer
Don't you have to do PvP stuff to get a few of those titles?
You have to go into Cyrodiil to do PvE but you are not required to do any PvP for them.
If you're going to spend enough time in Cryodill to get those achievements, it's very unlikely you wont get into battle with another player, so I don't count that as non PvP.
I encountered at least 6 solo players in delves themselves, not counting those I found while traveling between them. I also found myself cornered by a pack of 20+ smurfs in Lipsand Tarn at one point. Fun stuff xDEP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job0 -
Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It's supposed to be difficult to achieve. Y'ffre forbid we get more emp-for-everyone opportunities like the infamous emperor farming.2 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »bluesodafizz wrote: »I am disappointed that I will never be Emperor, but I understand why I can't be since I don't ever do PvP. I do, however, think it would make things more fair if there was a similar prestige title for those of us who prefer PvE. Right now I don't feel like I have any PvE titles that a PvP player couldn't just grab in a day or two.
If anyone agrees with me, can you think of any comparable titles that this could be? And what would be the requirements to get it? (Just off of the top of my head I thought of Diplomat of the Throne, Barons and Baronesses...though I suppose it would only be Barons because there are no Empresses in PvP lolz).
- Saviour of Nirn
- Daedric Lord Slayer
- Monster Hunter
- Tamriel Hero
- Explorer
Don't you have to do PvP stuff to get a few of those titles?
You have to go into Cyrodiil to do PvE but you are not required to do any PvP for them.
If you're going to spend enough time in Cryodill to get those achievements, it's very unlikely you wont get into battle with another player, so I don't count that as non PvP.
I got all the Cyrodiil achievements on my main. Mind you, this was when there were 9 campaigns and my home campaign was heavily slanted towards EP. I think for all of them, I maybe encountered an enemy player three times. If you keep your eyes and ears open, you can stay away from them before they see you.
Of course, if you go into the high-pop campaigns, your chances of meeting players will increase. But it's still doable. Cyrodiil is one of my favourite PvE places.
But the one title I will wear when I get it is Master Angler!
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Audigy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Why is it so important for you to become an Emperor? Its only a title and a color, not really something important.
What matters are your achievements in RL try to accomplish your dreams there and not in a silly game
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DaniAngione✭✭✭✭✭Funny thing, for me, there are *too many* emperors. I mean, even without the AP farming issues and such, I'd still think there are too many. They should be names to echo through the meta-history of this game.
In my defense, I probably won't ever be emperor either (I'm not saying that because I am/was). I just really believe that emperorship should be something really rare... I mean... "no more than 100 people in 4 years of game"-rare.
But that's just me
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bluesodafizz✭✭✭Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Why is it so important for you to become an Emperor? Its only a title and a color, not really something important.
What matters are your achievements in RL try to accomplish your dreams there and not in a silly game
Wow, I am really off-put by this comment. Achievements in a game can also mean an achievement in real life to some people. Especially people who are in hospital beds right now and this game is all they have left to do.8 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Everybody can't have everything. I accept and am okay with the fact that I won't be Emp due to time constraints.Edited by timidobserver on September 12, 2014 4:36PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭bluesodafizz wrote: »
Wow, I am really off-put by this comment. Achievements in a game can also mean an achievement in real life to some people. Especially people who are in hospital beds right now and this game is all they have left to do.
This is true. Some might call being a chess grand master or a poker champion silly because they're just games, but to some people it really means a lot.
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heavy_artillery✭✭✭Do some people honestly want to be Emperor without having to work for it? I don't care for PvP so it's highly unlikely I'll ever become the Head Cheese, but I'm okay with that because I know nothing comes for free. Good luck to all who do enjoy that aspect of the game, I wish you the best in your quest to lead the realm, if it's only for a moment@Bluenotebacker in-game, NA Server3 -
Ragefist✭✭✭✭Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Nope, its a reward for most dedicated players, its perfectly reasonable.
Even if I didnt have a job I wouldnt want to spend that much time in ESO, and definitely not just in Cyrodiil
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Theres no way for the majority of people to have a chance against the people that play 24/7. I wish there was something we could do to have a chance.
Nope, its a reward for most dedicated players, its perfectly reasonable.
Even if I didnt have a job I wouldnt want to spend that much time in ESO, and definitely not just in Cyrodiil
Are you a bad enough dude to move your fridge / desk into the bathroom and only sleep four hours a day?EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job3 -
gunplummer✭✭✭You might not be able to be Emperor, but your chances of getting married or finding a boyfriend/girlfriend have improved, at the very least you get to keep your job. Eating regularly and sleeping indoors is fairly important to me at least.
But seriously I agree I have about 10-12 hours a week to play and have accepted the fact that I will never be Emperor unless the population drops to 3. I could win the lottery or go back to school full time for my doctorate which could improve my chances. Bribes also might work.1 -
dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭There are plenty of things in multiple MMOs that a majority of players will never have. At least in this game it is minimal compared to most MMOs. Time in game is a deciding factor with all MMOs, this game is no different.2
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Would be different if it wasn't initially passed back and forth like mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving dinner. The skill line is powerful - it should be. The former skill line, not so much.
Had the original concept held - you know, gaining the throne, clearing the Imperial City and holding it, it would be different.
Seems a little peculiar that you don't have to kill or truly dethrone the former in order to gain the title.
Don't you think the Emperor would have more defenses in place than that of the 6 keeps surrounding the city? As it stands now, the NPC's defending will stand vigilant, right outside the door where audible chaos ensues, as the keep is taken right out from under them.
The AI is lacking in 'I.' This would at least make the title a bit more earned than it currently is.
Heck, the guy carrying a log to the warehouse has sense enough to fight when he realizes an attack is eminent, WTH don't the elite NPC's at the keeps do so?
It's a numbers game, not so much a strategically earned, skill based thing, as it should be.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS2 -
tplink3r1✭✭✭✭✭
✭first they ask to make the game easy, now they want everyone to become emperor.
whats next? instant vr12?VR16 Templar
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ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭The real problem with emperor is that it's not rewarded for skill at all. It's rewarded to whomever neglects their family and friends the most. Or whoever has multiple people playing the same account.
The Emperor title actually rewards poor real life behavior.>>>>>>>>(DC)Guild Master of Biestas 250+ Active Members<<<<<<<<||||||Vr14 Sorc: Darkened Soul vr14 Templar: Tiffaney||||||“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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AbraXuSeXile✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's not all about how much time you put into it, It's about what you do with your time.
I'm guild leader, raid leader, i work 12 hours a day with a somewhat social life and i became emporer on a very active campaign.AbraXuS
Grand Overlord Rank 50 [First EU]
Clan Leader of eXile
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DaniAngione✭✭✭✭✭If I had the utmost über power to change the world, I would make it so:
Whenever the 6 keeps are taken (and imperial city, maybe, eventually... If it gets attached to the throne war (which it should, IMO)) everyone from that faction CURRENTLY IN CYRODIIL (and in that campaign, of course) gets a 'popup' notification to "show their support" for the eligible emperors.
Eligible emperors are the 10 top AP scores that PARTICIPATED on the battle that took the last keep/imperial city + the top 10 scores from that battle (so the top 10 people that "fought" the battle even if their overall score is not that great).
Like when a king takes land and the generals/nobles "show their support" to whom they think should these lands be granted.
Ok, might not be a good formula, I just threw some random numbers - but I suppose you all get the IDEA; which basically is: give a chance to people that contribute a lot/might lead/raise a big effort (raid, etc) to be emperor regardless of the overall AP score.
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By the way, something similar should be done with keeps as well, the first come, first serve logic to claim them is rather stupid.3 -
Xexpo✭✭✭✭✭Wow, you guys jumped all over the OP just for being bummed out about not having the time in their life to farm AP for Emperor.
I am sure there are many players who feels the same way as the OP.
Getting emp isn't about being good or skilled (sadly), it's about competing with no-lifers (some of which actually share accounts) to farm AP, to obtain the game's crowning achievement.
It's not relevant to this thread what your opinion of the emperor title is.
Fact is, unless you play near 24/7 with a strong core group, you are never going to see it.
Some people think that's kind of lame, and I agree with them.
The Emperor system could use serious improvement.
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apostate9✭✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »Should've never had an emperor system that gives you such a distinct advantage over another player. It wouldn't matter so much if it was just the outfit because the current farmers have shown that the title doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's not even about being the top pvper, it's about who plays the most and can farm the most points. They should've put diminishing returns on alliance point gains when you keep killing the same person over and over and over and over.
POOF! Granted, master.
There are diminushng returns for killing the same person over and over.
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apostate9✭✭✭✭✭Samwell Slayer wrote: »Some people like Lfehova/Hova/Hovaling have made 3 nearly identical toons (all bat/scale spaming DK's in DC) and have gotten emp with all three for combined times of almost two months.
If you're lucky and have a day off from work when a campaign resets you can get emp. Just get to the top of the leader boards that day and get lucky enough that your faction flips the boards in the time span.
I got my emp kill achievement on him. he's my dead bro for life now, whether he knows it or not.
I capped him twice yesterday with a group of like 5 pugs.
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fromtesonlineb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Zos shouldn't allow that to happen, they should limit it to one Emp per account per year .. not least so as not to reward borderline exploiting like this.Samwell Slayer wrote: »Some people like Lfehova/Hova/Hovaling have made 3 nearly identical toons (all bat/scale spaming DK's in DC) and have gotten emp with all three for combined times of almost two months.
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Xeres14✭✭✭I agree! Everyone should be able to become Emperors! I think people should just inherit the title as soon as the character is made. You know, so it's fair for the "normal" people. Because as soon as a requirement is put on the title, it becomes unfair.
Er, but wait! What about the abnormal people? If we give the title to the normal people then it's not fair to the abnormal people! OMG, it's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma!
On second thought this is a bad idea.5
