Well since i'm an Imperial, i'd love a full description on ALL that the 10% Luck bonus covers....not just educated guesses

I don't get it. Why do you distinguish between races? Do you perhaps feel that Dunmer, Altmer, or Bretons are favored over the other races and want to get your belief validated? Just curious to know.

I would have voted "Yes - and I play another race" if not for the fact that I want unarmed damage bonus and night vision

<-- khajiit

Also, I agree with @KhajitFurTrader‌, and add: you are clearly trying to validate a rant about overpowered races through a completely biased poll.

No offense :disagree:

Nestor wrote: »

Also, I agree with @KhajitFurTrader‌, and add: you are clearly trying to validate a rant about overpowered races through a completely biased poll.

Well I wanted to add more data points to the poll to make it more interesting. Personally, I do think that Dunmer is overpowered in pvp, but honestly wasn't intending to make a rant about it.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

And yes , i actually spent time before release thinking about which race would give the best benefits to my class.

So did every Khajiit out when started the game but then out of the blue our racial passive was leveled to the ground and we as usually got screwed...
it was deemed 'too powerfull' and got replaced with utterly useless passive
(useless for most magicka builds, which are 95% of population), whilst above mentioned racials are on par or better than original Khajiit passive.

My main character is an Imperial Templar. One thing I'd like to point out though is that while I generally like the racial passives, I do think that some of them are 'wrong'. I'm actually happy with the way they did Imperial as I never wanted to play one until this game. Other races though like Redgard are missing some features that they've has as long as I recollect. Shouldn't Redgards have poison resistance? Since we can't submerge in water, I suppose faster swimming is fine for Argonians, but I do miss being able to duck down underwater indefinitely, and slaughterfish make this prospect a lot more difficult. It wouldn't be so bad if we could actually attack those Slaughterfish back.

My preferred race is Argonian so what do you think? I obviously didn't pick the race for the passives but the look.

Lizard:
- Extra Swimming (useless in PvP since there are slaughter fish everywhere you would swim)
- Extra healing gained when healed. (cute but ultimately a small meh bonus)
- Disease resistance (utterly worthless since I still take damage from meatbag cats and I still suffer the healing reduction)
- Health bonus (about the only decent ability)

Argonians need to have the following passives:

- Extra Armor. They do have tough hides compared with the squishy Humans/Elves (should be a flat number since a % would give Lt armor wearers less and Hvy more) Say +75 at lvl 1 and +150 total at lvl 2.
- ES has always considered Argonians excellent thieves and "sneaky" so they should get a 10% bonus to sneak speed and hide detection.

I know this post is fishing for a race change option and I for one would buy it in an instant. Such a bummer that my Khajit melee crit based Sorc did not work out how I intended when I rolled him on day 1 early access.

Erock25 wrote: »

I know this post is fishing for a race change option

I know race change has been discussed ad nauseum recently. But race change is not the only option, which is why I didn't want to make this poll about the race change.

Personally, I would prefer a feature where one race can obtain the bonuses of another, or some rebalancing.

When you mix aesthetics with mechanics, you are bound to run into problems. In fact, the previous two ES games realized that and thus made the distinction between light armor and heavy armor purely cosmetic (ES: Oblivion) or mostly cosmetic (Skyrim). And right now, I think we do have legitimate issues with balance across racials.

So the op edits his original post, changing what he originally said about his poll. Apparently something about luck, which isn't even in this game. So what the hell is the point now, op?

What are you talking about? The post about luck is the second post, not the OP.

Also, the OP was only edited for clarity to add the first paragraph to make it more clear. Nothing substantive was edited.

DaniAngione wrote: »

I would have voted "Yes - and I play another race" if not for the fact that I want unarmed damage bonus and night vision

<-- khajiit

Also, I agree with @KhajitFurTrader‌, and add: you are clearly trying to validate a rant about overpowered races through a completely biased poll.

No offense :disagree:

Heck yes I'll take that unarmed and night eye! Thank you very much!

well the passives of dunmer are real greath with a DK, but on my second char, the argonian passives are kinda lackluster

Not voting. Totally fishing for stat to validate position on race balance.

You make choices at character creation. You just have to live with those choices or re-roll...shrug.

PlagueMonk wrote: »

My preferred race is Argonian so what do you think? I obviously didn't pick the race for the passives but the look.

Lizard:
- Extra Swimming (useless in PvP since there are slaughter fish everywhere you would swim)
- Extra healing gained when healed. (cute but ultimately a small meh bonus)
- Disease resistance (utterly worthless since I still take damage from meatbag cats and I still suffer the healing reduction)
- Health bonus (about the only decent ability)

Argonians need to have the following passives:

- Extra Armor. They do have tough hides compared with the squishy Humans/Elves (should be a flat number since a % would give Lt armor wearers less and Hvy more) Say +75 at lvl 1 and +150 total at lvl 2.
- ES has always considered Argonians excellent thieves and "sneaky" so they should get a 10% bonus to sneak speed and hide detection.

Right?! I'm an Argonian fan, as well, and our racials are painfully inadequate. What really bothers me, though, is that a bit ago they tweaked all the racial abilities and even completely changed the Nord racial Rugged, but did nothing to the Argonian racials. Someone in a powerful position thinks Argonian racials are awesome.

We got screwed and now the game is too far along to expect any type of change without an outcry. I've been sending in-game feedback for awhile now. It's probably futile, but I still do it. It's like debating politics with people, it may be a waste of time, but at least I try.

However, if enough of us protest, we might have a chance to get it changed. Really, it's the only shot we have. Send in-game feedback. Let them know. Erect the spine of dissatisfaction.

Type "/feedback" in the dialog box, hit enter, and it will bring up the form to fill out and submit. Join the revolution! Liberate Argonians once more.

As an Argonian, I would be satisfied if they would make me swim like a damn lizard using my tail and not have the same swim animations as the other races. I have the awesome crocodile-like tail that I do not use to swim.

jrgray93 wrote: »

I've always liked bretons since long before they became such a great option in ESO. So as I rolled a healer to play with friends, I was lucky enough to have two reasons to spring for the breton; the magicka passives and my personal preference. Little did I know, magicka would be generally seen as the best way to go in the game. Lucky me.

I hate you.


....

Not really, I'm just jealous. I have Breton-envy.