Guild Traders

Iorail · August 2014

Something is horribly wrong as all traders are already taken by guilds...what happened to the week long bid process?

@ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom.

Edit: I just when to every zone on every alliance and all traders are already taken, the bid is due in 4 days and 14 hours....

ZOS_JanS · August 2014

Hey @lorail!

That's working as intended, as you can read in the Patch Notes v1.3.3. Since nobody could bid on this cycle last week, all traders were fair game once they set up shop. Once this cycle has ended, it'll work the way you expected it to.

Guild Traders
Guilds can now hire merchants from The Gold Coast Trading Company in locations across Tamriel to serve as public outlets for their guild stores.

Guilds will participate in a blind bid that lasts one week to win the traders’ services for one full week. You can only bid on one trader at a time, and the highest bidder will be the winner.

Guilds can also hire a trader for a flat fee, as long as the trader is currently un-hired.
You can hire the trader during a bidding cycle, though you’d only be hiring him for the remaining time that’s left on the bidding cycle.

This hire lasts up to a week, until the end of the current bidding cycle, and is first come first served.

Iorail · August 2014

@ZOS_JanS I see, thanks, thread can be close

Darlgon · August 2014

To be noted here, a guild has to have 50 players in it to have a guild store and purchase a vendor..

GTech_1 · August 2014

Un-hired guild traders cannot be bought.

I'm looking at one right now that is not hired, I have proper permissions, and she only gives me the dialog option of "Goodbye".

Ravalox · August 2014

@ZOS_GinaBruno As of today (Monday at 0900 ET) There are a number of Traders across the zones that cannot be purchased. (they respond as noted above in @GTech_1 's post.

I have opened a bug report on this (140818-001499)

My specific example is Laknar in Daggerfall, but I found Traders with the same issue in Wayrest, Sentinal and Shornhelm.

ZOS_GinaBruno · August 2014

Thanks for the report, guys. We're taking a look now.

Ravalox · August 2014

Thanks Gina!

Eve_Knight · August 2014

Gina (and other ZOS),

I don't want to post it here, but feel free to email/PM/whatever me for a list of the ones I've encountered that are behaving like this.

Jimmy_The_Hand69 · August 2014

I have found this same bug also, after missing our Guild's Trader Spot we wanted. I would like to add though that a trader we had hired the week previous ( hired, not won the bid on ) gave me the option of entering the Guild Store. Even though I could not hire her due to some bug. It was different than other non-hired traders that would not let me hire them. They only gave the option of 'Goodbye'

Eve_Knight · August 2014

Yeah, they're doing a lot of weird things. Some are normal. Some don't show tabards or the guild name when targeting but still show a Guild Store option (which displays the guild name once you actually have the store window open) but are still missing the hire and bid choices. These problems seemed to start yesterday.

Others have been completely invisible since launch.

DMuehlhausen · August 2014

I can't even see the traders in Cold Harbour.

Ravalox · August 2014

Sounds lie something went wrong with the end of cycle code. I've also gotten reports of being able to browse the store but not able to make a purchase.

wolfgameingub17_ESO · August 2014

3 of 5 broken in Greenshade still.

Idhaleya · August 2014

There is a problem with the Traders in german called "Leere Stadt". The People who don't completed the Quest of the Town can see the Traders. But the People who completed the Quest arent able to see the Traders

This is very bad..

I made a Bug Report ingame!
@ZOS_GinaBruno

AlnilamE · August 2014

Is there any update on this? They still seemed to be bugged last night (though one of the traders I was checking out now has a guild), and with the bidding cycle coming to a close in a few days, guilds can't even bid on those traders.

Absynthe · August 2014

Maybe a dumb question, but why are all the "guild vendors" I see selling... nothing? Is there some magic way to see the store stocks?

Iorail · August 2014

People underestimated the traders and hire them with hardly nothing to sell, or they can't handle the selling volume and are not able to keep up. You need close to 75% of 500 active member to post daily for the guild to be able to keep up on sales, at least that is what I have see since the traders came out.

Elsonso · August 2014

Absynthe wrote: »

Maybe a dumb question, but why are all the "guild vendors" I see selling... nothing? Is there some magic way to see the store stocks?

Are you pressing R to search? When you first open the guild trader, nothing is in there until you search.

Absynthe · August 2014

@lordrichter Yeah, I have tried clicking things and entering stuff in the search box, and I don't see anything. Maybe some guild vendors are better than others? I just need to find them, I guess.

Elsonso · August 2014

I am not sure what dynamic causes guild traders to have no stock, to be honest. I know that when I first started using them, I had to remember to do the initial search.

I have yet to find any guild traders that have no stock, but given how fast some of my stuff sells, sometimes it is a full time job just restocking. It would not surprise me if a guild with a small stock and low prices got cleaned out quickly.

Ravalox · September 2014

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , I filed another bug report today: 140901-000675

The Kiosks cannot be bid on (again) ...

We won our bid this week and the Kiosk is showing our colors in Wayrest. I did notice that none of the five located in Daggerfall have tabards on, but this may just be a coincidence.

wolfgameingub17_ESO · September 2014

Can't buy non bid on Kiosk again, went to AD, EP, and DC, ALL zones had at least 1 kiosk not being used and NPC will only say 'Good bye". It is a REAL bummer getting up at 5am for a bug.
On side note, was the plan really to have guilds CHARGE to be members? I have dropped 2 guilds asking 3k gold a week to be members. Fine bid 1 million gold on kiosk in 1 town, but let us small guilds have a chance to use the non wanted merchants. Starting to feel like non bid on kiosk are 'bugged' for Zos's gold sink.....

Iorail · September 2014

wolfgameingub17_ESO wrote: »

On side note, was the plan really to have guilds CHARGE to be members? I have dropped 2 guilds asking 3k gold a week to be members.

I'm the guild leader of a Trading Guild since Early Access (NA), in no way of fashion would I charge anyone a "weekly fee" to be able to hire a trader. We have around 460 active members (110 on at all times) out of 500 and our store is always stock enough to pull over 100k on taxes a week. That alone is enough for us to hire a good trader without even spending half of the taxes.

Guilds that require the membership to "donate" gold are either lacking on active members, lacking on store items or lacking in good planning or all of those. I would never be part of a guild that makes the membership supply gold for something that can sustain itself, never the less inflate the pockets of the leadership with my hard earn gold.

On topic, I notice today around 10ish kiosk in various locations that can not be hire and around 5 that don't even have traders on them at all, something is going wrong with them, specially the ones on places that change when a quest is completed, aka Coldharbour.

GTech_1 · September 2014

NA Maintenance is skipped, and the traders bug out *again* ...

The bug is in the end of cycle code, which is normally "covered up" by the maintenance routines.

Get it fixed, now.
I'm sick of features being broken for weeks or months at a time. This type of nonsense is embarrassing for your company.

spoqster · September 2014

I have the same problem. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ any idea yet if this will be fixed before update 4?

ZOS_AmeliaR · September 2014

Hey everyone. As mentioned in another thread on this topic, this issue should be resolved with Update 4. If that changes, we'll be sure to let everyone know.

Eve_Knight · September 2014

Yes, saw that on the PTS patch notes thread. Thank you much. So ... when's Update 4 due on live?

Update: Ah, I see "next week" on the dev tracker.

Nextsmallthings_ESO · September 2014

On a side note, there is a bug when clicking Sort by Price. After the first guild trader you visit, you always have to click the price twice to have it sort by highest price.

Eve_Knight · September 2014

Worse than that is it scrolling back to the top after you buy one item. Hopefully those fixes are also in Update 4. Probably not. But hopefully.

Bollerlotte · September 2014

hi there, i can not set up a new bid for the next bidding interval to come. im the guild leader and i ve been bidding since weeks and changed no permissions ):