Max Speed Exploit

  • Ezareth
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    What the hell are you talking about? Harness magicka doesn't return magicka for physical damage attacks. I don't use any "bugs" to my advantage.

    Stack em up, stand in caltrops and tell me it doesn't return magicka on physical damage. It's bugged.

    @ferzalrwb17_ESO‌

    Then Caltrops is magic damage not physical as stupid as that sounds. I get hit with Flying blades constantly....and flying blades returns no magicka to me when I have Harness Magicka up.
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  • Cody
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    Domander wrote: »
    There are cheats and bugs everywhere. It's ironic that the person making this video is using a bug to huge advantage as well. Aside from the ludicrous notion of shield stacking the meat&potatoes of a bubblespam build is harness which, currently, does not do what the tooltip describes. It returns magicka on all damage.

    Find me a build that isn't exploiting bugs and I'll show you a build that's gimped by them. It's nigh on impossible to make a clean build.

    Sure, there's a difference between using a build that exploits bugs/mechanics (especially accidentally) and triggering a bug like maxspeed. But how much practically? The game is riddled with bugs and unintended effects. It's a mess and they just don't care. Give up. They have.

    Someone using multiple damage shields is in no way an exploit, in fact, I'd go on to say that it's working as intended. It's like saying using more than one healing ability is some sort of exploit/bug.

    Some sorcerers use damage shields because they can't heal themselves very well in pvp.
    now, if only NBs had something like that. :)
  • Ezareth
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    Cody wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    There are cheats and bugs everywhere. It's ironic that the person making this video is using a bug to huge advantage as well. Aside from the ludicrous notion of shield stacking the meat&potatoes of a bubblespam build is harness which, currently, does not do what the tooltip describes. It returns magicka on all damage.

    Find me a build that isn't exploiting bugs and I'll show you a build that's gimped by them. It's nigh on impossible to make a clean build.

    Sure, there's a difference between using a build that exploits bugs/mechanics (especially accidentally) and triggering a bug like maxspeed. But how much practically? The game is riddled with bugs and unintended effects. It's a mess and they just don't care. Give up. They have.

    Someone using multiple damage shields is in no way an exploit, in fact, I'd go on to say that it's working as intended. It's like saying using more than one healing ability is some sort of exploit/bug.

    Some sorcerers use damage shields because they can't heal themselves very well in pvp.
    now, if only NBs had something like that. :)

    They can use Harness Magicka and Healing ward the same as a Sorc. We have Conjured Ward but it is the most expensive shield by far and is just pure meat, not healing or magick absorption.

    Some of the best NBs I've fought rotate healing ward into their mixup and they're a damn PITA to kill. After it gets buffed/fixed next patch I anticipate healing ward will be even more common.

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  • Ezareth
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    I just want to say I just saw the player in question, still using the hack (if that's what it is). She's trying not to be as obvious with it up front, but when I had her tab targeted as soon as she was out of LoS she was flying around.

    /Report player does absolutely nothing. It never has.

    They are however all over their "naming and shaming" policy. I of course got a warning for posting a video despite the fact I never mentioned the player in question.

    Zenimax and ESO deserve what their future brings.
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    Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
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  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    @ferzalrwb17_ESO‌

    Then Caltrops is magic damage not physical as stupid as that sounds. I get hit with Flying blades constantly....and flying blades returns no magicka to me when I have Harness Magicka up.

    Caltrops are physical. Flying blade will also return magicka now. You can test all this easily enough.
  • Cody
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    I just want to say I just saw the player in question, still using the hack (if that's what it is). She's trying not to be as obvious with it up front, but when I had her tab targeted as soon as she was out of LoS she was flying around.

    /Report player does absolutely nothing. It never has.

    They are however all over their "naming and shaming" policy. I of course got a warning for posting a video despite the fact I never mentioned the player in question.

    Zenimax and ESO deserve what their future brings.

    the name and shame policy is a pathetic and illogical policy, given the way things are nowadays. the report system does NOTHING, so the only way we can get the word out is to talk about it in the forums, but ZOS does not allow it, so that also fails.

    the policy is nothing more than a way to protect cheaters and exploiters because the staff at ZOS headquarters is either too lazy, or too scared, to do anything about this crap. Now, I will give credit where its do. I have heard rumors that the people that got thru DCs closed gates on zergblade and stole their scroll, have been dealt with. I hope this is true. If so, good for ZOS; But its not enough. We need more action taken against these people. Stop protecting them and deal with them!
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    @ferzalrwb17_ESO‌

    Then Caltrops is magic damage not physical as stupid as that sounds. I get hit with Flying blades constantly....and flying blades returns no magicka to me when I have Harness Magicka up.

    Caltrops are physical. Flying blade will also return magicka now. You can test all this easily enough.

    I went back through my videos and you can clearly see I'm being hit by flying blade with harness magicka up my my magicka didn't move other than the normal regen ticks. I did observe that caltrops regens magicka however.

    All that said I'm not exploiting anything. The Templar hit me with pure magicka damage regardless so even were there a bug with it I'm not benefiting from it.
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    Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
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    Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
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  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    @ferzalrwb17_ESO‌

    Then Caltrops is magic damage not physical as stupid as that sounds. I get hit with Flying blades constantly....and flying blades returns no magicka to me when I have Harness Magicka up.

    Caltrops are physical. Flying blade will also return magicka now. You can test all this easily enough.

    I went back through my videos and you can clearly see I'm being hit by flying blade with harness magicka up my my magicka didn't move other than the normal regen ticks. I did observe that caltrops regens magicka however.

    All that said I'm not exploiting anything. The Templar hit me with pure magicka damage regardless so even were there a bug with it I'm not benefiting from it.

    Yes you happened to be hit by magic damage only there. A big complaint about shieldstacking (falling on deaf ears I think) is that there is no counter because harness magicka is broken. You cannot avoid giving your opponent magicka to spam.

    It's not in the same category as these exploits but it is a very broken mechanic (one of many) and there's nothing you can do but exploit it (in the literal sense of the word).

    My initial post was in that vein. I get frustrated because I see, not only, no action taken against blatant cheaters but no action taken to fix the problems in the game that lead to these sorts of things being possible in the first place. They've been reported a long, long time before release but the patches go ahead anyway. So there's some irony in these threads along with the futility.

    ZOS doesn't care about cheaters or the bugs they exploit. That's the overriding factor in all this.

    edit: I just retested this to be sure it's still busted. Returns magicka on all absorbed damage regardless of type - still broken. If you use an addon to show returned magicka you will see it returning magicka on all damage including things like flying blade. There is, currently, no counter to Harness Magicka. Except other bugs/exploits like permastun coupled with brute force of course.

    Edited by ferzalrwb17_ESO on September 8, 2014 6:47AM
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