Do you want a better trading system?
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ItsGlaive✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I like the current system.It's been a pleasure as always, I look forward to your next identical poll.
The system isn't broken, it works as it was intended to work and many of us have not only bought into it, but actively work to improve it by building up our stores, revising prices to keep them fair and opening our doors to anyone in need of a store. It's up to those ppl to ask if they need membership, we can only advertise so much. But to not only refuse to try it but also to refuse to even research it, betrays a special kind of entitlement and ignorance. Couple that with your swearing and abusive messages and I can safely say, it's been an experience...Allow cross-platform transfers and merges5 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I want something better.It's been a pleasure as always, I look forward to your next identical poll.
The system isn't broken, it works as it was intended to work and many of us have not only bought into it, but actively work to improve it by building up our stores, revising prices to keep them fair and opening our doors to anyone in need of a store. It's up to those ppl to ask if they need membership, we can only advertise so much. But to not only refuse to try it but also to refuse to even research it, betrays a special kind of entitlement and ignorance. Couple that with your swearing and abusive messages and I can safely say, it's been an experience...
I have researched it. You are so full of it, you can't even link any proof to guilds that have kiosks and take random players. The current system leaves individuals without a place to list their items other than spamming zone chat. If they want to find a guild with a kiosk, they are forced to kiss the ass of people like you, which is pretty pathetic. This is not a fair system, it favors the no life players. It favors the pathetic sheep who go out of their way to LOL every post they don't like because they are afraid they will lose their ability to exploit everyone else who can't sell in a kiosk. It's a poor excuse for a trade system where the developers have allowed guilds to form corporations and control all trade in the game. It's a bunch of BS that could be greatly improved.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 4, 2014 1:09PM4 -
Moonglum83✭✭✭No, I like the current system.It's been a pleasure as always, I look forward to your next identical poll.
The system isn't broken, it works as it was intended to work and many of us have not only bought into it, but actively work to improve it by building up our stores, revising prices to keep them fair and opening our doors to anyone in need of a store. It's up to those ppl to ask if they need membership, we can only advertise so much. But to not only refuse to try it but also to refuse to even research it, betrays a special kind of entitlement and ignorance. Couple that with your swearing and abusive messages and I can safely say, it's been an experience...
Exactly.
Hopefully you can find some sort of comfort in the thought that he is just generally abusive to anyone who doesn't agree with him, these posters being drowned in profanity that even the ocean wouldn't be able to wash off.
Just try and ignore him, and move on.
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Zorrashi✭✭✭✭✭It's been a pleasure as always, I look forward to your next identical poll.
The system isn't broken, it works as it was intended to work and many of us have not only bought into it, but actively work to improve it by building up our stores, revising prices to keep them fair and opening our doors to anyone in need of a store. It's up to those ppl to ask if they need membership, we can only advertise so much. But to not only refuse to try it but also to refuse to even research it, betrays a special kind of entitlement and ignorance. Couple that with your swearing and abusive messages and I can safely say, it's been an experience...
I have researched it. You are so full of it, you can't even link any proof to guilds that have kiosks and take random players. The current system leaves individuals without a place to list their items other than spamming zone chat. If they want to find a guild with a kiosk, they are forced to kiss the ass of people like you, which is pretty pathetic. This is not a fair system, it favors the no life players. It favors the pathetic sheep who go out of their way to LOL every post they don't like because they are afraid they will lose their ability to exploit everyone else who can't sell in a kiosk. It's a poor excuse for a trade system where the developers have allowed guilds to form corporations and control all trade in the game. It's a bunch of BS that could be greatly improved.
You know, I would just like to point out that many players don't necessarily find guilds with kiosks, rather, they join guilds and end up getting a kiosk because they earn the money to. I will admit that I am a little bit perturbed at the idea an individual can't sell as viably, but that is no reason to go around spouting offensive gibberish just because one quality irks you to no end. I myself am a casual player, and I have steady income, and its not like I constantly monitor price or haggle with people or whatever else you think "no lifers" do.3 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I want something better.It's been a pleasure as always, I look forward to your next identical poll.
The system isn't broken, it works as it was intended to work and many of us have not only bought into it, but actively work to improve it by building up our stores, revising prices to keep them fair and opening our doors to anyone in need of a store. It's up to those ppl to ask if they need membership, we can only advertise so much. But to not only refuse to try it but also to refuse to even research it, betrays a special kind of entitlement and ignorance. Couple that with your swearing and abusive messages and I can safely say, it's been an experience...
I have researched it. You are so full of it, you can't even link any proof to guilds that have kiosks and take random players. The current system leaves individuals without a place to list their items other than spamming zone chat. If they want to find a guild with a kiosk, they are forced to kiss the ass of people like you, which is pretty pathetic. This is not a fair system, it favors the no life players. It favors the pathetic sheep who go out of their way to LOL every post they don't like because they are afraid they will lose their ability to exploit everyone else who can't sell in a kiosk. It's a poor excuse for a trade system where the developers have allowed guilds to form corporations and control all trade in the game. It's a bunch of BS that could be greatly improved.
You know, I would just like to point out that many players don't necessarily find guilds with kiosks, rather, they join guilds and end up getting a kiosk because they earn the money to. I will admit that I am a little bit perturbed at the idea an individual can't sell as viably, but that is no reason to go around spouting offensive gibberish just because one quality irks you to no end. I myself am a casual player, and I have steady income, and its not like I constantly monitor price or haggle with people or whatever else you think "no lifers" do.
If you don't trade in a kiosk, you don't fit the description. I used the phrase "no lifers" to exaggerate what a person must do to meet the standards to get into the trade guilds with kiosks. I'm sure a few of them change hands every week, but it's a gamble. One which every guild member is placing on the shoulders of some random leader and hoping for the best. It's not convenient at all, and I think it could be better.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 4, 2014 1:27PM3 -
Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I want something better.I think the point the OP is trying to get across, is that there's limited space to sell at lucrative kiosks. There's plenty of kiosks and plenty of guilds with lots of room who own them, but let's face it, those are in less than perfect places and offer much less profit than those placed in Craglorn or crafting hubs. Getting in those guilds can be a daunting task or costly.
However, I would welcome a non-hostile tone in this debate as well, since that isn't leading anywhere and doesn't help with the matter hand at all. I for one am convinced that we can bring both groups together, by retaining the overall feel of the kiosk system, but still improving functionality and accessibility.
It's in the best interest of the game, since the current system isn't capable of supporting any growth of the player base, as a matter of fact it would work better with even less people we got around right now. But that cannot be anyone's interest, can it?"You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I want something better.At this point, I would be happy joining in a remote location, but the guilds are not easy enough to contact. All you see at the trading post is their name. You go into the store and see items with names on them, but there is no information on who the officers are so you pretty much have to choose a name and ask. Yes, it's possible, but incredibly awkward and inconvenient. Even if the only improvement made was contacting the guild leaders, it would be better than what we have now.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 4, 2014 2:26PM3 -
squshy7✭✭✭No, I like the current system.lol? you think that you need some sort of "commitment" to join most of these trade guilds? -sigh-
Guild: Merchant's Circle
Description: Highly successful trade guild with a kiosk in *prime* location in Rawl'kha (sp?).
But Squshy! How do I get in?!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eso+merchant's+circle
And wouldn't you know, the first link gives you all you need to join a guild where you're extremely likely to sell your wares. (And yes, @fentowski is still an officer that can invite, so don't use necro thread argument, kthnxbai)
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Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I like the current system.Not necessarily global, but better than the current options of either spamming zone chat or joining a player owned trade guild.
I think the current system is great. There obv needs to be some tweeks to improve it but that's another thread entirely.No. I'm making tons of gold in the current system. See no reason why others can't as well. I'm no genius when it comes to economics (real or MMO) but I can still make more gold than I can spend in ESO.
Mostly because guilds have a 500 player limit, so not everyone will be lucky enough to get in the good ones. And just because the system works for a few players doesn't mean it works for everyone. Joining some other players guild is a hassle. The good ones usually have requirements to meet which I really don't want to deal with. I don't have a lot of time to play the game, and I would prefer playing it instead of spamming zone chat to sell items I find. Why should guilds be the only players who can post items for sale? It seems very selfish and I think it should be changed.
Most "good" guilds have a webpage. You should go to the webpage and send an email stating you would like to join. Then you should receive a response to that email or just get the notification to join in game.
Also pls don't tell me to f*** off in private messages again. It's incredibly childish, I simply pointed out that you're spamming the same poll you put up two days ago. Grow up and learn to take criticism like an adult.
@SFBryan18 - This^.
I'm the gm of a large trading guild with a public trader. I take in randoms all the time and don't have any commitments of my members. I would of given you an invite however;
With that said, after seeing your responses to comments (especially to Xabien which I've quoted here), I will not be sending a recruitment offer. I don't tolerate any form of disrespect or belittling in my guild and from what you've shown here you would not be a good fit with us.
I wish you the best of luck in finding the right solution for you to trade.
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Slelis✭✭Yes, I want something better.I'd personally love an Auction House at this point, now that my crafts are almost max level. It'd also make finding the things I want much easier than having to teleport around from town to town searching through guild traders / using General to try and find someone who has what I want.0
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I want something better.With the number of players still playing, a global trade hub is needed. Otherwise there are dozens of dozens of "trading guilds" that have under 50 active members, and not even 1/4 of those post anything in their guild stores anyway.
Agreed. It seems items are getting harder to find in the guild stores and more of them are closing every day due to inactivity of their members and fewer people playing. Plus so many people are in the highest vet ranks now and don't really need to use guild stores. So if you are new to ESO or leveling a new character it is hard to find what you need. A global system needs to be implemented and there should be no cap on the number items you want to sell.Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen | Altmer Templar | Magicka | 9-Trait Master Crafter/Jeweler | Master Angler | PVE Main - Killed by U35
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k9mouse✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I like the current system.I like the current multi market system. AH are just a place to help to gold farmers more. With a multi market system, it is much harder for them to work and make a profit.
Also, AH will just accelerate the gold inflation that happens in every MMO. I will be so glad when this topic (and polls go away)3 -
Super_Sonico✭✭✭✭Yes, I want something better.I very much encourage everyone to stop using the 'Auction House' language. I can only assume that this comes from WoW. And in general I think it is causing a 'we're not WoW' knee-jerk reaction against it.
Plus, I don't want 'ESO meets E-Bay'.
I just want an alliance based or world based economy where prices will settle down and stabilize, and where I can see that trying to sell X resource won't sell because the market is flooded with them. I don't want to have to join 5 different trade guilds just to off-load my wares. It defeats the purpose of what a guild should be (or what they classically have been in 99% of games before).
I just want the ability to see what's being sold by everyone. At this point I'd just settle for a /trade channel.
It would be super cool if there were a way, incorporated in the new justice system, to have alliance aligned goods. Create an alliance wide marketplace. Then have a black market for the other alliance goods that can't be sold through your alliance.
I've said it many times before. A game mechanic should not limit what players would naturally be able to do in an RPG world. Being able to trade with anyone through a stores and merchants should naturally happen throughout Tamriel. Why is it being limited by a game mechanics?3 -
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I like the current system.Jesus Christ, stop making these polls.
Let it go.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.3 -
WebBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I want something better.
Keep making these pools until this sub par system is revamped so that we can see everything available with out spending hours and hours hunting down items.2 -
Super_Sonico✭✭✭✭Yes, I want something better.That that (at the time of this writing) the poll is tied 50%/50%, and with these two posts:smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Jesus Christ, stop making these polls.
Let it go.Keep making these pools until this sub par system is revamped so that we can see everything available with out spending hours and hours hunting down items.
I have a suggestion: How about there is some sort of compromise?
Make a global way of accessing all the current guild traders, without having to hunt them all down just to see what they have. Or make all guild traders in the province you are in viewable from a single location. Maybe all you can do is see what's on them and you have to travel to them still to buy the item. Something...
That way, those of us who want a world economy view can get it without wasting our play time running all over creation just to see if someone has what we're looking for. And those of you who don't want to use it won't have to.
Everyone wins.
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JacilynSoul ShrivenYes, I want something better.Super_Sonico wrote: »That that (at the time of this writing) the poll is tied 50%/50%, and with these two posts:smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Jesus Christ, stop making these polls.
Let it go.Keep making these pools until this sub par system is revamped so that we can see everything available with out spending hours and hours hunting down items.
I have a suggestion: How about there is some sort of compromise?
Make a global way of accessing all the current guild traders, without having to hunt them all down just to see what they have. Or make all guild traders in the province you are in viewable from a single location. Maybe all you can do is see what's on them and you have to travel to them still to buy the item. Something...
That way, those of us who want a world economy view can get it without wasting our play time running all over creation just to see if someone has what we're looking for. And those of you who don't want to use it won't have to.
Everyone wins.
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AshySamurai✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I like the current system.I totally forgot! And remembered only now. ESOutpost All can easily trade without guilds. I hope all happy now.Edited by AshySamurai on September 5, 2014 11:28AMMake sweetrolls, not nerfs!1 -
seanolan✭✭✭✭No, I like the current system.So, I needed a specific recipe, a rare level 15, and was searching guild kiosks for it. I literally went to six zones, 2 cities or more in each zone. I was getting a little frustrated, but when I finally found it, I felt such a rush of accomplishment. Something I could never have gotten from a 2 minute search in an auction house. I felt I had actually achieved something. As for joining trade guilds, its usually no harder than asking in open chat if anyone is a member of a good trade guild. You usually will be inundated with offers. Take any or all of them....you can quit a guild as fast as you like if it doesn't seem to suit your needs. With all the time you have wasted making whiny polls, you could be a merchant prince in the game by now.3
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Oolou✭✭✭No, I like the current system.I would have liked an option for "Don't really mind." I use a trade guild and I have also used the chat to buy stuff. A global trade channel would perhaps be nice. But I'm in a big trade guild and that guild's channel is almost like a trade channel which seems to suffice.0 -
Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I like the current system.Super_Sonico wrote: »That that (at the time of this writing) the poll is tied 50%/50%, and with these two posts:smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Jesus Christ, stop making these polls.
Let it go.Keep making these pools until this sub par system is revamped so that we can see everything available with out spending hours and hours hunting down items.
I have a suggestion: How about there is some sort of compromise?
Make a global way of accessing all the current guild traders, without having to hunt them all down just to see what they have. Or make all guild traders in the province you are in viewable from a single location. Maybe all you can do is see what's on them and you have to travel to them still to buy the item. Something...
That way, those of us who want a world economy view can get it without wasting our play time running all over creation just to see if someone has what we're looking for. And those of you who don't want to use it won't have to.
Everyone wins.
Once you say the words "world economy view" or "global" or whatever you'd like to call it....by implementing a global AH in it's traditional sense....that's it, khajits out of the bag. Prepare for rapid price devaluation.
The only way I could see your idea working is.....
if you can view the items and at which trader they are located but not be able to see the price it is listed for. This would make it much harder for players to immediately undercut the market and quickly deflate the economy.
That way you would know where to go directly to get the item saving your time but you would have to put in more effort to determine its price.
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Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I want something better.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Jesus Christ, stop making these polls.
Let it go.
Why should people let it go if they feel passionate about something? You maybe happy with the sub-standard trading farce we have now... many of us are not !
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm not a huge fan but I gotta say, the saturation of the issue makes me lose interest in worrying about it and I have just learned to make due.
I have finally my main toon worked out to where he has enough skill points commited to run 2 entirely different spec; one medium armor hybrid build for when I want to do something a little different, and one magicka build for being a follower, and I still have 40 points left and I am just maybe a thrid of the way through the 3rd VR zones skyshards and still have most of Cyrodiils to get and Craglorns so Im gonna just use those points for crafting food, alchemy and enchants, while I have another toon that so far is pretty much a dedicated crafter doing blacksmith, clothing and woodworking. I just won't need the market that much.0 -
Vahrokh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I want something better.Funny thread name. Makes me wonder if you want to sell a Forex / Stocks "get rich quick" Trading System or what
Anyway I'd like to have filters so when I want to sell something I don't have to sift through 3 gazillion items in inventory.
Also, something less glitchy, where I can navigate pages quicker, where I can save my items selections, where when I switch guild the market window won't often glitch and show items I posted to previous guild store and so on.
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So, I needed a specific recipe, a rare level 15, and was searching guild kiosks for it. I literally went to six zones, 2 cities or more in each zone. I was getting a little frustrated, but when I finally found it, I felt such a rush of accomplishment. Something I could never have gotten from a 2 minute search in an auction house. I felt I had actually achieved something.
People do seem to forget that the TES Series is based on Exploration (just look at all the Exploration Achievements). Trying to find a specific item is just part of the Exploration. It should be the same for trying to buy something.
However, it could be a little easier to do, like if they defaulted to the last filter we used at the last Guild Trader. I would imagine that most people go to multiple traders just because they are looking for something specific.
I think people are spoiled by sites like Price Grabber and the like that tell us where we can buy something.
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, I like the current system.Only thing I'd want is the ability to set up shop and sell some items from my character while I'm away from the PC like in Lineage 2 but the guild system is perfect.0 -
Circuitous✭✭✭✭✭Of course I'd want a better trade system. It says "better" right there. I couldn't possibly argue against it.
But until ESO comes up with and implements a better trading system...Ｔｈａｎｋ Ｓｔｅｎｄａｒｒ ｉｔ’ｓ Ｆｒｅｄａｓ．
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