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Sneak speed issue
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »I'm a v10 stamina nightblade and I used the nights silence, vampire combo to run faster than horses, don't kid yourself saying it doesn't need a nerf, I could literally one shot someone out of stealth with my two hander then be back at the keep by the time my invis ran out. When they took a scroll I could walk through the middle of countless reds and catch up the scroll runner, its broken as all hell and needs to be nerfed, horses should be fastest thing in the game by a long stretch.
Lie. Show me a video of this so called one shot... I have max spell damage AND magicka and do only about 1.2k damage (about a third of players health in PvP).
Lol max spell damage and magicka, try weapon damage, stamina and crit damage and you might see why.... wrecking blow does 5k in pve, only 1.8+ in pvp but still gets them low enough to insta burst.... if you havent tried it you should, I use dual wield resto in PVE and dual wield two hander in pvp
LOL... Concealed weapon is based on spell damage and magicka... Do you even ESO bro?
Then your build must be so *** because my concealed weapon hits for 1.6k all the time in pvp....... you must really suck and my heavy attacks out of sneak hit harder than that..... magicka spell power just doesnt sneak attack as hard as stamina....
Video or didn't happen
Go out, find a character that isnt wearing a stick and skirt, concealed weapon see how much you hit for, if its less than 1.4k you are doing sonething wrong
Magicka: 2330
Spell damage: 125
First was 1176 damage with concealed weapon from sneak
And I am playing without the NS set, and it's not fun... it's tediousEdited by akray21 on September 5, 2014 12:32AM0 -
kijima✭✭✭✭✭
✭glitchmaster999 wrote: »
Lol as opposed to other nightblade dps sets that make you...... just as sqyishy, this isthe exact same attitude people had on bolt escape..... "no its not op because I have died a couple of times using it"
Dude, I just told you of my exit strategy that doesn't involve speed, and with other sets and synergies I can tank like a mofo! I'm an NB, NB's can tank hard. Yes, Nights silence gimps you. Try playing with a set like the sentry set or stygian, is great for an NB and hits like a friggin freight train. I never said it's not OP because I have died. Again, you are implying things that aren't there, but then I'm not hiding from my play style or who I am.
Okay, I can see we have come to an impasse. You have decided that Nights Silence is to fast with vamp and think it deserves a nerf, Cool.
I think it doesn't need a nerf for <reasons and facts> which is cool too.
ZOS have decided you are right, you are the winner. Awesome, go pat yourself on the back. I'm not going to do that however, I do play with that set, it gimps my in many ways but I LOVE the playstyle. It's the only reason I'm still playing this game as it's the most FUN and ENJOYABLE way for me to play. If I stop enjoying it, I'll probably leave.
Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...1 -
glitchmaster999✭✭✭✭glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »I'm a v10 stamina nightblade and I used the nights silence, vampire combo to run faster than horses, don't kid yourself saying it doesn't need a nerf, I could literally one shot someone out of stealth with my two hander then be back at the keep by the time my invis ran out. When they took a scroll I could walk through the middle of countless reds and catch up the scroll runner, its broken as all hell and needs to be nerfed, horses should be fastest thing in the game by a long stretch.
Lie. Show me a video of this so called one shot... I have max spell damage AND magicka and do only about 1.2k damage (about a third of players health in PvP).
Lol max spell damage and magicka, try weapon damage, stamina and crit damage and you might see why.... wrecking blow does 5k in pve, only 1.8+ in pvp but still gets them low enough to insta burst.... if you havent tried it you should, I use dual wield resto in PVE and dual wield two hander in pvp
LOL... Concealed weapon is based on spell damage and magicka... Do you even ESO bro?
Then your build must be so *** because my concealed weapon hits for 1.6k all the time in pvp....... you must really suck and my heavy attacks out of sneak hit harder than that..... magicka spell power just doesnt sneak attack as hard as stamina....
Video or didn't happen
Go out, find a character that isnt wearing a stick and skirt, concealed weapon see how much you hit for, if its less than 1.4k you are doing sonething wrong
Magicka: 2330
Spell damage: 125
First was 1176 damage with concealed weapon from sneak
And I am playing without the set, and it's not fun... it's tedious
Then you are doing something terribly wrong I have 1100 magicka and harder than that with a flying blade..... what are you like lvl 12?0 -
glitchmaster999✭✭✭✭glitchmaster999 wrote: »
Lol as opposed to other nightblade dps sets that make you...... just as sqyishy, this isthe exact same attitude people had on bolt escape..... "no its not op because I have died a couple of times using it"
Dude, I just told you of my exit strategy that doesn't involve speed, and with other sets and synergies I can tank like a mofo! I'm an NB, NB's can tank hard. Yes, Nights silence gimps you. Try playing with a set like the sentry set or stygian, is great for an NB and hits like a friggin freight train. I never said it's not OP because I have died. Again, you are implying things that aren't there, but then I'm not hiding from my play style or who I am.
Okay, I can see we have come to an impasse. You have decided that Nights Silence is to fast with vamp and think it deserves a nerf, Cool.
I think it doesn't need a nerf for <reasons and facts> which is cool too.
ZOS have decided you are right, you are the winner. Awesome, go pat yourself on the back. I'm not going to do that however, I do play with that set, it gimps my in many ways but I LOVE the playstyle. It's the only reason I'm still playing this game as it's the most FUN and ENJOYABLE way for me to play. If I stop enjoying it, I'll probably leave.
Im sure bolt escapers loved their playstyle too... doesnt make it fair or ok0 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think OP is just a troll and dont even have a NB...
Yeah, given the claims OP has made in this thread, including:glitchmaster999 wrote: »...
1. Invis gives full sneak speed bonus in combat
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It is quite obvious that the OP also does not actually have any real experience with this set.
Neither Shadow Cloak nor Invisibility potions will activate Night's Silence bonus in combat.
Combat must be left in order to receive the Sneak speed bonus from the set.
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »I'm a v10 stamina nightblade and I used the nights silence, vampire combo to run faster than horses, don't kid yourself saying it doesn't need a nerf, I could literally one shot someone out of stealth with my two hander then be back at the keep by the time my invis ran out. When they took a scroll I could walk through the middle of countless reds and catch up the scroll runner, its broken as all hell and needs to be nerfed, horses should be fastest thing in the game by a long stretch.
Lie. Show me a video of this so called one shot... I have max spell damage AND magicka and do only about 1.2k damage (about a third of players health in PvP).
Lol max spell damage and magicka, try weapon damage, stamina and crit damage and you might see why.... wrecking blow does 5k in pve, only 1.8+ in pvp but still gets them low enough to insta burst.... if you havent tried it you should, I use dual wield resto in PVE and dual wield two hander in pvp
LOL... Concealed weapon is based on spell damage and magicka... Do you even ESO bro?
Then your build must be so *** because my concealed weapon hits for 1.6k all the time in pvp....... you must really suck and my heavy attacks out of sneak hit harder than that..... magicka spell power just doesnt sneak attack as hard as stamina....
Video or didn't happen
Go out, find a character that isnt wearing a stick and skirt, concealed weapon see how much you hit for, if its less than 1.4k you are doing sonething wrong
Magicka: 2330
Spell damage: 125
First was 1176 damage with concealed weapon from sneak
And I am playing without the set, and it's not fun... it's tedious
Then you are doing something terribly wrong I have 1100 magicka and harder than that with a flying blade..... what are you like lvl 12?
Vet12... and the numbers don't lie... there is nothing to "do wrong"
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glitchmaster999✭✭✭✭I think OP is just a troll and dont even have a NB...
Yeah, given the claims OP has made in this thread, including:glitchmaster999 wrote: »...
1. Invis gives full sneak speed bonus in combat
...
It is quite obvious that the OP also does not actually have any real experience with this set.
Neither Shadow Cloak nor Invisibility potions will activate Night's Silence bonus in combat.
Combat must be left in order to receive the Sneak speed bonus from the set.
I did say set doesnt work with invis but hey people on the forums dont read apparently...1 -
glitchmaster999✭✭✭✭glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »I'm a v10 stamina nightblade and I used the nights silence, vampire combo to run faster than horses, don't kid yourself saying it doesn't need a nerf, I could literally one shot someone out of stealth with my two hander then be back at the keep by the time my invis ran out. When they took a scroll I could walk through the middle of countless reds and catch up the scroll runner, its broken as all hell and needs to be nerfed, horses should be fastest thing in the game by a long stretch.
Lie. Show me a video of this so called one shot... I have max spell damage AND magicka and do only about 1.2k damage (about a third of players health in PvP).
Lol max spell damage and magicka, try weapon damage, stamina and crit damage and you might see why.... wrecking blow does 5k in pve, only 1.8+ in pvp but still gets them low enough to insta burst.... if you havent tried it you should, I use dual wield resto in PVE and dual wield two hander in pvp
LOL... Concealed weapon is based on spell damage and magicka... Do you even ESO bro?
Then your build must be so *** because my concealed weapon hits for 1.6k all the time in pvp....... you must really suck and my heavy attacks out of sneak hit harder than that..... magicka spell power just doesnt sneak attack as hard as stamina....
Video or didn't happen
Go out, find a character that isnt wearing a stick and skirt, concealed weapon see how much you hit for, if its less than 1.4k you are doing sonething wrong
Magicka: 2330
Spell damage: 125
First was 1176 damage with concealed weapon from sneak
And I am playing without the set, and it's not fun... it's tedious
Then you are doing something terribly wrong I have 1100 magicka and harder than that with a flying blade..... what are you like lvl 12?
Vet12... and the numbers don't lie... there is nothing to "do wrong"
Ill take screenshots when I get out of this lecture but I have never hit for less than 1k1 -
aco5712✭✭✭✭✭@akray21
I was getting 1.5k conc wep at vr12 pre new sets patch/raised caps >.>
Only running 133 spell dmg and 2k magicka.
Cant tell my conc wep numbers now because i dont open with it anymore but my ambush is hitting for 1.3-1.4k from stealth and ambush was always alot weaker then conc. wep.
And it is possible to one shot players with all the impene and stuff going around. Camo hunter crit ~1.1-1.2k + conc wep stealth crit ~1.6k-1.8k (havent tested) should get you near the 2.8-3k mark.
If your a 2h stam build.
Camo hunter crit ~1.1-1.2k + wrecking blow stealth crit ~2k (tested) will get you 3.2k, enough to kill alot of vamp players.
Edited by aco5712 on September 5, 2014 1:24AMBanned for Naming and Shaming exploiters. Great ideology ZOS.
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭@akray21
I was getting 1.5k conc wep at vr12 pre new sets patch/raised caps >.>
Only running 133 spell dmg and 2k magicka.
Cant tell my conc wep numbers now because i dont open with it anymore but my ambush is hitting for 1.3-1.4k from stealth and ambush was always alot weaker then conc. wep.
Are we talking about PvP? Because my numbers are a lot higher in PvE0 -
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✭✭✭I'd actually prefer if there were no horses. Skyrim was honestly more fun without them. Morrowind wouldn't have been the same with them. Horses are cool and all but its a bit cheesy how they magically appear like Silver (Lone Ranger's Horse). Horse combat would also make plenty of sense. I'd just rather they weren't there at all... for all those discussions about how sneaking and sprinting should never outdo horses. All that said horse speed is terribly slow, even with a fully maxed out horse (which I have). If it were faster though, it would shrink the world too much... So honestly I'd rather they were there at all.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
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aco5712✭✭✭✭✭@akray21
No purely pvp. Who even plays pve in this game? O.O
Pve numbers are like 3k conc wep or somethingBanned for Naming and Shaming exploiters. Great ideology ZOS.
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Hello,
We're closing this thread, because there is already a thread about this issue. You are welcome to continue posting there.
We published the following information in the linked thread:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys! Just want to let you know that this shouldn't actually be happening, and will be fixed once we release Update 4. Hope that clears up any confusion!
Thank you for your understanding!Edited by ZOS_JoanaL on September 5, 2014 1:42AM3
This discussion has been closed.