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What content should be focused on next?
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Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭1-12 player dedicated instances at various dungeons all over tamriel.
ie. Side quests.Edited by Rune_Relic on August 29, 2014 8:01AMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs Guild
You're pretty much describing Caldwell's silver & gold quests, moreover, you obviously fail to understand the meaning of en game content.
End game content is something you do once you've finished leveling, once you've finished the game, it's something you can repeat over and over again. Trials are endgame content, Arena is endgame content.
More story-lines and quests and singleplayer delves is an extension, not solo player endgame.
And I do hope there will be an extension and I hope ZOS spends months working on it so it's long and good, but don't call it solo end game and stop dreaming it's gonna happen any time soon. These things usually take 6 months -12 months to get released at the very least.1 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildNox_Aeterna wrote: »I hope they start to realise that is past the time to add a solo way to get to VR14.demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »I think Dark brotherhood would come included with thieves guild and justice system.
It does but OP is one of those persons who dislikes multiplayer content (in an MMORPG) and thus the post is biased
Did anyone here ask if you think we should have more solo content? No? Yeah that is what i thought.
We really dont care if you think MMORPG should focus only on group content mate , i will tell you again , there are tons of solo players and this game currently is lacking a lot on endgame for these players.
There is no such thing as ENDGAME for single players, please wake up!2 -
Laura✭✭✭✭✭
✭Player Housingwhat is single player end game? a new zone you will complete in less than four hours?
there is no such thing as "single player end game" in mmos the end game is group content and pvp.. I mean why are you playing a group game solo anyway? this game is almost entirely solo content to begin with.Edited by Laura on August 29, 2014 8:19AM3 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildWhat is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.1 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildWhat is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...Edited by TehMagnus on August 29, 2014 8:31AM3 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.Edited by Rune_Relic on August 29, 2014 8:38AMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem
. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case
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R1ckyDaMan✭✭✭✭Single Player EndgameWhy do people who play MMOs insist on single player content? There are single player games for that.... MMOs are for playing with other people...
You do not need to be forced to group to play with other people, I played solo to vet 10, helped a lot of people along the way, plenty of other players and a group was not forced.1 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭R1ckyDaMan wrote: »Why do people who play MMOs insist on single player content? There are single player games for that.... MMOs are for playing with other people...
You do not need to be forced to group to play with other people, I played solo to vet 10, helped a lot of people along the way, plenty of other players and a group was not forced.
I know.... MMO people just dont get it. They cant see beyond their guild.Anything that can be exploited will be exploited1 -
Pseudonym✭✭✭Player HousingI've chosen player housing for what I would like to see next, but as for what should be focused on; that's not how development works. It's not like they gather everyone together and say "let's do this now", each person has their own speciality, so if they were suddenly all focused on one thing, half of the team would be stood around waiting for who's-his-face, and so-and-so to finish what they're working on.
I guess the best analogy I can come up with is this. You have brick layers, electricians, plasterers and roofers, but they can't all work on the same project at once, because the plasterers and electricians can't work until the roof is on, and the roofers can't work until the brickwork is up.
Right now we probably have teams or individuals working on a bunch of different things; a constant team on bug fixing, another team on group content, some one solo content, perhaps even people laying the foundations for future content, like the Justice System and Player Housing.
I just wanted to clear that up for people who don't understand the industry.1 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.1 -
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✭Single Player EndgameI think I was truly spoiled by LOTRO. First having the luck of a great guild right off the bat in so far as groups. They were patient and it didnt matter if we spent 3 hours and didn't complete if we had new ppl in the run, what mattered was they understood the mechanics for next time.
As well, capping your level and getting skills wasn't based on group play, and da*n sure didn't send you into pvp land to attempt to quest where players could gank you. You grouped and raided for special gear, not because you were only allowed so much character building(levels, skills) before being forced into group/pvp zone to finish. As well once level capped there were a ton of daily quests just to earn your special jewelry sets.
I don't know how every other mmo works, and I expect ESO to have its own unique set-up. But if they can't figure out a way for me to cap off my toon itself without forcing into to group/pvp zone, then I'll go play where I can. Which is sad my biggest enjoyment is duo play with my husband. If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!1 -
Xeres14✭✭✭PvE(Group) EndgameThe long term success of this game is heavily influenced by PvE Group endgame content. That's not to say that should be ALL they work on, but it should be their primary focus.1
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MorHawk✭✭✭✭✭Didn't bother reading the whole thread, but yeah. Champion system's a serious omission. My personal top want is the improved facial animations, though there are still plenty of bugs to be dealt with.I can count to potato.
WWJLHD?Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »another topic that cant see past its own farts.0 -
Blooddancer✭✭✭I am going to be a Nelly-nay-sayer here, twice , so apologies in advance.
1. As old as it may seem a bit of stabilisation work needs to be done, there are many, many threads about this not working and complaining about new Vet levels. I might actually do a poll to see whether people think what exists is stable from a dev/ops point of view.
2. Secondly, and this is just a vent - I am beyond tired of people tossing out the "solo is a no go, this is an MMO, group or leave" sort of attitude. Aside from the "Play your own way" ethos, there is nothing wrong or weird about wanting to be in an MMO and play solo. MMOs provide the "option" to group and interact with others - OPTION, not dictate from the the MMO secret police.
ALSO - standalone games do not have the same level of ongoing development and increase in content, easily worth my hard earned bucks as the sub is far less than the price of a new game that I will finish in less than 40 hours.
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MorHawk✭✭✭✭✭Blooddancer wrote: »2. Secondly, and this is just a vent - I am beyond tired of people tossing out the "solo is a no go, this is an MMO, group or leave" sort of attitude.
As much as it feels counter-intuitive, and I've probably been one of those who've negligently tossed such complaints aside in the past, I have to admit that I understand this perspective far better now. I remember finishing FF7, I must have stared at that 'starfield simulator' thing for about 10 minutes as I digested the fact that I was done. All those characters I'd put blood, sweat and tears into building had just gone poof. I think I'd have sold my soul right there to have been given a persistent world to play around in, regardless of who else was there.I can count to potato.
WWJLHD?Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »another topic that cant see past its own farts.0 -
TheBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭Imperial City, or guilds.Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
Killed by Early Bright - Blood Flow - Magicka NB Build
Twitch - SunshineNB
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.
So first of all: Trials are raids in Eso ( I suggest you digest that while you think about what a plain dumb comment is).
Secondly, I already stated why single player trials/raids are never going to happen in this game: "People would cry because one class would always be able to clear the content faster than the others" anyone with common sense knows this, that's why Rune_Relic said that problem is classes are fixed and it's also why ZOS will never do it. Only way I see that happening is to make trials for each class and they won't spend dev resources to please 10% of the community with that.
Maybe the blokes that went to your house removed your ability to think rationally
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Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.
So first of all: Trials are raids in Eso ( I suggest you digest that while you think about what a plain dumb comment is).
Secondly, I already stated why single player trials/raids are never going to happen in this game: "People would cry because one class would always be able to clear the content faster than the others" anyone with common sense knows this, that's why Rune_Relic said that problem is classes are fixed and it's also why ZOS will never do it. Only way I see that happening is to make trials for each class and they won't spend dev resources to please 10% of the community with that.
Maybe the blokes that went to your house removed your ability to think rationally
Trials are not raids. The current trials are for raid groups, that's a huge difference. A raid group is a group of players that is larger than a standard group. I suggest you understand the terminology before you try to sound witty, since your only halfway there.Edited by Guppet on August 29, 2014 2:57PM0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildBlooddancer wrote: »
2. Secondly, and this is just a vent - I am beyond tired of people tossing out the "solo is a no go, this is an MMO, group or leave" sort of attitude. Aside from the "Play your own way" ethos, there is nothing wrong or weird about wanting to be in an MMO and play solo. MMOs provide the "option" to group and interact with others - OPTION, not dictate from the the MMO secret police.
ALSO -
Well if "solo is a no go, group or leave" wasn't the aim of the game, I suppose you could solo Craglorn. You can't so if you don't get the message the game-makers are sending you, nothing else that can be done for you.standalone games do not have the same level of ongoing development and increase in content, easily worth my hard earned bucks as the sub is far less than the price of a new game that I will finish in less than 40 hours.
You paid 60 to 84 euros for the game. If you've been playing since April, you allready paid 56 euros (aka the cost of a new game). From here till the new SP zone drops (whose content won't be larger than a DLC you'd pay 40 bucks for) it will probably be December or January so an other 56 euros give or take, which means you'll have paid at the very least 172 euros for a game that is only twice as long as Skyrim with a small SP expansion (Skyrim was about 75h of play, ESO was 150h). How long after that untill a new solo game zone is added?
Compared to a standalone SP game, you're actually loosing money (like any Soloplayer playing an MMO) and your bugs take 10x longer to get fixed.
On top of all that, you can add the fact you're not the prime concern of the game developpers who aim to please the crowd aka MMO players.
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.
So first of all: Trials are raids in Eso ( I suggest you digest that while you think about what a plain dumb comment is).
Secondly, I already stated why single player trials/raids are never going to happen in this game: "People would cry because one class would always be able to clear the content faster than the others" anyone with common sense knows this, that's why Rune_Relic said that problem is classes are fixed and it's also why ZOS will never do it. Only way I see that happening is to make trials for each class and they won't spend dev resources to please 10% of the community with that.
Maybe the blokes that went to your house removed your ability to think rationally
Trials are not raids. The current trials are for raid groups, that's a huge difference. A raid group is a group of players that is larger than a standard group. I suggest you understand the terminology before you try to sound witty, since your only halfway there.
So what is a trial then? Content made for a raid group?
A trial for a single player has no sense. You can debate all you want about terminology or the use of words, it doesn't make that fact less true
I rest my case.
Edited by TehMagnus on August 29, 2014 3:00PM1 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.
So first of all: Trials are raids in Eso ( I suggest you digest that while you think about what a plain dumb comment is).
Secondly, I already stated why single player trials/raids are never going to happen in this game: "People would cry because one class would always be able to clear the content faster than the others" anyone with common sense knows this, that's why Rune_Relic said that problem is classes are fixed and it's also why ZOS will never do it. Only way I see that happening is to make trials for each class and they won't spend dev resources to please 10% of the community with that.
Maybe the blokes that went to your house removed your ability to think rationally
Trials are not raids. The current trials are for raid groups, that's a huge difference. A raid group is a group of players that is larger than a standard group. I suggest you understand the terminology before you try to sound witty, since your only halfway there.
Oh and btw, if you still want to play with words, definition of raids taken from wikipedia:A raid is a type of mission in a video game in which either a very large number of people (larger than the normal team size set by the game), or a small number of people with exceptional skill, attempt to defeat a boss monster of a higher magnitude of difficulty than other monsters found within the game world. This type of objective is most common in MMORPGs, where the servers are designed to handle the number of users. In RTS games like StarCraft, the term is used differently; see Raid (military).
"small number of people with exceptional skill" can apply to one player with exceptional skill.
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✭Single Player EndgameMy vote is difficult single player content that will try a person's abilities and patience. As - or hopefully more - difficult than pre-nerf VR so I can have challenging and rewarding content when my guild isn't running trials.Edited by BBSooner on August 29, 2014 3:06PM0 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.
So first of all: Trials are raids in Eso ( I suggest you digest that while you think about what a plain dumb comment is).
Secondly, I already stated why single player trials/raids are never going to happen in this game: "People would cry because one class would always be able to clear the content faster than the others" anyone with common sense knows this, that's why Rune_Relic said that problem is classes are fixed and it's also why ZOS will never do it. Only way I see that happening is to make trials for each class and they won't spend dev resources to please 10% of the community with that.
Maybe the blokes that went to your house removed your ability to think rationally
Trials are not raids. The current trials are for raid groups, that's a huge difference. A raid group is a group of players that is larger than a standard group. I suggest you understand the terminology before you try to sound witty, since your only halfway there.
So what is a trial then? Content made for a raid group?
A trial for a single player has no sense. You can debate all you want about terminology or the use of words, it doesn't make that fact less true
I rest my case.
A trial is just that, a series of events you complete. It could be done solo in a group, however you like. The new arena could be classed as group trials, notice that's not a raid.
Also if you have completed Reapers Marsh, you should know the game already has the justification for it, in a single player format.
I do take on board that they would need to balance the classes or have class based leaderboards. That could work though.
Also, if it's only done by 10% of players (I'd say it would be nearer 60%), it's still going to be content for more players than the current raid group trials.0 -
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✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildRune_Relic wrote: »What is "single player endgame" xD. Thread is so biased. I want more lore, a new epic story with quests, but SP endgame is just ridiculous. "Yai let's create a raid for one person only and add leader boards t it"
You may have said that in jest, but if they added a single player trial, with a leaderboard, that would probably be the most hotly contested thing ever added to an MMO. Everyone could try it and the prestige for being top would be immense.
It's a ridiculous idea because there is no way to balance it for all the classes and people would just QQ because their class can't hope to compete with that other class and they will never get top position in leader-boards. I can already see the crying and the rage in the forums
Get real...
I see no problem. You just have to make a solo generalist instead of a group specialist. Oh wait....you cant...the classes are fixed.
You see no problem and then you see the problem. Classes are fixed in 90% of the games, and by games I mean MMORPGs. Cleary the game is not intended to have total balance between classes (good, how dull would that be?).
Which is what you lot forget you're playing.
There will never ever EVER be a solo raid in this game and if by some highly unlikely chance there is (like the devs making a bet to randomly pick one idea amongst the worst ideas that come daily in the forums and try to implement it), you'll never EVER EVER have leaderboards for it and it will be ridiculously easy because let's face it, people who play alone are hardly even good @ these games which is most of the times why they play alone (except those who can't stand people or have a condition, then again, you guys should avoid playing online multiplayer games if it's the case ).
Wow so much hate for someone's idea. I was not aware the idea had also sent out some burly blokes to come to your house to feel you up, but I guess it must have, judging by your reaction.
Also some of your comments are plain dumb. It would not be a single player raid, that's not possible or even suggested, it's a trial, very different thing. Also it would, I suspect, also be completed by players that also group for other things, crazy I know.
So first of all: Trials are raids in Eso ( I suggest you digest that while you think about what a plain dumb comment is).
Secondly, I already stated why single player trials/raids are never going to happen in this game: "People would cry because one class would always be able to clear the content faster than the others" anyone with common sense knows this, that's why Rune_Relic said that problem is classes are fixed and it's also why ZOS will never do it. Only way I see that happening is to make trials for each class and they won't spend dev resources to please 10% of the community with that.
Maybe the blokes that went to your house removed your ability to think rationally
Trials are not raids. The current trials are for raid groups, that's a huge difference. A raid group is a group of players that is larger than a standard group. I suggest you understand the terminology before you try to sound witty, since your only halfway there.
So what is a trial then? Content made for a raid group?
A trial for a single player has no sense. You can debate all you want about terminology or the use of words, it doesn't make that fact less true
I rest my case.
A trial is just that, a series of events you complete. It could be done solo in a group, however you like. The new arena could be classed as group trials, notice that's not a raid.
Also if you have completed Reapers Marsh, you should know the game already has the justification for it, in a single player format.
I do take on board that they would need to balance the classes or have class based leaderboards. That could work though.
Also, if it's only done by 10% of players (I'd say it would be nearer 60%), it's still going to be content for more players than the current raid group trials.
Not really, if it's single player endgame and single players are stuck at VR10, it means the content would be for VR14 at the very least. So none of the 10% of the solo players that populate this MMO could partake in the challenge.
That and once again, they'll never do it because of the reasons I've stated 2x already.Edited by TehMagnus on August 29, 2014 3:42PM0 -
spoqster✭✭✭✭✭Justice System, Thiefs GuildOther than the justice system, I think they should rework the trading system. The current system is horrible.0
