Update on Nightblade Shadow Cloak bugs.

Samadhi · August 2014

So, it is a known and acknowledged fact that Nightblade's Shadow Cloak skill and its morphs Dark Cloak and Shadowy Disguise have had a number of long-standing bugs.
A small handful of bugs have been fixed, which is great.

Unfortunately, a number of bugs still remain.
In particular, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ posted about a couple of them on May 22nd, 2014.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Incoming Fixes & Improvements
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Outstanding Known Issues
Patch 1.1.2 fixed many outstanding Nightblade issues, but below are some that we are either actively investigating, working on fixes for now, or have recently fixed and will push in a future patch. Please note this list does not reflect every reported Nightblade issue we are currently investigating.

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.

Dark Cloak (Shadow Cloak morph): Dark Cloak is not currently removing damage-over-time (DoT) debuffs as it should be. We’re currently investigating this issue to determine which DoTs are not being removed by Dark Cloak.
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Thread available here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

Since May 22nd, there have been no further updates with regards to progress on these long-standing bugs.

Can we get an update on these acknowledged unintended bugs?

Will we be seeing a fix for them soon, such as in 1.4?
Will the fix still take longer than that? If so, can we get a time-frame and information as to why?
Is the bug team making any progress on these issues? Do they need more information from players?

I'd be willing to compile a list of DoT skills that are adversely impacting Shadow Cloak if that is necessary to seeing these bugs get fixed.
In their current incarnation these bugs are having an adverse effect on players and still need to be fixed.

Renuo · August 2014

Yes it is still bugged since forever.

Samadhi · August 2014

Short list of DoTs and their status relative to Shadow Cloak.

DoT effects that do not currently break invisibility:
The AoE Bleeding effect caused by Lotus Fan (Nightblade Assassination line)
The Poison effect caused by Poison Arrow and morphs (Bow weapon line)
The Poison effect caused by Lethal Arrow (morph of Snipe) (Bow weapon line)
The AoE Bleeding effect caused by Cleave and morphs (Two Handed weapon line)
The Bleeding effect caused by Two Handed passive Heavy Weapons when an Axe is equipped
The Bleeding effect caused by Twin Slashes and morphs (Dual Wield line)
The Bleeding effect caused by Twin Blade and Blunt (Dual Wield line) with axe equipped
The Burning effect caused by Fiery Impulse (Destruction Staff line)
Soul Trap (Soul Magic line)
Veil of Blades (Nightblade Shadow ultimate)

I am glad that some progress seems to have been made in terms of bleeding effects working with invisibility, even if it has not been put into patch notes.

DoT effects that break invisibility when they tick:
Agony (Nightblade Siphoning line) and morph Prolonged Suffering
Cripple (Nighblade Siphoning line) and morphs Crippling Grasp and Debilitate
Path of Darkness (Nightblade Shadow line) and morphs Twisting Path and Refreshing Path
Caltrops (Alliance War Line)
Wall of Elements (Destruction Staff line) I didn't test the morphs

I find it unfortunate that the Nightblade Siphoning skills are still broken, as they were the skills that I first wrote my original /bug report over back in April.

I'm also not clear on why the listed AoE DoT effects do not work with Invisibility, even though the AoE DoT Veil of Blades does work.

The inconsistencies are troubling.

Special cases with notes:
Vampire Ultimate Bat Swarm
This breaks Nightblade invisibility.
I find this ironic, because the morph Clouding Swarm provides an invisibility effect that does not break for the entire duration and freely allows the casting of other skills without breaking invisibility (unlike Nightblade invisibility, which removes the Nightblade from invisibility with every skill cast).

Soul Tether (Nightblade Siphoning Ultimate)
The DoT lifesteal ticks break invisibility; I think this may be intended due to it applying as direct damage and tethering to the Nightblade

Entropy (Mages Guild line)
This one is interesting because the DoT appears to work fine with invisibility, however when the 6 second HoT timer ticks it seems to break invisibility.

I probably missed a few effects, so if anyone would like to chime in please feel free.
I'm actually really pleased that this test revealed some behind-the-scenes progress being made in terms of the Bleeding effects at very least.

Samadhi · August 2014

I'm working on finding a Nightblade with Dark Cloak in their build that will let me test these DoT effects and see precisely which ones are having issues with not being removed.

Hopefully I will be able to update with a list for that issue at some point as well.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Oh they are too busy destroying the stealth speed synergy for night's silence to actually fix the Nightblades.

hammer_fella · August 2014

Samadhi wrote: »

I'm working on finding a Nightblade with Dark Cloak in their build that will let me test these DoT effects and see precisely which ones are having issues with not being removed.

Hopefully I will be able to update with a list for that issue at some point as well.

I'd be willing to assist if you still need help. This remains the most critical problem affecting my NB and aggravates me to no end. How INVISIBILITY, the very core of nearly any classic NB build, can go unfixed for so long, is baffling to me.

stewie_801 · August 2014

Samadhi wrote: »

I'm working on finding a Nightblade with Dark Cloak in their build that will let me test these DoT effects and see precisely which ones are having issues with not being removed.

Hopefully I will be able to update with a list for that issue at some point as well.

I can also help test this too. Im on NA EP side if you happen to be AD or DC.

Samadhi · August 2014

hammer_fella wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

I'm working on finding a Nightblade with Dark Cloak in their build that will let me test these DoT effects and see precisely which ones are having issues with not being removed.

Hopefully I will be able to update with a list for that issue at some point as well.

I'd be willing to assist if you still need help. This remains the most critical problem affecting my NB and aggravates me to no end. How INVISIBILITY, the very core of nearly any classic NB build, can go unfixed for so long, is baffling to me.

stewie_801 wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

I'm working on finding a Nightblade with Dark Cloak in their build that will let me test these DoT effects and see precisely which ones are having issues with not being removed.

Hopefully I will be able to update with a list for that issue at some point as well.

I can also help test this too. Im on NA EP side if you happen to be AD or DC.

I'm currently working on convincing my girlfriend to test with me so that I can monitor both computers while testing, but if she doesn't go for it I'll be sure to drop either or both of you a line.
Thank you very much for your offers to help out.

ers101284b14_ESO · August 2014

I know they have a new update on the PTS but can't remember if they said anything about it on there.

Samadhi · September 2014

Another PTS patch went up.

Still no notes about fixing either of these issues.

I was busy over the weekend, but will hopefully get Dark Cloak formally tested towards the end of this week.
It's not as high on my priority list as my own DoTs breaking invisibility is. I use Shadowy Disguise morph personally.
I still plan to get to it though.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · September 2014

Just curious, should dark cloak remove the marked target debuff? because it doesn't, but purge/cleanse does.

Samadhi · September 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Just curious, should dark cloak remove the marked target debuff? because it doesn't, but purge/cleanse does.

I generally think it is not meant to.

When choosing a morph, the "New Effect" listed for Dark Cloak does say that it removes negative effects.
After morphing the skill, it says it removes 4 damage over time effects specifically.

As Marked status is not a damage over time, I do not think it is supposed to get removed.

By contrast, Purge refers to negative effects in general.