NB strife/swallow soul a bit over the top?

  • Code2501
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    YuccaPalm wrote: »
    It costs 280 magicka and does 1.5k dmg over 10 sec and heals 1/3 of its dmg (without spell dmg glyphs) + its 30 meter range.

    Don't know what you're on... but please share.
    Strife is a instant direct damage spell. No dot. The hot is for 25pct of the damge per 2 seconds.
    In short, you're either just making stuff up or you're using a borked combat mod.
  • ZOS_RobinsonE
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    Hello everyone,

    To clarify, Strife is a projectile that inflicts direct damage. Then it heals the caster for 25% of this damage every 2 seconds. So the spell is not a dot, but a direct damage ability that grants the caster a Healing-over-Time effect.
    Edited by ZOS_RobinsonE on August 27, 2014 3:20AM
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  • Tapio75
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    Swallow soul+Drain essence=Winwin <3

    Instant damage on Swallow soul, heal over time and the heal is not that strong either. It is a good skill but does not feel that powerful.
    Edited by Tapio75 on August 27, 2014 1:05AM
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  • Code2501
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    sagitter wrote: »
    Erlindur wrote: »
    sagitter wrote: »
    Tryed both with shadow barrier buff on and off, and nothing changed. with some mob health return is correct , with others isn t.

    Before last patch it only happened sometimes, but now really often.
    Here is a screenshot:
    postimg.org/image/wkdvslmbd/

    Ah, it was just an idea. Thanks for taking the time to check it or else it would have bugged me till I finally return home :)


    K after some more test, it seems that if u start the fight with swallow soul, hidden or not , it is always bugged.

    Yes it's bugged. It currently heals for 25pct of the damage dealt immediately prior to the spell landing.
    If you open with it it won't heal.
    If you use it after a 100 dmg light attack it heals for 25 health per tick.
    If you soam it twice it will heal as expected.
    And if you use it after a 2k dmg stealth open it will heal for 500 per tick.

    Its been /bugged many times, yet we still have DKs sulking when we ask for our class skills to be fixed.
  • jelliedsoup
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    Heal over time. I use it with my bow and dw the nb needs some healing against all the silly op healing other classes have.
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  • xaraan
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    I've found this spell to be fairly weak as a heal, it's ok as a damage dealer if you pump all your jewelry into spell damage to build it up. However, it does not do Damage over time, it does damage once and the heals the player for several seconds spread out - not enough of a heal to actually save you if you are taking any real damage.
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  • Artis
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    Barely healing me when I'm tanking. Have both of them on my bar.. They need to be buffed, actually
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    Artemis wrote: »
    Barely healing me when I'm tanking. Have both of them on my bar.. They need to be buffed, actually

    That's an interesting accomplishment since they're both morphs of the same skill.

    Yes the HoT on this is, surprise surprise, bugged. But the way most NBs play this it's not an issue (spam spam spam). If you make a caster build this is a very powerful skill. In fact it's the only skill a lot of NBs use in PvP.

    Here's the tactic for a caster NB in PvP (well a very common one):
    1. Hold block
    2. Spam Swallow Soul
    3. Win

    This skill can be spammed very quicky. Much quicker than any other skill I've seen. If you have a caster build you can hit for 5-700+ (if you pump magicka right up and max spell damage it can go a fair bit higher) and throw out 3 per second. It's extremely boring and cheesy but very effective.
  • Spangla
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    Here's the tactic for a caster NB in PvP (well a very common one):
    1. Hold block
    2. Spam Swallow Soul
    3. Win

    LOL - Cast reflective scales. Instantly counters this skill and pretty much everything else ranged. Whilst your DK carries on tanking 6 people whilst holding block and spamming greendragon blood.

    = win.

    There is a reason why 95% of pvp emperors have been dk's. Problem is dk's cry the most on the forum and feel an intrinsic right to be the most powerful class

    Edited by Spangla on August 27, 2014 10:15AM
  • dsalter
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    the skill hurts and heals more then you think. i'v been ruined with swallow soul many times, nothing else just swallow soul spam, it usually hits in the 400 range per cast and seems to heal them for about 250 every cast as well, tried escaping (not bolt escape that actually works) but it's instant and spammable, tried engaging them, results in you dying to a blocking soul spam NB, tried CCing him hard, didn't matter he kept healing and thats if they weren't blocking, the blocking ones are worse then DK's.
    seems either diseased effect from enchant doesnt work or it heals and ignores it as if i come up to a soul spam NB i can only do one thing, and thats to attempt to break combat with him using an invisibility potion and hightailing it out of there in stealth.

    it comes down to them scaling quite high with it's spam and the fact you can cast+block at the exact same time with no penalty
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  • Jaxom
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    Hello everyone,

    To clarify, Strife is a projectile that inflicts direct damage. Then it heals the caster for 25% of this damage every 2 seconds. So the spell is not a dot, but a direct damage ability that grants the caster a Healing-over-Time effect.

    That's what the tooltip says, but not how it works. The skill has been broken since beta. The Healing-over-Time effect is actually based on the damage done by the most previous attack used, not by Strife and can be repeated over and over again. It's been bug reported numerous times. You can have the heal tick for 20 or 400 depending what you do. The skill is broken.
  • Auric_ESO
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    You people are all wrong. Including you so called zos employee. It does 3k damage 3k dot and heals you for about 1k and has no cool down and cost 132 Magika
    Edited by Auric_ESO on August 27, 2014 1:29PM
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  • yiasemi
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    Keeps me alive. I rarely use soul gems anymore. :# NB med armour DW since before the launch.
    Edited by yiasemi on August 27, 2014 2:43PM
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