The 11th race.

phaneub17_ESO · August 2014

You know there are other sentient races in this world like from the Akaviri Isle and other beast races like the Sload.

FreedomDude · August 2014

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

There is only a small pocket of Falmer left...

In order to play as the Chimer ZOS would need to remove the Dunmer and change Nirns history.

Carnagan · August 2014

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

You know there are other sentient races in this world like from the Akaviri Isle and other beast races like the Sload.

The Akaviri aren't a great example, as the continent has had bad experiences with them and is likely unwilling to be very accepting of them. Especially in the Pact, which has suffered two invasions. The rest of the Provinces also have bad memories of the Akaviri because of the Potentate.

And the Sload... well, the Sload would never be player characters. They have no word for Adventure in their language. The closest word translates to "Tragic Mistake". Their mythic villains are defined by acting quickly and failing as a result.

They lack actual emotions too and approach everything with cold logic. Finally, there are apparently no upper limits to how long they can live, which is why they are so cautious. They can live forever unless they die from misadventure, so you aren't going to see them getting into combat.

And then there was that time that they tried to decimate Tamriel with a specially engineered plague and the resulting all nation fleet that decided to return the favour. Some bad blood among the Tamrielics about that.

I wouldn't mind seeing Imga or the other varieties of Khajiit or Argonians.

Carnagan · August 2014

FreedomDude wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

There is only a small pocket of Falmer left...

In order to play as the Chimer ZOS would need to remove the Dunmer and change Nirns history.

Technically there are still three Chimer around. But something tells me that ZOS isn't going to let anyone play as one of the Tribunal.

And yeah, the Falmer have too low numbers to provide a basis of a player race, to say nothing of the discovery of one would catch the notice of EVERYONE.

Electric Feel · August 2014

I would love to see and play ANY new race that has a completely separate story line and maybe could not (at this time) even interact or even know of any of the current races that are now in the game, the developers could then months maybe even a year down the road unite the two worlds together through either some great world saving cause or more likely throw the 2 sides at one another in an epic battle for the history books.

gurluasb16_ESO · August 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

Only two uncorrupted Falmer in existence, and they live deep in a cave in Skyrim. Cathnoquey and its Chimer is not official lore.

That's in the Fourth age. The Chantry is pristine with a full Snow elf population at the time of ESO, so Snow elves are possible.

And Cathnoquey is canon.

UrQuan · August 2014

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

Only two uncorrupted Falmer in existence, and they live deep in a cave in Skyrim. Cathnoquey and its Chimer is not official lore.

That's in the Fourth age. The Chantry is pristine with a full Snow elf population at the time of ESO, so Snow elves are possible.

And Cathnoquey is canon.

We don't know the exact timeline of when the uncorrupted Falmer of the Forgotten Vale were wiped out.

All we know for sure is that the corrupted Falmer began to be corrupted while the Dwemer were still around, as they were already much changed by the time they rebelled against them and waged war on them. The Dwemer vanished in 1E 700, by which time the Falmer of the Chantry were already the only uncorrupted members of their race.

We know that at some point after this the corrupted Falmer ventured from their Dwemer lairs and began raiding the Nords of Skyrim (this eventually passed into legend, but we know that raids by twisted Falmer were reported before the beginning of the 2E). We also know that at some point the corrupted Falmer wiped out the uncorrupted Falmer of the Forgotten Vale. What we don't know is exactly when this happened. Given that ESO is set almost 3000 years after the Dwemer disappeared, and the corrupted Falmer were no longer occupied with fighting them, it seems highly likely that the invasion of the Forgotten Vale has already occurred by the time of ESO.

As far as Cathnoquey goes, yes it is canon that it exists between Tamriel and Akavir, and that it was conquered by Uriel Septim V. As far as I'm aware absolutely nothing else about it is canon.

AngryNord · August 2014

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

And Cathnoquey is canon.

The _island_ is canon. Not the chimer living there.

gurluasb16_ESO · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

Only two uncorrupted Falmer in existence, and they live deep in a cave in Skyrim. Cathnoquey and its Chimer is not official lore.

That's in the Fourth age. The Chantry is pristine with a full Snow elf population at the time of ESO, so Snow elves are possible.

And Cathnoquey is canon.

We don't know the exact timeline of when the uncorrupted Falmer of the Forgotten Vale were wiped out.

All we know for sure is that the corrupted Falmer began to be corrupted while the Dwemer were still around, as they were already much changed by the time they rebelled against them and waged war on them. The Dwemer vanished in 1E 700, by which time the Falmer of the Chantry were already the only uncorrupted members of their race.

We know that at some point after this the corrupted Falmer ventured from their Dwemer lairs and began raiding the Nords of Skyrim (this eventually passed into legend, but we know that raids by twisted Falmer were reported before the beginning of the 2E). We also know that at some point the corrupted Falmer wiped out the uncorrupted Falmer of the Forgotten Vale. What we don't know is exactly when this happened. Given that ESO is set almost 3000 years after the Dwemer disappeared, and the corrupted Falmer were no longer occupied with fighting them, it seems highly likely that the invasion of the Forgotten Vale has already occurred by the time of ESO.

As far as Cathnoquey goes, yes it is canon that it exists between Tamriel and Akavir, and that it was conquered by Uriel Septim V. As far as I'm aware absolutely nothing else about it is canon.

I stand corrected, not due to your proof which is speculation, and ingame events actually goes against it...But one tiny event makes it clear the Chantry is already gone. Gelebor claims that Vyrthur was corrupted by the Falmer. We know the prophecy Vyrthur made when he was a vampire was made in the First age, because that is when the Volkihar got hold of it.

So yes the Chantry has unfortunately already fallen

That means the possibility of playable Snow elves rely on other possibly holdouts.

UrQuan · August 2014

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

Only two uncorrupted Falmer in existence, and they live deep in a cave in Skyrim. Cathnoquey and its Chimer is not official lore.

That's in the Fourth age. The Chantry is pristine with a full Snow elf population at the time of ESO, so Snow elves are possible.

And Cathnoquey is canon.

We don't know the exact timeline of when the uncorrupted Falmer of the Forgotten Vale were wiped out.

All we know for sure is that the corrupted Falmer began to be corrupted while the Dwemer were still around, as they were already much changed by the time they rebelled against them and waged war on them. The Dwemer vanished in 1E 700, by which time the Falmer of the Chantry were already the only uncorrupted members of their race.

We know that at some point after this the corrupted Falmer ventured from their Dwemer lairs and began raiding the Nords of Skyrim (this eventually passed into legend, but we know that raids by twisted Falmer were reported before the beginning of the 2E). We also know that at some point the corrupted Falmer wiped out the uncorrupted Falmer of the Forgotten Vale. What we don't know is exactly when this happened. Given that ESO is set almost 3000 years after the Dwemer disappeared, and the corrupted Falmer were no longer occupied with fighting them, it seems highly likely that the invasion of the Forgotten Vale has already occurred by the time of ESO.

As far as Cathnoquey goes, yes it is canon that it exists between Tamriel and Akavir, and that it was conquered by Uriel Septim V. As far as I'm aware absolutely nothing else about it is canon.

I stand corrected, not due to your proof which is speculation, and ingame events actually goes against it...But one tiny event makes it clear the Chantry is already gone. Gelebor claims that Vyrthur was corrupted by the Falmer. We know the prophecy Vyrthur made when he was a vampire was made in the First age, because that is when the Volkihar got hold of it.

So yes the Chantry has unfortunately already fallen That means the possibility of playable Snow elves rely on other possibly holdouts.

Actually, though highly suggestive that the Chantry was already overrun in the first era (and a point that I had forgotten), that's speculation too.

The reason it's not definitive proof is that although Gelebor believes that the corrupted Falmer are to blame for Vyrthur's fall to evil (which would have prompted him to create the prophecy), Vyrthur himself tells you that he was infected with vampirism by one of his own initiates. That would have had to have happened at some point prior to the corrupted Falmer invading, and that's what truly began his fall to evil, as he felt that Auri-El had abandoned him.

As such, if he was able to hide his vampirism from his fellow uncorrupted Falmer (which is perfectly plausible - people seem to hide vampirism all the time in TES games) it's very possible that he created and disseminated the prophecy before the corrupted Falmer invaded. In fact, it's more likely that things occurred in this order, as it would have been more difficult for him to spread the prophecy after the Vale had been overrun (unless he was relying on it happening to show up in readings of the Elder Scrolls by moth priests, but that seems like a bad way to get the word out).

So there's still no definitive proof, but it's highly likely that the destruction of the uncorrupted Falmer in the Chantry happened relatively close in time to when Vyrthur created the prophecy, and we know the prophecy was around in the first era. So yeah, it's highly highly likely that there are only 2 uncorrupted Falmer (one of whom is undead) in the Forgotten Vale by the time of ESO.

AlexDougherty · August 2014

Carnagan wrote: »

FreedomDude wrote: »

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

I'd rather see Maormer , Falmer (Non-corrupted), and Chimer (The uncorrupted ones from Cathnoquey).

There is only a small pocket of Falmer left...

In order to play as the Chimer ZOS would need to remove the Dunmer and change Nirns history.

Technically there are still three Chimer around. But something tells me that ZOS isn't going to let anyone play as one of the Tribunal.

Actually the status of the Tribunal is suspect, while they can appear as Chimer, there is a theory that they are using illusion magic, and are actually Dunmer like their followers.

Also if I remember right only Almaxia looks Chimer, while Vivec looks half Chimer half Dunmer, and Sotha Sil looks completely Dunmer.

nerevarine1138 · August 2014

Why can't people use the search function on this forum?

In order of worst-to-worstest, here are the reasons that the races everyone wants to add don't work:

Falmer- There are maybe a handful of them. So unless you plan on only letting a handful of players create them (which I'm sure would go over swimmingly with this crowd), no.
Chimer- There are three of them. That's it. Nope.
Akaviri- While I foresee a potential expansion taking us to Akavir, the notion that we could have hordes of Akaviri swarming over Tamriel at this point is a little ridiculous. And let's face it, you just want the samurai-esque style armor. No.
Daedra- For all the reasons brought up in this thread, but here's a brief rundown. Bound to their prince. In the event they do rebel, they have to be summoned to Mundus. In the event they're summoned to Mundus, they're bound to the one who summoned them. Trust me, if Dremora could take over the world, don't you think they would have done it by now? Their power is limited. Not gonna happen.
Ayleid- They're dead, and the survivors have been bred out. No.
Dwemer- The worst of the worst suggestions. They're gone. There's literally one Dwemer left alive, and you really don't want to be him. That's a big, fat "Nope."

yiasemi · August 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Why can't people use the search function on this forum?

In order of worst-to-worstest, here are the reasons that the races everyone wants to add don't work:

Falmer- There are maybe a handful of them. So unless you plan on only letting a handful of players create them (which I'm sure would go over swimmingly with this crowd), no.
Chimer- There are three of them. That's it. Nope.
Akaviri- While I foresee a potential expansion taking us to Akavir, the notion that we could have hordes of Akaviri swarming over Tamriel at this point is a little ridiculous. And let's face it, you just want the samurai-esque style armor. No.
Daedra- For all the reasons brought up in this thread, but here's a brief rundown. Bound to their prince. In the event they do rebel, they have to be summoned to Mundus. In the event they're summoned to Mundus, they're bound to the one who summoned them. Trust me, if Dremora could take over the world, don't you think they would have done it by now? Their power is limited. Not gonna happen.
Ayleid- They're dead, and the survivors have been bred out. No.
Dwemer- The worst of the worst suggestions. They're gone. There's literally one Dwemer left alive, and you really don't want to be him. That's a big, fat "Nope."

There would be Akaviri sailors in every port. It's just game restrictions not allowing them. But for the sake of your relationship I must state that The Nerevarine knows no sailors in any port. Official canon.

AzureButterfly · August 2014

To be fair - the liminal barrier was damaged by the soulburst, so it'd be a lot easier for a Dremora to stay on Nirn for an extended period of time.

Playable Sload would be the best though. The quest giver asks you to save her son but your only option is to say "nah" and have your skeletal minions carry you away. (You only gain XP for sitting around doing nothing.)