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PVP has way to much CC
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Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Luvsfuzzybunnies wrote: »skwornub18_ESO wrote: »Luvsfuzzybunnies wrote: »skwornub18_ESO wrote: »h1roshim4_ESO wrote: »From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you only get CC immunity if you break the CC. Letting it run it's course doesn't grant immunity.
I understand it that one gains immunity after CC fades even if he does not break out and I am inclined to say it actually triggers in the game (at least sometimes), but...
Templar jabs definitely do not trigger CC immunity (hence dreaded stun lock) despite being count as CC, as implied by the fact CC immune target can not be knocked back.
Eclipse (CC breakable skill) most likely does not trigger immunity neither, but, remarkably, can not be cast on knocked down target as though target had immunity from the moment he was knocked down, while Eclipse itself can be immediately followed by knockdown (not that there is point in doing it).
So, there are obviously many ifs attached, if not outright bugs.
Funny I am a Templar and I find the last hit on Bitting Jabs rarely stuns a opponent like it should. Don't get me wrong it is wicked when it actually does stun but more often than not it doesn't. I have lost count of the number of Mages blinking away and NBs disappearing precisely because Biting Jabs failed to stun on last hit.
You can cc break biting jabs which is what the sorc or nb has done to accomplish their escape skill.
Which makes my point that biting jabs does not stun lock like some here try to say it does.
Then that's true about all cc. Yes there are cases when you can't break out of CC and biting jabs does in fact have this issue as well some people know how to exploit it some dont. In your case you don't which isn't a bad thing cause by the tone your posts have been taking it seems like you think you are entitled to an unbreakable stun.
OMG read what I wrote I do not want an unbreakable stun I want others unbreakable stuns to stop. I have no idea what you are reading but I never asked for any such thing. In fact I pointed out I do not have one and want others to stop having it.
I said Bitting Jabs has never done it when i used it I and never asked it to do it. That others say it does as a reason to keep CC is *** and all I did was point out I have never seen it now talons on the other hand does it more often than not. Read my posts I am asking for CC to get removed / toned down never for me to have any. What are you reading???
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✭✭✭✭That falls under unbreakable CC that I listed, I've encountered NBs/bow users that as you say are able to perma CC me in the kneeling animation. I didn't list that alongside knockdown+stun as I'm not sure of the exact effect causing it.POST EQVITEM SEDET ATRA CVRA
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SeltzerDuke✭✭✭
What we really need in pvp is QQ immunity.skwornub18_ESO wrote: »The amount of CC in the game is insane, considering the mechanic doesn't even work right and people are constantly being perma CC'd or the supposed immunity just rarely if ever works perhaps it is time to consider just reducing the amount of CC in The game. Being stunned all the time is not a fun way to fight.
Please consider reducing the amount of CC in the game or add some sort of "reducing returns" on it over time. Currently it is very frustrating and just not a fun mechanic.
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If they nerf CC they also have to nerf stuff like blocking, absorbs etc since you'd never be able to kill anyone in this game.
I'll give you that Roots probably need a CC immunity timer since sometimes having to roll 3-4 times to get away from a DK gets old pretty quickly.
Be careful with your Stamina and just break the CC. Blocking prevents a lot of CC too.
The unbreakable CC is a bug that will get fixed eventually.
Edit: Just try to count yourself how many times anyone is CCd for more than half a second in this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYyLUnUMKEQ#t=55s
(the overly epic music is an inside-joke btw, oh well... :P)
Getting spammed by biting jabs gets old even quicker. Not targeted towards you so you know.Edited by james_vestbergb16_ESO on August 25, 2014 12:44AM0 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SeltzerDuke wrote: »
What we really need in pvp is QQ immunity.skwornub18_ESO wrote: »The amount of CC in the game is insane, considering the mechanic doesn't even work right and people are constantly being perma CC'd or the supposed immunity just rarely if ever works perhaps it is time to consider just reducing the amount of CC in The game. Being stunned all the time is not a fun way to fight.
Please consider reducing the amount of CC in the game or add some sort of "reducing returns" on it over time. Currently it is very frustrating and just not a fun mechanic.
With all due respect if you are not going to add to the conversation in a positive manner why post? Disagreeing is natural all you did was insult and create a post bait to cause ill will.3 -
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✭More often than not, Bitting Jabs/Puncturing Sweep, will not knockback.
The reason is people are moving around easily or block during the duration of the spell that is broken to boot.
It supposed to have casting time 1.1s and the last attack is 2 seconds after you started.
As for the knockback.
Comparing the knockback of Jabs/Sweep with Javelin, Magnum Shot, and few others can only make me laugh. It pushes you back 0.4m.
And another problem with this spell. It doesn't eat the stamina of the person blocking it. Even if it is melee attacks.
Edited by p_tsakirisb16_ESO on August 25, 2014 11:05AM0 -
ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Asking for changes to PvP is pointless when they can't even make the time to do the most simple of fixes.
PermaCC (bitingspam, knockdown-roots etc), no CC immunity (simply does NOT exist), immovable broken and RM broken (provides no immunity to roots) are all bugs. It would look a lot different out there if these were fixed.
They've even claimed to have fixed some of these bugs but, as usual, they don't test any of their code and are surprised to find that none of it actually works.
These are all longtime or new bugs that they've proven too incompetent to fix and you're asking for considered changes to the system? Dream on.0 -
krim✭✭✭✭✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »SeltzerDuke wrote: »
What we really need in pvp is QQ immunity.skwornub18_ESO wrote: »The amount of CC in the game is insane, considering the mechanic doesn't even work right and people are constantly being perma CC'd or the supposed immunity just rarely if ever works perhaps it is time to consider just reducing the amount of CC in The game. Being stunned all the time is not a fun way to fight.
Please consider reducing the amount of CC in the game or add some sort of "reducing returns" on it over time. Currently it is very frustrating and just not a fun mechanic.
With all due respect if you are not going to add to the conversation in a positive manner why post? Disagreeing is natural all you did was insult and create a post bait to cause ill will.
Theres no insult in telling people to stop crying. Cheer up. Plus I dont have any issues with CC but hey im constantly blocking / using immovable / cleansing.
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