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Should there be paid Character race changes

  • Erock25
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    Yes
    1ne2woBe wrote: »
    Do research prior to making a new character. Very simple. If you can know/understand your odds prior to rolling the dice... do it!

    Otherwise... Don't gamble!

    Yes I'm sorry I didn't research more on the first day of early access.

    I'm dying to give ZOS 20$ to change my Khajit Sorc into a Dunmer or Altmer.
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  • Maverick827
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    Yes
    I'd like a paid name, race, and gender change.
  • b92303008rwb17_ESO
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    No
    I would prefer a faction change instead, for those with explorer's pack of course.
  • Azarul
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    No
    No way, then not only would everyone be a vampire, everyone would be a dunmer vampire.
  • seaef
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    No
    ...lets just not have that thing that comes standard with a triple A MMO...

    Of course, because we should follow in the footsteps of the steaming pile of craptastic AAA MMOs out today.

    No thanks.

    This is one of those rare occasions that I feel it's entirely appropriate to say the following:

    "Go back to WoW"
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  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Yes
    ...lets just not have that thing that comes standard with a triple A MMO...

    Of course, because we should follow in the footsteps of the steaming pile of craptastic AAA MMOs out today.

    No thanks.

    This is one of those rare occasions that I feel it's entirely appropriate to say the following:

    "Go back to WoW"

    "This is one of those rare occasions that I feel it's entirely appropriate to say the following:"

    WoW had many good features.

    Probably what still makes it after 10 years the most played MMO.
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  • Evergnar
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    No
    I really don't ever want to see race or class changes. There has to be some choices that actually mean something and I think these two are best left locked. You can change just about everything else. You can also start a new character.
  • seaef
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    No

    Probably what still makes it after 10 years the most played MMO.

    Only if you have a metal plate in your head.

    "The Illuminati are very achievement focused. It's like Xbox - only everything is hardcore."
    - Kirsten Geary
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Yes

    Probably what still makes it after 10 years the most played MMO.

    Only if you have a metal plate in your head.

    Doesnt matter if you like it or not , it is after 10 years still is the most played MMO.
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  • KhajitFurTrader
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    No

    Probably what still makes it after 10 years the most played MMO.

    Only if you have a metal plate in your head.

    Doesnt matter if you like it or not , it is after 10 years still is the most played MMO.

    This might as well be, but it's played by completely. different. people.

    It's like going back to your favorite club after 10 years, and all you can do is think: Who are all those kids? And what in the freaking hells has happened to the music??

    ;)
  • prototypefb
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    how about disable all racial passives, then there wil be balance. keep those useless 'experience gained with blah blah'?
    khajiits got severely screwed weeks after launch, compensation for 15% crit damage was 3% weapon crit? how would you magic based chars feel like your magicka +10-12% racial buff was replaced with 3% weapon crit?

    here's an idea: strip all racial bonuses to :
    1) 15% exp gain with Light armor
    2) 15% exp gain with destruction staff
    3) 15% exp gain with restoration staff
    4) 3% weapon crit
    :wink:
  • Lionxoft
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    Yes
    It would make ZOS a ton of cash. With that cash (hopefully) they can hire some dedicated QA engineers and get rid of these ridiculously obvious bugs and defects.

    I'm all for this option.
  • Maverick827
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    Yes
    I don't understand the "X should mean something!" camp. None of this means anything, lest of all what race you chose.
  • milesrodneymcneely2_ESO
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    I'm going to say "Yes" this time. Normally, I would agree with the folks saying "No - research your build beforehand and live by your choices".

    However, this game was marketed as a "play how you want" game. As it stands right now, we can't respec individual skill lines and the statistics can be somewhat vague. As a matter of fact, without addons you're NEVER going to see statistics such as Armor/Spell Pentration and specific resistances.

    So, building an optimal character for your role is a huge shot in the dark. Granted, that's not a big deal if you're leveling through your starter zones, or even before you get to Coldharbour. However, if you're Veteran ranked, that's a MASSIVE chunk of time and energy down the drain. I understand that playing is its own reward, but it kind of sucks to have to start from zero because you just didn't know how things are supposed to synergize. Being punished by the learning curve is part of gaming, but that seems a bit like overkill to me. YMMV.

    I don't mind rerolling because I made uninformed choices (as a matter of fact, I've done exactly that on several occasions). However, I'm disabled so time is a luxury that I have.

    Most folks don't have a lot of playtime, however. For them, I'd like to see a PAID Race/Faction Change option. It would allow them to maximize their playtime, while adding funds to the game.

    I - for one - am ECSTATIC about upcoming content and the speed at which ZOS is churning it out. I wouldn't mind adding a little to the pot to get something like a race change in return.

    :)
    Edited by milesrodneymcneely2_ESO on August 24, 2014 10:23PM
  • Tanis-Stormbinder
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    Yes
    Thank you all for Voting and your comments, keep them coming. I personally don't care either way, I love my Altmer Sorc. But have family members (adult's) who didn't have the time to do their research (because of work ) before creating their main's (VR12). And yes they have rerolled their Characters, but are bypassing many of the achievements. The Poll was created to get a Pulse on how the rest of the ESO community feels about the Issue.
    Edited by Tanis-Stormbinder on August 25, 2014 1:40AM
  • kieso
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    No
    I say no, not for this game, people will just pick the min/max for everything. Killing any kind of variety.

    Which ignores the real issue that they need to balance these out better.
    Edited by kieso on August 24, 2014 11:15PM
  • Humor
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    No
    I normally wouldn't disagree to a paid race change, however, it feels as if the people who pre-ordered the game with the intent of being the only ones who are able to use all races across all factions could come into play as an argument.

    I suppose it wouldn't be so bad, so long as the races you could choose from (should you not have pre-ordered) were that of your faction/alliances racial selection. Otherwise, I'm going to have to disagree. I might be inclined to feel a little screwed over knowing I paid for that special feature. Not that I care "that" much. It was just one of those nice bonuses, and little features people can feel "special" over knowing they're able to do this.

    In short; Yes, so long as you're not able to pick other factions races (if you did not pre-order).
  • seaef
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    No
    Doesnt matter if you like it or not , it is after 10 years still is the most played MMO.

    But by whom?

    Therein lies the difference...

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  • Dovhakiin
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    Yes
    I would say yes,I dont care if its lore-possible,this games has already lore-impossible things...I dont need to race or sex-change my characters but,I see the possibilities of it and how ZOS would have extra money with a lot of people who might be interested on it...I see people saying NO with the dumbest reasons ever...there is no reason to stop doing so, its market exchange, you dont want to create ,level up through the same [snip] content AGAIN? because all you need is a different race, not a class change .I say,good...you can sex/race change with no problems at all,its completely optional and it depends on each one of us,you dont want to do it...dont pay for that,but the ones who want to do that, they will have the opportunity to do so...

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_SandraF on August 25, 2014 1:56AM
  • MercyKilling
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    No
    No. Race, sex and class are things you should never be able to change on a whim, otherwise why even bother picking these things in the first place?

    Why not just have an androgynous lump that's capable of doing everything and has every bonus?

    Edit: Toned it down a bit.
    Edited by MercyKilling on August 25, 2014 1:55AM
    I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
    1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
    2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
    3) Difficulty slider.
    4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
    Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.
  • michaelb14a_ESO2
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    No
    I've never seen a community more hung up on the most mundane of basic MMO features.

    Maybe because this game has gotten so many of those "mundane of basic MMO features" wrong... or in many cases ignored them entirely.
  • michaelb14a_ESO2
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    No

    Probably what still makes it after 10 years the most played MMO.

    Only if you have a metal plate in your head.

    Doesnt matter if you like it or not , it is after 10 years still is the most played MMO.

    Has nothing to do with "liking" it or not. Attributing WOWs success to its "feature" set is rewriting history. Wow success, specifically it's large player population is so much more complex then you credit, and using the "WOW has X feature, WOW is popular, therefore WOW is popular because it has X feature.... is lazy point making at best, and ignorant at worst.

    Cool thanks bye.

    p.s WOW's success is is cited by industry analysts as a complex combination of timing (and evolutions) within the MMO industry and in regards to Warcraft 3's success, customer expectations of development pace/"endgame" of vanilla WOW, and the age demographic of the MMO gamer at the time. It had nothing to do with any one feature or even how "great" the game is. We will NEVER, ever see any MMO see the kind of sub numbers WOW had at its peak, regardless of how good an MMO is. It's a black swan.
  • Anvos
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    No
    Honestly don't care as I know I wouldn't use it as when I create a character its generally with a general story and personality in mind.
    Edited by Anvos on August 25, 2014 3:23AM
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Yes
    I agree choices should matter. Well except the ones I want to be able to change. Like spec, stat allocation, faction, morphs, those I should be able to change when I want. Those choices they don't really matter, well because I like changing them! Everyone else suck it up and deal because I don't want to change the stuff you do, so you suck it up.

    To sum up the stuff I want to change, those choices shouldn't matter. The stuff you want to change, and I don't, those choices should matter.
  • killedbyping
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    Yes
    There are indeed should be. That Khajiit race appears to be completely unworthy for any kind of build for NightBlade.
    Dont want to spend hundred of hours for re-rolling.
    Edited by killedbyping on August 25, 2014 6:21AM
  • Mondo
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    Yes
    Gender Change asap
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    No
    Like really people? Really? Yeah no, lets just not have that thing that comes standard with a triple A MMO just for the sake of being a unique snowflake or for the reasons of "I don't want this, so nobody should have it".
    You can play any race you want, just pop to the create character screen and choose the one you feel like trying. Job done.

    Does this also come with a V12 character, all quests completed, all skyshards found, all lore books found, free Ancient Elf/Barbaric/Daedric/Imperial/Primal motif books, lvl 50 in all crafts, a lvl 50 horse, and several months worth of completed training among many other things that you'll need to do all over again starting from the very bottom? No? Oh.

    Calling BS @Reiterpallasch‌, you make snide quotes regarding people wanting aspects of previous TES games, then you ask why we don't have a feature based on other MMO's?

    Fortunately, ESO has seen fit to not base their requirements on other MMO's.

    And you don't make it to VR12 and suddenly realize it doesn't work. I don't buy it.

    Your VR12 can still be craftmaster and know all styles. If anything, it's points you don't have to spend on the new character. Your VR12, whose race doesn't affect crafting last I checked, can still make use of that time and effort. Your alt will have more skillpoints to burn.

    Race alone doesn't make or break the game, and if you're like most, you took some time in the first place to set up your character.

    It doesn't mean you had to do hours of internet research, but I suspect you had a pretty good idea well before VRanything[/] that it was or was not what you wanted.

    Pay-to-anything leads to imbalance, because it never stops with the simple things.

    It's not that people don't want you to have it, it's that it's a feature that is simply not needed. The poll result speaks for itself.

    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Zebug
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    No
    Voted No, I could care less about lore but I'm tired of lazy humans getting everything spoon-fed to them all the time. Make a choice and deal with....adapt and overcome instead of crying until someone helps you.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Yes
    Zebug wrote: »
    Voted No, I could care less about lore but I'm tired of lazy humans getting everything spoon-fed to them all the time. Make a choice and deal with....adapt and overcome instead of crying until someone helps you.

    I agree. And the visual representation of a character you play in a video during your free time is the perfect place to draw that line.

    I would also point out that you actually come across as crying more then most the people asking for this. But carry on the good fight!
  • UrQuan
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    No
    I voted yes mainly due to the racial changes that have occurred since the game was released. I would prefer they offered everyone in game a one time character re customization (not class). This will allow them to change Race, Looks, and Name.

    Just out of curiosity, what racial changes are you talking about?

    I'm aware of some extremely minor adjustments to two racial passives since launch.
    I wouldn't call the changes to the Nord passives extremely minor adjustments... Mind you, what I'm referring to was clearly a bug (unless they really intended to show what BAMFs Nords are by forcing them to fight with a passive that makes them take more damage always).
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    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
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    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
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