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Counter to blocking
Vunter
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PVP is full of people that blocks all the time now.. And spam instant abilities.
When you see someone with sword and shield, you just can't kill him if you aren't using those things too.
If they don't want to fix this instant ability casting while blocking thing, then we need a counter for blocking, because everyone he's freaking invincible when he does it.
And they can even DPS hard with some class abilities.
Please?
Edited by Vunter on August 21, 2014 10:23AM When you see someone with sword and shield, you just can't kill him if you aren't using those things too.
If they don't want to fix this instant ability casting while blocking thing, then we need a counter for blocking, because everyone he's freaking invincible when he does it.
And they can even DPS hard with some class abilities.
Please?
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just unleash on them and burn their stamina down. If they don't keep the pressure on me, they'll run out of stamina and then they are open to whatever I choose to throw their way.
That said, as a Templar, I don't have an AoE CC effect that is guaranteed to work. I could run with Spear Shards but it only hits one target and it might not always be the one I want.EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job2 -
Awdwyn✭✭✭I just unleash on them and burn their stamina down. If they don't keep the pressure on me, they'll run out of stamina and then they are open to whatever I choose to throw their way.
That said, as a Templar, I don't have an AoE CC effect that is guaranteed to work. I could run with Spear Shards but it only hits one target and it might not always be the one I want.
How about trying out volcanic rune? It's mages guild so not class limited.3 -
There's no real, effective counter. The idea is to run them out of stamina so they can't block, but it seems nearly impossible.Edited by aclarkob14_ESO on August 21, 2014 3:14PM1 -
jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just unleash on them and burn their stamina down. If they don't keep the pressure on me, they'll run out of stamina and then they are open to whatever I choose to throw their way.
That said, as a Templar, I don't have an AoE CC effect that is guaranteed to work. I could run with Spear Shards but it only hits one target and it might not always be the one I want.
How about trying out volcanic rune? It's mages guild so not class limited.
Oh yeah! Good call. I'll give it a shot.EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job1 -
Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭The problem with PvP is not that tanks can actually block and soak up some damage, but rather how players rush to the forums and cry for nerfs rather than figuring out ways to beat said opponents.
They are certainly killable.7 -
jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The problem with PvP is not that tanks can actually block and soak up some damage, but rather how players rush to the forums and cry for nerfs rather than figuring out ways to beat said opponents.
They are certainly killable.
Well this is laughable. "Tanks" aren't the problem. It's players with offensive builds and light armor who are able to simultaneously attack and block, becoming nigh-unkillable. Actual tanks just have to be worn down.EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job6 -
Reiterpallasch✭✭✭Block their block by walking up and putting your shield between them and their shield to block their block so they can't block your block.12 -
jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Reiterpallasch wrote: »Block their block by walking up and putting your shield between them and their shield to block their block so they can't block your block.
EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job13 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Spam light attacks with low cost spells or abilities that do many small attacks like flurry or various dots. It eats their stamina up really quick.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points2 -
Jaxom✭✭✭✭Counter to Blocking as a NB:
Aspect of Terror (fear cannot be blocked)
Dark Shades (drains Stamina on enemy while you sit and light attack)
DW:
Flurry (drains Stamina very fast)
Undaunted:
Trapping Webs (synergy) (Fear cannot be blocked)
Someone mentioned Volcanic Rune, but never tried it for this application. I cannot speak on other classes but Fear is your friend. It's the ultimate counter to Block.
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Dominoid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just unleash on them and burn their stamina down. If they don't keep the pressure on me, they'll run out of stamina and then they are open to whatever I choose to throw their way.
That said, as a Templar, I don't have an AoE CC effect that is guaranteed to work. I could run with Spear Shards but it only hits one target and it might not always be the one I want.
Tab target and you'll always hit that character. I'm really surprised how many people don't do this.
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just unleash on them and burn their stamina down. If they don't keep the pressure on me, they'll run out of stamina and then they are open to whatever I choose to throw their way.
That said, as a Templar, I don't have an AoE CC effect that is guaranteed to work. I could run with Spear Shards but it only hits one target and it might not always be the one I want.
Tab target and you'll always hit that character. I'm really surprised how many people don't do this.
Indeed? That's great to know. I'll try that out as well. Thank you.Edited by jrgray93 on August 21, 2014 2:13PMEP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job1 -
Awdwyn✭✭✭Counter to Blocking as a NB:
Aspect of Terror (fear cannot be blocked)
Dark Shades (drains Stamina on enemy while you sit and light attack)
DW:
Flurry (drains Stamina very fast)
Undaunted:
Trapping Webs (synergy) (Fear cannot be blocked)
Someone mentioned Volcanic Rune, but never tried it for this application. I cannot speak on other classes but Fear is your friend. It's the ultimate counter to Block.
Fear is what I use. I'd be careful with flurry as it's channeled and a bash will interrupt it, setting you up for an incoming heavy attack / knockdown. I don't know if Volcanic rune will work, as I haven't tried it, but it's worth looking into no?0 -
Astien✭✭✭✭Sword and board DK's arent even the worst offenders for this. It's the Resto staff NB that hold Block and cast swallow soul over and over again. and it hits for like 500 constantly healing them.
My only counter for these block builds has been to use my siphoning attacks with 2h
and just critical rush > dodgeroll > vanish > critical rush. till I can burn them down.
If they aren't hitting me at least they aren't getting any health back.0 -
Jaxom✭✭✭✭Counter to Blocking as a NB:
Aspect of Terror (fear cannot be blocked)
Dark Shades (drains Stamina on enemy while you sit and light attack)
DW:
Flurry (drains Stamina very fast)
Undaunted:
Trapping Webs (synergy) (Fear cannot be blocked)
Someone mentioned Volcanic Rune, but never tried it for this application. I cannot speak on other classes but Fear is your friend. It's the ultimate counter to Block.
Fear is what I use. I'd be careful with flurry as it's channeled and a bash will interrupt it, setting you up for an incoming heavy attack / knockdown. I don't know if Volcanic rune will work, as I haven't tried it, but it's worth looking into no?
I agree with Flurry, but it's such a rare occurrence, I take the risk. Most times, when I'm in someone face hitting Flurry, they are panicking and holding block trying to get away from me. Most don't remember the bash
shhhh. I'll test out Volcanic Rune tonight unless some one want's to give it a shot during the day. For any Non-Nightblade, Trapping Webs would be your go to counter unless Volcanic Rune works. I was messing around with it on my NB, and it's phenomenal in small group play. You can range fear them with help of course, then charge in and fear them again. 0 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Counter to Blocking as a NB:
Aspect of Terror (fear cannot be blocked)
Dark Shades (drains Stamina on enemy while you sit and light attack)
DW:
Flurry (drains Stamina very fast)
Undaunted:
Trapping Webs (synergy) (Fear cannot be blocked)
Someone mentioned Volcanic Rune, but never tried it for this application. I cannot speak on other classes but Fear is your friend. It's the ultimate counter to Block.
Fear is what I use. I'd be careful with flurry as it's channeled and a bash will interrupt it, setting you up for an incoming heavy attack / knockdown. I don't know if Volcanic rune will work, as I haven't tried it, but it's worth looking into no?
I agree with Flurry, but it's such a rare occurrence, I take the risk. Most times, when I'm in someone face hitting Flurry, they are panicking and holding block trying to get away from me. Most don't remember the bash shhhh. I'll test out Volcanic Rune tonight unless some one want's to give it a shot during the day. For any Non-Nightblade, Trapping Webs would be your go to counter unless Volcanic Rune works. I was messing around with it on my NB, and it's phenomenal in small group play. You can range fear them with help of course, then charge in and fear them again.
I may pick up that fear for my DK's Bow bar.... That could actually be fairly useful.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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CapuchinSeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭aclarkob14_ESO wrote: »There's no real counter. The idea is to run them out of stamina so they can't block, but it seems nearly impossible.
...other than all the counters that have been listed here, yeah there is no counter. Just.. all those counters listed here.1 -
Jaxom✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Counter to Blocking as a NB:
Aspect of Terror (fear cannot be blocked)
Dark Shades (drains Stamina on enemy while you sit and light attack)
DW:
Flurry (drains Stamina very fast)
Undaunted:
Trapping Webs (synergy) (Fear cannot be blocked)
Someone mentioned Volcanic Rune, but never tried it for this application. I cannot speak on other classes but Fear is your friend. It's the ultimate counter to Block.
Fear is what I use. I'd be careful with flurry as it's channeled and a bash will interrupt it, setting you up for an incoming heavy attack / knockdown. I don't know if Volcanic rune will work, as I haven't tried it, but it's worth looking into no?
I agree with Flurry, but it's such a rare occurrence, I take the risk. Most times, when I'm in someone face hitting Flurry, they are panicking and holding block trying to get away from me. Most don't remember the bash shhhh. I'll test out Volcanic Rune tonight unless some one want's to give it a shot during the day. For any Non-Nightblade, Trapping Webs would be your go to counter unless Volcanic Rune works. I was messing around with it on my NB, and it's phenomenal in small group play. You can range fear them with help of course, then charge in and fear them again.
I may pick up that fear for my DK's Bow bar.... That could actually be fairly useful.
That's exactly how I had it set up. I was using it on my bow bar. I recently swapped it out for Camouflaged Hunter due to the sheer number of Vamps in Cyrodiil, but every once in a while, I swap it back. A ranged snare that can fear with synergy is very underutilized.0 -
CapuchinSeven wrote: »aclarkob14_ESO wrote: »There's no real, effective counter. The idea is to run them out of stamina so they can't block, but it seems nearly impossible.
...other than all the counters that have been listed here, yeah there is no counter. Just.. all those counters listed here.
I fixed my original comment for you.0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭Counter to blocking is cloak, stealth and find a new target. 360 degree block that they can spam skills through is not worth trying to fight.2
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CapuchinSeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭aclarkob14_ESO wrote: »CapuchinSeven wrote: »aclarkob14_ESO wrote: »There's no real, effective counter. The idea is to run them out of stamina so they can't block, but it seems nearly impossible.
...other than all the counters that have been listed here, yeah there is no counter. Just.. all those counters listed here.
I fixed my original comment for you.
Don't worry man I'm just messing with you.
I do disagree though, there are a number of ways to stop a blocker.0 -
bosmern_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭It can be very annoying because you have to get a group on a person blocking to take them down, which is still a pretty hard feat. Specially when they talons and drop a standard, or do bats. etc.
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades are able to take on Blocking people the best, with Shades and Fear.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Syndy✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Nightblades are able to take on Blocking people the best, with Shades and Fear.
Blinding Flashes does a decent enough job, it's by no means excellent. Nothing like running up on someone holding down block, popping that, then watching them stumble back disoriented.Syndy - VR14 Breton Templar
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Nightblades are able to take on Blocking people the best, with Shades and Fear.
Blinding Flashes does a decent enough job, it's by no means excellent. Nothing like running up on someone holding down block, popping that, then watching them stumble back disoriented.
I just added this to my PVP bar in the last two days. There's a third thing to try out...EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job0 -
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✭In PvP I'm a NB healer with Resto, I slot Mass Hysteria and run around with my group of usually four or five friends, three are DKs, ones a NB, the other is a sorc. So when I see someone blocking, run up, Mass Hysteria, and before they know whats happened my buddies have hammered them into the dirt so far only their head is visible, and it gets trampled. I also get rage whispers from time to time, I'll edit the post and post a pic of one if I manage to screenshot the next one
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