subsciption loyalty rewards, does this mean free to play is coming?
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Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭I just read on the road ahead that they will be introducing subscription loyalty rewards, usually games have this as well as free to play, so i wonder if its going ftp?
No, why should it mean that? Remember the uproar over the vanity pets, the wolfhound, whatever, how many people screamed "but I've been subbing since before Moses was born, why don't I get any candy??" (sorry about the sarcasm). It could be that this "loyalty" program is an answer to that. This is candy for the long-term continuous subscribers. A badge of shame honor, as it were.
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Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭OP, you don't remember all the whining threads that flooded the forums over that dog and the Steam release? People were whining constantly about loyalty for a good week or more.
Obviously this is ZOS' response to that and not an indication the game is going free to play.
I see the pattern:
1. Whine
2. Repeat 1 for a week
3. Profit!1 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭OP, you don't remember all the whining threads that flooded the forums over that dog and the Steam release? People were whining constantly about loyalty for a good week or more.
Obviously this is ZOS' response to that and not an indication the game is going free to play.
I see the pattern:
1. Whine
2. Repeat 1 for a week
3. Profit!
4. Complain about the posts actually related to the game and feel clever!1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭OP, you don't remember all the whining threads that flooded the forums over that dog and the Steam release? People were whining constantly about loyalty for a good week or more.
Obviously this is ZOS' response to that and not an indication the game is going free to play.
I see the pattern:
1. Whine
2. Repeat 1 for a week
3. Profit!
lol It's the truth.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭Did they post a new Road Ahead or is this based off the old one?
Yup, look here: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/08/20/the-road-ahead----august-20
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DogFaceInBananaPatch✭✭✭✭Loyalty system will most likely be a pet to troll those around you at the bank with.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, I see it s more of a "don't unsubscribe while you wait for the content we promoted at Quakecon that is still a ways off. Look! We'll give you stuff for staying while you wait!"3 -
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✭✭I am just curious what they exactly mean by staying subbed. I usually never sub for games. I buy gamecards all the way. Its just a better deal.
So what about that? Any official statement on that one?0 -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I just read on the road ahead that they will be introducing subscription loyalty rewards, usually games have this as well as free to play, so i wonder if its going ftp?
i will always pay sub personally but do wonder if it might be good for the game to draw more folks in? Perhaps a free trial atleast get them hooked first.
anyway the more money they make the more content we get, just thought it was an interesting point to make in the road ahead.
I lol'ed. SWG was never free to play and had loyalty rewards. Vanguard had it for 24 months until they didnt have DEVS around to make new rewards. In fact i know many P2P mmo's who had it in the past.
It doesnt mean anything. It just means they can "trick" people into keep subbing because you might miss out on something cool. I am not sensitive to this though. I keep subbing because the game is awesome.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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Martinus72✭✭✭✭To OP - no, in any means it doesn't mean this game is going to be a cash shop disguised as ftp.
Like the others here I had witnessed what that has done to Lotro Swtor or Rift so just no for godness sake.0 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I know people dislike the fact that pets take up valuable bank/bag space. But I am just going to say that I would be totally willing to create a mule just for the sole purpose of holding on to all my pets.
Bring it on, ZOS!Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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DogFaceInBananaPatch✭✭✭✭A great promotional tool would be for them to make PTS free; I mean if the Live game is going to have as many bugs as the PTS client ZOS might as well let those not subscribing fix it for us subscribers all the while allowing new customers try the game. Then they'll come over to the subscription model to play the Live game they fixed when PTS goes down.
I understand why they're introducing a loyalty system (whatever that involves in incentives). Why would a paying customer play to fix bugs and not progress their Live characters. I know I would never Beta Test while paying UNLESS it's rewarding enough.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'd like to be able to run an animal shelter in game where everyone can drop off their unwanted pets - loyalty reward or otherwise. This has nothing at all to do with my main profession as a provisioner (cough).
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RedMiniStapler✭✭✭wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »
In an unrelated development I'm wondering if Ice Wraiths make good pies.
I hear they make great provision, like keep your baked goods very moisture and soft.0 -
Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I find this as likely as a particular burger chain going out of business because sometimes they mess up orders or their food sucks.
ESO will end up making billions and billions also.
If they left the game as it is right now, never did another content release or upgrade, they would still have enough people continuing as is and enough new people coming along to generate all the income they would ever need.
With things that continue to be wrong, there is more than enough to keep people occupied for a long, long time.
F2P's not gonna happen. It doesn't need to.
I find anyone hard pressed to say the game is not worth $15/month, all day long.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS2 -
KhajitFurTrader✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oh boy, it must be getting really hard to find the right signs and portents for those who want to see, fear, or hope that ESO's going F2P in the foreseeable future. Some are so desperate, they will take anything as an omen. What will come next? Let's have a look.
Things and events that will be taken to mean ESO's going F2P soon:- Paid character services will be introduced as DB tech advances
- Due to popular demand, a variety of new, differently colored horse coats will be made available in the store
- ZOS turns down to show up and showcase ESO at <insert parochial convention in some country here>
- The next MMO game releases
- The next expansion to any MMO game releases (any takers for the bet that this will come up in November?)
- The next game releases
- The next Road Ahead is either early, or late, or arrives precisely when it means to
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LtCrunch✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah, I see it s more of a "don't unsubscribe while you wait for the content we promoted at Quakecon that is still a ways off. Look! We'll give you stuff for staying while you wait!"
Update 3 and 4 both contain content talked about at QuakeCon.
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭KhajitFurTrader wrote: »7 The next Road Ahead is either early, or late, or arrives precisely when it means to
Or has a DETOUR or Road Closed sign in front of it
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just read on the road ahead that they will be introducing subscription loyalty rewards, usually games have this as well as free to play, so i wonder if its going ftp?
i will always pay sub personally but do wonder if it might be good for the game to draw more folks in? Perhaps a free trial atleast get them hooked first.
anyway the more money they make the more content we get, just thought it was an interesting point to make in the road ahead.
No but it is, eventually . It will be a freemium model.2 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its more akin to the FFXIV loyalty rewards from what I can tell if I read it correctly. You get vanity bonuses based on how many months you purchase - people who purchase more months at a time will acquire them before the people who only purchase by the month, but everybody will get them eventually.
It should also be noted that their system also is not a precursor to f2p, so if they are basing this program on FFXIV's program then there is nothing to worry about. If this is the case, I can see this being an easy win for ZOS, free vanity stuff is overwhelmingly positive for most MMOs.1 -
Slelis✭✭I know people dislike the fact that pets take up valuable bank/bag space. But I am just going to say that I would be totally willing to create a mule just for the sole purpose of holding on to all my pets.
Bring it on, ZOS!
I thought they were planning on making pets show up in a menu or something, so they don't take up inventory space?1 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭I know people dislike the fact that pets take up valuable bank/bag space. But I am just going to say that I would be totally willing to create a mule just for the sole purpose of holding on to all my pets.
Bring it on, ZOS!
I thought they were planning on making pets show up in a menu or something, so they don't take up inventory space?
They did talk about wanting to do this, but there's no timeline for it as of yet.0 -
JessieColt✭✭✭✭I just read on the road ahead that they will be introducing subscription loyalty rewards, usually games have this as well as free to play, so i wonder if its going ftp?
i will always pay sub personally but do wonder if it might be good for the game to draw more folks in? Perhaps a free trial atleast get them hooked first.
anyway the more money they make the more content we get, just thought it was an interesting point to make in the road ahead.
The Loyalty Program is in response the cry babies who demanded that they be given pets and other rewards because they were already subscribed when ESO was released through Steam and gave NEW accounts a dog.
The Loyalty Program is in response to the cry babies who didn't get the pig because they couldn't afford, or didn't bother to go to, one of the Gamer Conventions.
The Loyalty Program has nothing to do with ESO going F2P now, or any time in the future.1 -
LunaRae✭✭✭✭I just read on the road ahead that they will be introducing subscription loyalty rewards, usually games have this as well as free to play, so i wonder if its going ftp?
i will always pay sub personally but do wonder if it might be good for the game to draw more folks in? Perhaps a free trial atleast get them hooked first.
anyway the more money they make the more content we get, just thought it was an interesting point to make in the road ahead.
How do you correlate loyalty rewards with F2P ??? Unless there's a trend with P2P going F2P after introducing loyalty rewards I see no correlation between the two topics. Just another silly thread about F2P.Stands-Strong-As-Snow ~ Argonian Templar DC NA V14
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Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »I just read on the road ahead that they will be introducing subscription loyalty rewards, usually games have this as well as free to play, so i wonder if its going ftp?
i will always pay sub personally but do wonder if it might be good for the game to draw more folks in? Perhaps a free trial atleast get them hooked first.
anyway the more money they make the more content we get, just thought it was an interesting point to make in the road ahead.
No but it is, eventually . It will be a freemium model.
Rubbish. Your crystal ball is a lead weight.5 -
traigusb14_ESO2✭✭✭✭✭ESO has a red dye now... some other games with red dyes are FTP!
Wait ESO has like 9+ red dyes... so it is 9x as likely to go FTP now!?!?!
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Veteran or Loyalty rewards are nothing new. They are a way of keeping you subbed while you try something new and usually show up about the time the game might be getting direct completion (*cough* NEXT, Archage). This isn't not a direct path to Pay to Win (some call it Free to Play) but could indicate they are concerned about coming competing games.0
