Maverick827 wrote: »

deathmasterl_ESO wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

deathmasterl_ESO wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

]I'd like to know which MMOs you've played that don't have as much as ESO's meager content.

When you have almost 4000 hours spent on an MMO you start to run out of stuff to do, just saying...

That does not support your original statement that ESO has more content than other MMOs.

No where in any of my post's did I say that ESO has more content then other MMO's not once. What I said is I have run out of content to do on other MMO's because I have spent almost 4k Hours on each of them without lvl increases or expansions for months and or years.

Regardless leaving an MMO because they're adding 2 Lvls is kind of sad, but that's just my opinion.

This statement has an obvious meaning:

deathmasterl_ESO wrote: »

I've only played 4 mmo's and none of them have as much as ESO

And it isn't "I'm done with all of the content in the other MMO's I've played." You're just backtracking now because I called you out on a lie.

Thats funny because I wrote what I said in the context of more expansions coming out lol, but whatever.

Either way, done arguing with you and what you think I said and meant.

Not even half of this thread (judging by votes) will leave ESO over 2 levels? Huh.... Bye!

But seriously, all this doom and gloom over a couple of VR levels, and extra content to do, and extra stuff to craft in the game.

I mean god-forbid anyone actually continue to do "work" in games to better their characters, or get better gear.

The only excuses I seem to see within the thread is that "People who have jobs, and lives won't be able to get anywhere in the game anymore". Well, honestly, that's all on you. I for one have a job, one which changes at a moments notice from day-night time shifts (construction), which at the end of the day is very tiring, and very time consuming (usually 12 hour days), but oh lordy, 2 more levels, and I "have" to get new gear? What has the Mmorpg world come to!? Sky must be falling somewhere!

I've said it before, if you want a game that's never-changing, and merely cosmetics, Guild Wars 2 is probably your calling, and the best part is, it's only "Buy to Play". Great game, but when you get tired of the cosmetic BS, ESO will still be here at the end of the day.

Humor wrote: »

Not even half of this thread (judging by votes) will leave ESO over 2 levels? Huh.... Bye!

But seriously, all this doom and gloom over a couple of VR levels, and extra content to do, and extra stuff to craft in the game.

I mean god-forbid anyone actually continue to do "work" in games to better their characters, or get better gear.

The only excuses I seem to see within the thread is that "People who have jobs, and lives won't be able to get anywhere in the game anymore". Well, honestly, that's all on you. I for one have a job, one which changes at a moments notice from day-night time shifts (construction), which at the end of the day is very tiring, and very time consuming (usually 12 hour days), but oh lordy, 2 more levels, and I "have" to get new gear? What has the Mmorpg world come to!? Sky must be falling somewhere!

I've said it before, if you want a game that's never-changing, and merely cosmetics, Guild Wars 2 is probably your calling, and the best part is, it's only "Buy to Play". Great game, but when you get tired of the cosmetic BS, ESO will still be here at the end of the day.

I think its the lack of direction that is baffling people . and the devaluing of content with crafting being better, imbalances unaddressed, armor other then light near useless for end game pve. add on each content update is so bug ridden it breaks the game more.

That and saying one thing doing the complete opposite is kind of confusing people.

bearclawmcbainb16_ESO wrote: »

No, it will most definately not make me quit. I am very happy that the game is expanding and allowing me to keep progressing my character(s).

For those who choose to quit over this, I sincerely hope (for your own sake) you never intend to spend money on an MMO ever again, because raising the levelcap and introducing new gear is kinda what happens in these types of games.

So, so very tru.e

Cinder82 wrote: »

so they lost n other 10% of there player base!! how can they make this game fail any harder! OMG !

When you quit, do you promise to stop coming to the forums too?

bearclawmcbainb16_ESO wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Please actually read people's posts. The problem is with the frequency of level cap increases. I've been playing MMOs for over ten years, this isn't the standard.

Right, so if in the future things go like they have done so far, there will be a major update released approximately every 6 weeks or so, and every second major update will have a new area to explore and a couple new VR levels. That's new VR levels approximately every 3 months.
Even just playing on average 1-2 hours every day after work or school, you'd gain a VR level in less than a week. Even casually, you should be able to have VR14 in less than 2 weeks.

You know, ZOS can't win whatever they do. Release new content too slow, the vocal minority is in an uproar. Release it too fast, they are angry too.

Well, I think as this poll has shown, the majority is fine with it.

Keep up the good work ZOS, loving the game!

its not the update its the content. they could have doen something way better like rescaling the content they have. and actually put some time into itemization instead of throwing material break down purples for extreme challenges.

The reality is its more productive to just go plug on nodes to refine rares then do the actual content.

no

bearclawmcbainb16_ESO wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

If you don't do raid content then this level cap increase has nothing for you. There is no casual/solo content in 1.4.

*Pfft* please. Upper Craglorn is much more than just a new Raid. There is plenty to do for casuals there.

But remember, you, and all the others who voted yes, have now committed to quitting when the new ranks go live! Ah well, who are we kidding, most (if any) of those voting yes won't leave. See you ingame after the update!

So condescending. My account is canceled. For the past week and a half I've only been logging in to work on an addon anyway, just waiting for 1.4.

Everyone here is getting so defensive. Even if you disagree with the reasons why we're upset and quitting, try to imagine a scenario where Zenimax does something that would cause you to quit (and don't say "nothing would cause me to quit" because most of you had to have quit an MMO to be here now). One minute you're really excited for the next patch and the next you're coming to the realization that the game just won't be fun for you with these new changes. That would suck, right?

I was refreshing the PTS forums every five minutes at work yesterday, really looking forward to those awesome, small changes that aren't big enough to make it to the QuakeCon panel but mean a lot to you, personally. For me, I was really hoping to see them slip weapon and shield dying into 1.4. In my wildest dreams maybe they would have added the taunt back to the Storm Atronach.

The patch came out during lunch for me, and I actually got up and left the lunch room so I could text my friend the news. We are both V12 and were really hoping to put ourselves to the test with the Dragonstar Arena trial times. We had our gear already made and upgraded, using pretty much all of our resources to do so. Now we have to grind two more levels and somehow replace our gear to get back to being competitive, and neither of us have the wherewithal to do that, especially after 1.3's set changes had already cost us even more resources.

I think it's incredibly selfish to laugh at people for quitting a game.

Cinder82 wrote: »

@I'm so glad to see that at least there are 10% or more people would unsub with me upon vet 14 arrival. This might be not a huge financial damage to ZoS, but I'd like to give some at least for this mindless decision.


dude 10% loss is huge! and unacceptable in most companies.. but hey this is zos so they must think **** it

Agreed, I work in a retention project management role and if a product I launched resulted in us shedding 10% of our subscribers then my balls would be in the juicemaker....

No, of course not. Doesn't mean I think it's a good idea. I think it's waaaaaaay too soon for another level cap increase. Boneheaded? Yes. Quit-worthy? No.

Nine pages of troll food. What were you people thinking.

Hey if they can get rid of the majority of whiners with one update, I'm all for it!!! Bring on VR14!!!!!!!!

lordrichter wrote: »

So, honestly, the question you should be answering is not whether you should quit over VR14, but whether you should be this invested in a change from VR12 to VR14.

For the near future, yeah, this is a big enough deal that I honestly need to be this invested, i.e. enough to quit. Farming the gold to afford a new set of legendary materials is too long and unfun of a process that I just can't see myself doing it. And if I don't, then I'm going to be at a disadvantage in the trial times.

Maybe it wouldn't matter, but it's always harder to take a loss when your star quarterback is out with an injury for that game, or to keep it in nerdier terms, when you can't afford all of the best cards for your Magic: the Gathering deck. Failing at something leads to more frustration when you feel like you're not even playing on fair ground in the first place. I don't like to feel unnecessarily frustrated when playing games, which is something I'm sure everyone can agree with.

For me, the issue is that in a hypothetical alternate universe where VR14 wasn't coming out, a poll asking "will you quit if they don't increase the level cap in 1.4?" wouldn't come even close to 10%. Probably 0%, or 1% with some joke posts. So you have an issue that 10% - 20% of players feel really strongly about and at least 50% of people feel negatively about that is being championed by people who wouldn't feel as strongly if the opposite were true. It feels like an unnecessary loss of players.

I'm not thrilled about it since I heard the news only 2 days after I used 90 yellow tempers to craft my "endgame gear".

But it's not even close to being enough to make me look for another game.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Have you played an MMO before?

I see you're being your condescending self again .. I've played and still play as of today 6 other MMOs and NONE have a level cap rise every couple of months.

I have only played WOW and they released new tires of gear around each 3rd month, you then had to do dungeons or raids to get the new gear either as drop or buy for reward points.

ESO does this a bit different, veteran level is just to allow you to wear better gear, allows crafting to keep up at some degree and don't let you buy the new sets straight away as few items is BoP.

As I said in another post, just adding new and better sets without raising VR cap would still require you to get and improve new gear to get the best.