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Let's get this "give my legendary mats back" complain train started.
killedbyping
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So, VR14 coming. Max level of items will be increased. All your base are belong to us now...erm, i mean we all will have to craft new gear. All your WAXes and ROSIN's are wasted into the abbyss.
So, lets get this complain train started.
P.S. Me personaly think there is nothing wrong with gear getting stronger over time and the fact you have to keep working in order be on top.
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Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 14, 2026 7:47PM So, lets get this complain train started.
P.S. Me personaly think there is nothing wrong with gear getting stronger over time and the fact you have to keep working in order be on top.
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dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You will get some of those legendary mats back when you recycle the armor/weapons. I've deconstructed custom made suits before and I've always received at least half or more of the tempers that I used to create it.19 -
killedbyping✭✭✭✭You will get some of those legendary mats back when you recycle the armor/weapons. I've deconstructed custom made suits before and I've always received at least half or more of the tempers that I used to create it.
Lol what ? You get 1 upgrade mat max if any. But you need 8 to make 1 piece of armor or weapon -.-15 -
dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭killedbyping wrote: »You will get some of those legendary mats back when you recycle the armor/weapons. I've deconstructed custom made suits before and I've always received at least half or more of the tempers that I used to create it.
Lol what ? You get 1 upgrade mat max if any. But you need 8 to make 1 piece of armor or weapon -.-
Not half per piece, but enough to start crafting another set. At least you don't lose everything...
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Road2insanity777✭✭✭Yea, im done making V12 legendaries that's for sure. They should make a way to upgrade the base item... Honestly at this point i already don't wanna make any at V14 and thats not even out yet...1 -
Drigr✭✭Eh, it's the risk you take with being bleeding edge. I don't want them to set a precedent for refunding upgrade materials cause better gear came out. People in full legendaries will get to be bleeding edge until the next upgrade, that's how it is. You can either hold onto the mats forever in fear that when you use them the set will be obsolete, or you can use them and enjoy your time at the top. When the next tier comes out, everyone will have to start over together, and those that don't, either save their mats (and were behind you for this tier) or prepared for the future better.9
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xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OMG, it's so terrible that I keep getting all these legendary upgrade mats from hirelings and I'll actually need to use them in the future and not just let them build up in my bank or sell them.-- @xaraan --
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shadowz081✭✭✭killedbyping wrote: »You will get some of those legendary mats back when you recycle the armor/weapons. I've deconstructed custom made suits before and I've always received at least half or more of the tempers that I used to create it.
Lol what ? You get 1 upgrade mat max if any. But you need 8 to make 1 piece of armor or weapon -.-
Not half per piece, but enough to start crafting another set. At least you don't lose everything...
What say you have 9-11 gold item, and you decon them all, you get 9 gold item back, and not all of them the same...Assuming you have 3/3 for the reduce temper cost abilities and all your armor and wep are gold, you would have used 72-88 gold tempers to make your stuff not including any purple/gold quality enchants you may have used, so right now you only recovered enough tempers for one piece of wep/armor upgrade, assuming you use 7/7 heavy armor and melee weapons. So it is a huge lost right there for many people, and gold tempers are anything but common and cost anywhere between 2.5-5k gold each.4 -
Road2insanity777✭✭✭Yea if they see the future as remaking all your legendaries every 3 months. I see my future in another game. I don't have time for that... nor do I want to...9
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Petitions aren't allowed, and because of that this thread will probably be locked.
We aren't going to get our mats back, part of the entire point of a "Gear Treadmill" is to keep your Mats on low supply to force you into an economy.
Within; Without.6 -
Pucko82✭✭they update sets in one patch - make Player invest their time in crafting new stuff - and then ruin all the effort with the next patch?! [snip]
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭This is an MMO...if you didn't think this was going to happen sooner or later then you have no right at being at max level in the first place.
I on the other hand have been hoarding mats nicely cos I knew this was gonna happen and i'll make a killing on selling mats at the vastly inflated new gold levels. 5k per on Euro server now
Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.6 -
Pucko82✭✭This is an MMO...if you didn't think this was going to happen sooner or later then you have no right at being at max level in the first place.
I on the other hand have been hoarding mats nicely cos I knew this was gonna happen and i'll make a killing on selling mats at the vastly inflated new gold levels. 5k per on Euro server now
you'r right. this happens in mmos. but not within 6 weeks! [snip]
did I say: [snip] yet?
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Road2insanity777✭✭✭This is an MMO...if you didn't think this was going to happen sooner or later then you have no right at being at max level in the first place.
I on the other hand have been hoarding mats nicely cos I knew this was gonna happen and i'll make a killing on selling mats at the vastly inflated new gold levels. 5k per on Euro server now
you'r right. this happens in mmos. but not within 6 weeks! [snip]
did I say: [snip] yet?
Yes, but I'll say it again, [snip]
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Xeres14✭✭✭I'm not in this situation but tbh, this is a legit complaint. I am doing the same thing - saving my legendary mats for max level. And I'd be mighty annoyed if I crafted and subsequently upgraded to Legendary status because I was VR12.
So when I hit max level (no matter what it is at that time) I'm probably going to wait a while. Who knows when ZO will pull the rug from under your feet.0 -
xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OMG, it's so terrible that I keep getting all these legendary upgrade mats from hirelings and I'll actually need to use them in the future and not just let them build up in my bank or sell them.
My hirelings suck then. These lil buggers only got me blues, scraps and some style material lately. Wish me luck guys. Seems i need it!
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Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Heh, I kinda got used to this playing other MMOs where they keep increasing the level cap.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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[snip] fits really well what Zenimax does to the players.
[edited for profanity bypass]Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 14, 2026 7:49PMNoricum
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just want to know what the last official rank will be so I can get an idea of how long I will need to hoard my mats.1 -
c0rp✭✭✭✭✭
✭You're a fool to make all your armor yellow before the Champion System is fully integrated. Wonder when people will figure this out.Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.2 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
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How will the champion system matter? Apparently veteran ranks will still be in the game. They'll still be increasing them once a month.You're a fool to make all your armor yellow before the Champion System is fully integrated. Wonder when people will figure this out.
It will never be worth it to make legendary gear at this pace.
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c0rp✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maverick827 wrote: »
How will the champion system matter? Apparently veteran ranks will still be in the game. They'll still be increasing them once a month.You're a fool to make all your armor yellow before the Champion System is fully integrated. Wonder when people will figure this out.
It will never be worth it to make legendary gear at this pace.
Vet ranks will not exist after all three phases of the champion system are in place. It makes absolutely no sense to have them in an alternate advancement system.
Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.2 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭8 trait craters should have the ability to improve crafter gear to higher levels.
An other solution would be to allow the players to deconstruct 7 legendary armor pieces and 3 or 4 legendary weapons and recover all the legendary upgrade mats they used.2 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maverick827 wrote: »
How will the champion system matter? Apparently veteran ranks will still be in the game. They'll still be increasing them once a month.You're a fool to make all your armor yellow before the Champion System is fully integrated. Wonder when people will figure this out.
It will never be worth it to make legendary gear at this pace.
Vet ranks will not exist after all three phases of the champion system are in place. It makes absolutely no sense to have them in an alternate advancement system.
From what was explained, VR will still be your rank, and the champion system will be more rewards.1 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You will get some of those legendary mats back when you recycle the armor/weapons. I've deconstructed custom made suits before and I've always received at least half or more of the tempers that I used to create it.
HALF? HALLFF? You are way off. I'm not sure the % chance on getting back a crafting mat back with 3/3 in the relevant skill, but just to guess it seems to be about 50%. So for 7 pieces of armor that is 56 legendary mats used and you will get back anywhere from 3-4 legendary mats. Half of 56 is right around 4 so yes you were right.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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✭✭✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »
My hirelings suck then. These lil buggers only got me blues, scraps and some style material lately. Wish me luck guys. Seems i need it!
Have you upgraded them? Ranks 2 and 3 are where you get more of the good stuff.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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c0rp✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maverick827 wrote: »
How will the champion system matter? Apparently veteran ranks will still be in the game. They'll still be increasing them once a month.You're a fool to make all your armor yellow before the Champion System is fully integrated. Wonder when people will figure this out.
It will never be worth it to make legendary gear at this pace.
Vet ranks will not exist after all three phases of the champion system are in place. It makes absolutely no sense to have them in an alternate advancement system.
From what was explained, VR will still be your rank, and the champion system will be more rewards.
OMG..NO. Why do people keep saying this. ZoS has stated that VR ranks will be removed after the 3rd phase of champion system being introduced. It was stated that everyone would be lvl 50 after it was all said and done. Here is the exact quote from jessica folsom:
"Once the champion system is completely in place, VR levels will be gone, so yes it'll just be level 50 and you will expand into the champion system."
Edited by c0rp on August 20, 2014 3:27PMForce weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.1 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I understand increasing the lvl cap with expansions. It's the nature of the beast with MMOs. I also appreciate the effort Zos is making to keep fresh content rolling off the press. But raising the lvl cap right now is kinda crazy.
I finally just turned VR 12 on my main about a week ago. I had been saving purple and gold materials for that special moment when I finally hit VR 12.
I depleted my savings using 56 wax, 16 resin and 8 tempers to make a full set of gear and 3 weapons. Not to mention the purples and blues. Then I bought 10 Kutas and had a friend craft me 10 legendary glyphs for all that gear.
So that's 90, yes 90 legendary components I used to make a set of gear I have been saving for and looking forward to since launch. I was so proud of my new set. I felt like a rock star.
Then I come here a few days later and find out it was an absolute waste. I'm all for lvl cap raises every year or so. But every few months? That's just crazy.
$400,000 gold worth of materials flushed down the toilet. Now people are going to be afraid to even use them.Edited by Alphashado on August 20, 2014 3:29PM3 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maverick827 wrote: »
How will the champion system matter? Apparently veteran ranks will still be in the game. They'll still be increasing them once a month.You're a fool to make all your armor yellow before the Champion System is fully integrated. Wonder when people will figure this out.
It will never be worth it to make legendary gear at this pace.
Vet ranks will not exist after all three phases of the champion system are in place. It makes absolutely no sense to have them in an alternate advancement system.
From what was explained, VR will still be your rank, and the champion system will be more rewards.
OMG..NO. Why do people keep saying this. ZoS has stated that VR ranks will be removed after the 3rd phase of champion system being introduced. It was stated that everyone would be lvl 50 after it was all said and done.
Source? Because I'm just going off what was said at QuakeCon.1
