Nerf: Nightblade Invisible.

GRxKnight · August 2014

Beedles wrote: »

lol NB is a girly class for wimps to play hide and seek of course they need a perma stealth that works ALL the time even during combat. you expect a weak body and mind person to fight fair? the 13yr old ganker mentality needs this class.
you don't believe me that NB class is for girly wimps? just watch the reply's it will be full hate and sarcasm because they got their feeling hurt. look at all the girly men that attacked the OP. too funny carry on ladys!

You've probably died to a lot of good NB's I'm guessing and are trying to compensate for your lack of skill. Mad or naw?

Aziz006 · August 2014

Among all MMOs or MOBAs I played ESO has weakest invisibilty ability. Seriously 2.9 seconds while being vulburable to a lot of source?( AoE, Inner light, Mark target, Castle Guards, Detection potions) And no damage bonus while coming out of invisibility( not stealth!)

Lionxoft · August 2014

Beedles wrote: »

lol NB is a girly class for wimps to play hide and seek of course they need a perma stealth that works ALL the time even during combat. you expect a weak body and mind person to fight fair? the 13yr old ganker mentality needs this class.
you don't believe me that NB class is for girly wimps? just watch the reply's it will be full hate and sarcasm because they got their feeling hurt. look at all the girly men that attacked the OP. too funny carry on ladys!

I think this guy meant to say "grisly class". Nothing "girly" about Nightblades... Actually, I'm not sure what that even means.

Kypho · August 2014

Beedles wrote: »

lol NB is a girly class for wimps to play hide and seek of course they need a perma stealth that works ALL the time even during combat. you expect a weak body and mind person to fight fair? the 13yr old ganker mentality needs this class.
you don't believe me that NB class is for girly wimps? just watch the reply's it will be full hate and sarcasm because they got their feeling hurt. look at all the girly men that attacked the OP. too funny carry on ladys!

All who playing pvp using stealth, so they are all weak body and mind in person, because they just sneaking... If you never used stealth, then im sorry for you, you are more brainless than any other in this planet. It is common that non NBs forming group, going into stealth, and just wait for ppl to gank.
NB invisibility is its survivability. I gues you are a loldk who made for beign a halfgod with right build (obv. you are not that kind of dk.)

glitchmaster999 · August 2014

Yeah needs nerfs.... unless you are full magicka you only get off like 3 casts, if you get hit once before you go invis you come straight back out, I main a nightblade in PVP and I dont use this to escape, it doesnt do *** to get away, dots, pots and magelight make it useless......

Just one more sorc that cant deal with a nerf and tries to nerf other things to make themselves feel better.

glitchmaster999 · August 2014

Yeah needs nerfs.... unless you are full magicka you only get off like 3 casts, if you get hit once before you go invis you come straight back out, I main a nightblade in PVP and I dont use this to escape, it doesnt do *** to get away, dots, pots and magelight make it useless......

Just one more sorc that cant deal with a nerf and tries to nerf other things to make themselves feel better.

Uisi · August 2014

Yeah, nerf me please, i am a god among mortals!

Mondo · August 2014

Was your DK standing afk and was hit by a Nightblade? Yes nerf Nightblade DAMN OP CLASS

Soloeus · August 2014

Kypho wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

It is getting ridiculous. Nightblades are too powerful, being able to slip into invisibility without restriction upon any whim.

1. All actions (such as setting up a Siege Weapon) invoke a "timer." 5 seconds for a siege weapon. This leaves a person vulnerable while setting up siege weapons, and helps reduce the brainless tactic of oil pots everywhere.

2. When invisible is reused within 30 seconds of itself, it should cost 2x.

They start invisible, stealth up an oil pot, hit everyone with it, then right back to invisible again. Occasionally you will see a person "flicker" coming out of Invis long enough to attack and retreat.

Bolt Escape was nerfed, Bat Swarm was nerfed and now Nightblades need it. This is a fix.

1. its not NB problem. all can go stealth, put up a siege weapon. hit ctrl (default keybind) 5 sec timer, ok.
2. That would be cool, make cloak unbreakable, un cc able, break aggro (not sure about break agro) and much longer than 2.9 sec.

Occasionaly because its bugged. you can spit at NB and cloak breaks. even if NB spit, it will break (nb should not even fart or it will break the mighty cloak)

btw, sorry if you feel bad mr Vampire Sorcerer . To add something, as NB i rarely can escape with cloak, because of potions, because it breaks always, because its eating up magicka like hell.
If you use it mid fight, you will get out from it. exept if you are a vampire, so we are back to the old story, vamps need nerf, not NB. Sorry mr vamp but your own race need nerf.

And mr vampire sorcerer, we dont have fragments with insane crits (+cc) and has awesome proc chance, and an autoexecution lightning, what doesnt need any brain, and bolt escape... where you go away 1km. So sorcs are still better than NB overall.
where NB need cloak for the small amount skills to CC.... CC doesnt work without the awesomely bugged cloak.

Another note: cure vampirism, and see how bad you will be. so you cant say its not OP, and you complain about the worst bugged ability. LoL

1. I shoot a lot of spells at cloaking NB's and it never breaks, ever.

2. The problem is they stealth up, oil up, use oil, cloak, run, etc. You can't hit them because they go Cloak - Snipe - Cloak - Snipe and no, your endless fury and crushing shock and even impulse doesn't knock them out.

3. Vamp NB's with Nights Silence can walk faster than the fastest horse in the game can sprint, for free.

Kypho · August 2014

Soloeus wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

It is getting ridiculous. Nightblades are too powerful, being able to slip into invisibility without restriction upon any whim.

1. All actions (such as setting up a Siege Weapon) invoke a "timer." 5 seconds for a siege weapon. This leaves a person vulnerable while setting up siege weapons, and helps reduce the brainless tactic of oil pots everywhere.

2. When invisible is reused within 30 seconds of itself, it should cost 2x.

They start invisible, stealth up an oil pot, hit everyone with it, then right back to invisible again. Occasionally you will see a person "flicker" coming out of Invis long enough to attack and retreat.

Bolt Escape was nerfed, Bat Swarm was nerfed and now Nightblades need it. This is a fix.

1. its not NB problem. all can go stealth, put up a siege weapon. hit ctrl (default keybind) 5 sec timer, ok.
2. That would be cool, make cloak unbreakable, un cc able, break aggro (not sure about break agro) and much longer than 2.9 sec.

Occasionaly because its bugged. you can spit at NB and cloak breaks. even if NB spit, it will break (nb should not even fart or it will break the mighty cloak)

btw, sorry if you feel bad mr Vampire Sorcerer . To add something, as NB i rarely can escape with cloak, because of potions, because it breaks always, because its eating up magicka like hell.
If you use it mid fight, you will get out from it. exept if you are a vampire, so we are back to the old story, vamps need nerf, not NB. Sorry mr vamp but your own race need nerf.

And mr vampire sorcerer, we dont have fragments with insane crits (+cc) and has awesome proc chance, and an autoexecution lightning, what doesnt need any brain, and bolt escape... where you go away 1km. So sorcs are still better than NB overall.
where NB need cloak for the small amount skills to CC.... CC doesnt work without the awesomely bugged cloak.

Another note: cure vampirism, and see how bad you will be. so you cant say its not OP, and you complain about the worst bugged ability. LoL

1. I shoot a lot of spells at cloaking NB's and it never breaks, ever.

2. The problem is they stealth up, oil up, use oil, cloak, run, etc. You can't hit them because they go Cloak - Snipe - Cloak - Snipe and no, your endless fury and crushing shock and even impulse doesn't knock them out.

3. Vamp NB's with Nights Silence can walk faster than the fastest horse in the game can sprint, for free.

I dont know why but vamps can really go invisible that fast and nothing breaks it, as i saw with my own eyes, maybe thats the issue.

but a normal player's cloak breaks, belive me.
I dont even try to escape if someone shot at me, because i spamm cloak but always getting out right after it activating. cloak decloak, cloak decloak, they dont even need detection potion or magelight. and im not the only one.

OrangeTheCat · August 2014

No nerf. Learn to deal with it. There are ways to counter it.

Samadhi · August 2014

Soloeus wrote: »

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3. Vamp NB's with Nights Silence can walk faster than the fastest horse in the game can sprint, for free.

Vampire Sorcerers, Vampire Dragonknights, and Vampire Templars are all exceedingly fast in this set.
My girlfriend plays a Vampire Templar with Night's Silence. I play a Vampire Nightblade with Concealed Weapon on my bar.
When we both sneak, she is faster than I am.
When I use Cloak and receive a running speed buff from Concealed Weapon, she is faster than I am.

I don't want the set nerfed, but this set is not a Nightblade-specific issue.
It also only works in Sneak, which Nightblade has no more access to than any other class. The bonus does not activate with Nightblade's Cloak.

GRxKnight · August 2014

I think it's rather funny how little the OP knows about NB's

Cathexis · August 2014

Since every ass hole in the universe is still crying for a bolt escape nerf, I support the OP.

Nerf NBs until they are useless because *waaah* (that's the usual logic right?)

Samadhi · August 2014

Cathexis wrote: »

Since every ass hole in the universe is still crying for a bolt escape nerf, I support the OP.

Nerf NBs until they are useless because *waaah* (that's the usual logic right?)

I have never taken an issue with Bolt Escape personally. My policy was always that if a Sorcerer expends all his or her resources escaping me, I should expect to spend all of mine in order to catch him or her.

However, if Sorcerer's are going to continually complain about Nightblades then I say nerf Bolt Escape until it is as ineffective as Shadow Cloak is.

Bolt should only carry a Sorcerer as far as I can run in 2.9 seconds, and should take 2.9 seconds to do so. If I hit the Sorcerer before those 2.9 seconds are up, the cast should cancel out and not carry them anywhere.
If a Sorcerer has a DoT on an enemy, or has a projectile travelling towards an enemy, Bolt should fail when the skill damages the enemy.
There should be a teleportation potion that allows me to travel instantly to the Sorcerer each time they teleport, for 10 seconds.
Streak should not do damage or CC; a Sorcerer should be required to cast another skill after bolting in order to have such effects.
Magelight (or a comparable Fighter's Guild skill) should leash the Sorcerer to their enemy so that Bolt does not work if the enemy is close enough to them.

All of these changes can go in at the same time as adding a repeat casting cost to Shadow Cloak, that would be perfectly acceptable.

hammer_fella · August 2014

Soloeus wrote: »

1. I shoot a lot of spells at cloaking NB's and it never breaks, ever.

2. The problem is they stealth up, oil up, use oil, cloak, run, etc. You can't hit them because they go Cloak - Snipe - Cloak - Snipe and no, your endless fury and crushing shock and even impulse doesn't knock them out.

3. Vamp NB's with Nights Silence can walk faster than the fastest horse in the game can sprint, for free.

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