Just like life, the opportunities to find and enjoy content released in the game are all around you. IE: other people.

I didn't say it was impossible, I just said you couldn't change it any more or less than you can change the events that occur in life.

In some cases, you can impact change.
In others, you cannot.

Can we hug it out? I don't like all this fighting. I'll crank up the Marley and get the snacks, you bring the booze, k?

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

I didn't say it was impossible, I just said you couldn't change it any more or less than you can change the events that occur in life.

In some cases, you can impact change.
In others, you cannot.

Can we hug it out? I don't like all this fighting. I'll crank up the Marley and get the snacks, you bring the booze, k?

haha fair enough , to me we were just discussing things , but if that made you uncomfortable no reason to keep it up.

I will get the booze .

I have to wonder if the people claiming to be stuck at VR10 after their solo experience, skipped every world boss, dolmen and public dungeon. I found myself a bit beyond VR11 after picking the VR1-10 maps clean. I still haven't ventured into Cyrodil to do the solo quests there. Instead of going there I decided to throw myself headlong into the packs of trash and delves of Craglorn. After many deaths and a few adjustments I have found success in completing a few of the delves alone as well as world bosses and general open world trash. I don't die much any more. I got better at soloing. You can continue to solo. There is very little content in Craglorn that I feel is beyond the resources a duo can bring to an encounter. Go make ONE friend and get some stuff done.

Here, I'll find the article. It was on Massively.com I believe.

Here's the link to the article: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03/19/the-elder-scrolls-online-interview-paul-sage/

And here's the paragraph that made me believe we'd be able to group with other alliances (found directly beneath the 4th image on the page, an image of a bridge):

Sage assuaged most of my fears, however, when he mentioned that once you hit level 50 and decide to play in another alliance's areas, you'll be able to play with friends in that faction. So at the endgame, things begin to open up and you can group up, chat, and run dungeons with players of other factions. The one area where things remain separate is, of course, the Alliance War in Cyrodiil.

The interview is between Richie Procopio of Massively and Paul Sage.

Thoughts?

Déjà vu, didn't you make a thread about this days ago?

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Stop being antisocial. Join a guild, run the group content with your new "friends" and quit nitpicking at life. It sucks sometimes, I recommend getting a helmet.

Did you just compare life to a game? Cause that is quite silly.

One cant just skip parts of life , that is for sure , but one can chose what games to play and how to play them.

Nobody here is forced to pay to play this game , we do it because we want to do it.

Which is the reason so many already talked about just going to play something else until the devs finally decide to add content for solo players.

Yes I did, because you as a player can't control the direction game designers choose to take THEIR game that you PAY to play any more or less than you can control the events that occur in life.

Boom. Comparison.

You will find out that if enough people complain , if enough people leave the game and leave a certain feedback ...

Player can indeed change the direction a game is going.

This game is here to make money mate and for that alone , if they start doing less , they will probably go check the reason for it.

So yes , like in so many other things , if enough people vote with their wallets , they can change the direction the devs are taking their game.

I have never liked the belief that whinging is in anyway a viable course of action that some elements on these forums take to heart. That is not a productive method of communication, and I doubt it even has any effect.

Constructive criticism is one thing. Feedback threads with well thought out posts with what you do want to see are good. But crying and stomping your feet until you get what you want is anathema to any sort of productive relationship with the devs. I know, having adminned/programmed for an mmo at one point. The people we listened to last of all were the ones that cried the hardest. And it was a pay to win game so we had a vested interest in convincing people to shell out more of their money.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And if you had been following closely... There is indeed new solo content coming about. It just doesn't happen to be this particular update.

Or the last one. Or the previous one. Or the previous one.

Would you be so kind and point out a single MMO that releases content updates every 6 weeks (or less) that focuses on group content and solo content alike?

Seriously, looking for solo Elder Scrolls experience? Go back to Skyrim or Oblivion or Morrowind or .... blah. Oh and never come to this forum again

I'm seriously tired of going through the forums to find out what's up while I don't/can't play and reading such topic titles, bunch of ungrateful whiny sons of ....
Sorry I couldn't hold it in anymore.
/flame off

Grouping and guilds are a foundation and a prime goal of every MMO. Or it should be. They already toned down the vet zones because people were way big of *** to go through it.

Seriously. There's a lot you can do. Get better at crafting, go on to tour the world, collect everything you find and earn yourself a Septim or two. Hunt for achievements for the colour you want your armour to be. Why not try and go alone into craglorn? Go back for the content you skipped (1-50 group dungeons). Or just hang in the city and chat, with a guild, with a friend, mess around. Read into the books you collected so far (if you have eidetic memory). Or hunt for new ones (you know lore books give you mage's guild Xp right?). Or just pick a direction and run. Try to swim as far as you can without getting killed by Slaughterfish! And if you end up killed, you get the Slaughtered achievement! Yay. Roll a character that you keep hearing is so OP (trust me it is :-)), or whatever.

End-game solo content is probably hard to make. Hard to even come up with what it should be. I recall the bunch of repeatable daily quests back at WoW, kinda all you can do as endgame solo, apart from the mentioned above, which you can do in every "open-world" (theme park) game. I don't want ESO to go this direction. Daily quests are boring. Mostly. It becomes after you go through them for a year or so.

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Also did you notice that they are skipping plenty of weekly maintenances lately? What gives ?

cvghosteb17_ESO wrote: »

Also did you notice that they are skipping plenty of weekly maintenances lately? What gives ?

Thursday is now mostly a reboot festival for the megaserver. This week, on Monday they were probably busy installing and preparing the PTS server. They could still have a patch Thursday to push out the next patch.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

And if you had been following closely... There is indeed new solo content coming about. It just doesn't happen to be this particular update.

Relax... It's coming.

Right, give the group players +20, then give Solo Players +5.

zso72 wrote: »

To the group players attacking the solo players for typing a response (the very notion of which seems to incite backlash on the forums these days), can you just play your continually updated group content and stop bashing those that voice an opinion contrary to your own?

As a solo player, it was not difficult reaching VR12. I did not and still don't have any problem, whatsoever, with the schedule of released content. That being said, at release, Vet content was by no means a "solo" event, nearly everyone who reached V10 before the nerf did so with a group. Then they added Craglorn, which has zero solo content (suiciding for skyshards buried in group areas and mashing E to gather with new scenery is not real solo content). Nerfing VR content to a level it was doable solo was much needed, but it arrived slowly and only modified existing content without adding any.

Don't argue that 1-50 was all solo content as some consolation, that would be a play-style choice, and many people do preVR content grouped. However, Craglorn and this content update are entirely GROUP content. We are not given the choice: solo or group. We are given the choice: skip or group. The issue remains: a near zero value of solo content has been added since launch, and that is disheartening. Despite having made the future solo content public, I feel that the heavy focus on group-or-bust content has driven a lot of people from the game, and THAT, not the schedule of content updates, makes me sad.

Okay, so what is it that you actually WANT exactly?

They're working on Wrothgar and new guild skill lines / quests and some other stuff.

You can't just keep repeating "We want solo content, and no what you're doing doesn't count" and then not give them any sort of clue as to what you actually WANT.

Instead of getting so defensive about people not having any idea what it is you're looking for, why not... tell them?

Anastasia wrote: »

And don't forget! All that yummy group content which ZOS designed for challenge and GROUPING --- welp after a hasty NERF to V+ 1-10, those who are solo centric got that given over to them as well.

To oversimplify the VR nerf harder and with more bias would be impossible. After the first month- and the vast majority people who got to V10 grinded through them at breakneck speed- the Vet zones were ABANDONED, ghost towns countries. After Crag grinding debuted, it was often just the Wayshrine-hopping chat-spammers that kept me company for the most part. They were poorly designed to begin with, the HASTY NERF you welped about saved a good chunk of the player base- which shouldn't you care more about...as someone arguing so hard for group+++ difficulty+++?

Anastasia wrote: »

Solo-centric zones aside from a very few delves and dungeons, there is cradle-to the-endgame content DOORWAY. Solo content galore, with more coming in Wrothgar. You're all set.

Keep oversimplifying and falsely labeling others' play through 1-50(-v10) as solo-centric. For a solo player, if they walked through that "DOORWAY" of yours, they would smash face first into a brick wall and then die to the 5 groups that pulled with the door. -1 for metaphail

Anastasia wrote: »

How about a huge, hundreds-of-posts-in-length thread asking, begging, pleading, directing, demanding and holding ZOS accountable for FIXING THEIR GROUP FINDER, the PHASING, the GROUP E X P Bonus, and GIVING BETTER GROUP LOOT REWARDS for vet content??

No? Oh, okay.

If that is what's got you so sour, please, PLEASE. make the post yourself....but in its own thread. You are derailing the topic of solo content vs group content post-launch with your hate-rabble.

Varicite wrote: »

Okay, so what is it that you actually WANT exactly?

Instead of getting so defensive about people not having any idea what it is you're looking for, why not... tell them?

Firstly, I simply asked for less pro-solo bashing, which is pretty prevalent on page 1-3 of this thread. Just went on to state that the content has been added for groups, little to none for solo players. I want the largest and most diverse player base possible...because I love playing this game. Making content beyond a specific level/tier of the game group-only, type-only, any-exclusive-only will ----only lead to less diversity, less player base, and less fun for those who are not cookie-cuttered into the same mold as the rest. Is this not the place to DISCUSS? I'm on topic based on the first post, I do not WANT anything, except to state my insignificant, skewed opinion, just like everyone else. I'll include more rabble rabble next time, so you know exactly what I want.