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Ok so my discussion title is a bit extreme. I am not completely educated in this subject... but is anyone aware of a game called Hero's Journey? I don't know much about programming and whatnot but I do know that the engine made for HJ is the same engine used to create SWOTR and ESO. Well somehow in the works the idea was scrapped and the rights to the engine was sold. Thus we have ESO. Now I love Elder Scrolls Online. I think its a great game. I think people want Elder Scrolls Online to be a game that it is not. Mind you HJ was supposed to be much much much more intricate than ESO. More freedom with stats and skills. Death would entail another player coming to bring your body back to life. Maybe another player transferring injuries from your body to theirs, healing themselves. I really wanted to see a game with very detailed mechanics. Well here's my look on it. ESO is not exactly what I wanted out of a game. I would have probably been more happy with a coop skyrim mod. That being said.... ESO is still a great game. Anyone I see bashing it seems to be comparing it to another game. WoW being the biggest comparison from what I see. You can only change an MMO so much before they start to fall into a common genre. You should expect to see certain systems implemented in just about every MMO (unless its really groundbreaking). It seems like people are afraid to try new things. Well if that's the case no one is forcing you to play! If you really don't enjoy the game then don't play it. When I was a kid gaming was about having fun. Some people have fun doing math equations. Some do not have fun doing math equations. The people that don't have fun doing math equations don't usually work on equations in their free time. I'd rather respond to the zone chatters this way rather than falling into their sarcasm, arrogance and ignorance. Its too bad they will probably never get on the fourms to read this. 
Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on August 18, 2014 1:15PM “Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” -Plato
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UnholyPerfection✭✭✭Come on dude, paragraphs...Edited by UnholyPerfection on August 18, 2014 12:50PM20 -
PSLAnimal✭✭✭✭Paragraph breaks are your friend.Animal (Ask me what the PSL stands for. Go on. Ask.)
@PSLAnimal on the NA Megaserver
Making people wonder just what the hell is wrong with me since 1961.11 -
Koensol✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭***, I don't even.. This is just such a random write-up. Can't tell what OP's point actually is.. And it's a vile a wall of text as well.7 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think I just might need more coffee...or...something. Sorry, OP but not quite sure what you're on about. I'll give it another read just in case it's me havin' a senior moment...
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MongooseOne✭✭✭Every Saturday I play poker with friends and family, one of which is my dear mother-in-law. Every Saturday without fail we will be having a conversation about something....say our favorite mixed drink or favorite movie quotes, whatever it may be.
And without fail she will randomly start talking about her neighbor likes to get his paper in the morning in his robe, or she will talk about what she had for lunch 3 days ago. Something just completely random and WAY off topic of our conversation.
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ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think he's being ironic for people getting mad that it's not Skyrim co Op or WoW in Tamriel, can't really tell.
Also the hero engine was used in testing at the beginning but is not the engine they are using as of now.3 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sounds like he read a bunch of comments in zone chat, so he took a bunch of random ideas and spit them out here in a wall of text. Is the title supposed to be a quote from zone chat? Even so, it hardly fits. He probably didn't even proof read before posting, which actually gives him a little credit in that his grammar wasn't as bad as some of the other random posts on the forums.Edited by SFBryan18 on August 18, 2014 1:52PM1 -
KhajitFurTrader✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't know much about programming and whatnot but I do know that the engine made for HJ is the same engine used to create SWOTR and ESO.
No, it isn't.
If your assumption is false from the outset, what does that say about the rest of your argument?Edited by KhajitFurTrader on August 18, 2014 1:57PM5 -
stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO doesn't use Havokk. (sic)
ESO does use Havok, but that is not the game engine. Havok is the physics simulation engine. It's a popular choice among game developers.
http://www.havok.com/
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The game doesn't use it, Havok was licensed by ZOS as a prototyping tool while they built their own engine .. please research ZOS own comments on the software they use and not rely on third-parties.stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »ESO doesn't use Havokk. (sic)
ESO does use Havok, but that is not the game engine. Havok is the physics simulation engine. It's a popular choice among game developers.
http://www.havok.com/
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fromtesonlineb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭@stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO Read this and learn:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/102820/eso-using-hero-engine-and-havok-seriously-you-lied-to-us/p1ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Hi, folks. When we began development for ESO, we licensed the HeroEngine so that we could hit the ground running. We used it as a tool for things like area prototypes and design concepts so that we could begin honing the art style. HeroEngine was our whiteboard: a great tool to put our ideas in the game and seeing them while the production engine was in development.
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✭✭ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Hi, folks. When we began development for ESO, we licensed the HeroEngine so that we could hit the ground running. We used it as a tool for things like area prototypes and design concepts so that we could begin honing the art style. HeroEngine was our whiteboard: a great tool to put our ideas in the game and seeing them while the production engine was in development.2 -
Rhoric✭✭✭✭✭Havok and Hero Engine are two different things. You should read what was posted in that topic linked first.0 -
Elad13✭✭✭Am I correct that the op starts off comparing eso to hero....and then bashes people that compare eso to other games??? Surely I'm not the only one that said wtf??? Practice hypocritical comments much?????Edited by Elad13 on August 18, 2014 6:35PM2
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DogFaceInBananaPatch✭✭✭✭I don't know much about programming and whatnot
This statement amused me so I went ahead and read the whole thing.
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Kos✭✭✭ESO man is about having fun, [snip]. I'm ESO man damn it! I'm about getting quests, I'm about having fun, I'm about having a good time,I'm about meeting people, I'm about PvPing, and whoever doesn't like it they can go f themselves because that's what I'm all about. I'm ESO man, and that's what ESO man is all about.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on August 18, 2014 8:46PM3 -
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Hero enjine was not used for Eso. It was used for concepts until Eso engine was made.Ok so my discussion title is a bit extreme. I am not completely educated in this subject... but is anyone aware of a game called Hero's Journey? I don't know much about programming and whatnot but I do know that the engine made for HJ is the same engine used to create SWOTR and ESO. Well somehow in the works the idea was scrapped and the rights to the engine was sold. Thus we have ESO. Now I love Elder Scrolls Online. I think its a great game. I think people want Elder Scrolls Online to be a game that it is not. Mind you HJ was supposed to be much much much more intricate than ESO. More freedom with stats and skills. Death would entail another player coming to bring your body back to life. Maybe another player transferring injuries from your body to theirs, healing themselves. I really wanted to see a game with very detailed mechanics. Well here's my look on it. ESO is not exactly what I wanted out of a game. I would have probably been more happy with a coop skyrim mod. That being said.... ESO is still a great game. Anyone I see bashing it seems to be comparing it to another game. WoW being the biggest comparison from what I see. You can only change an MMO so much before they start to fall into a common genre. You should expect to see certain systems implemented in just about every MMO (unless its really groundbreaking). It seems like people are afraid to try new things. Well if that's the case no one is forcing you to play! If you really don't enjoy the game then don't play it. When I was a kid gaming was about having fun. Some people have fun doing math equations. Some do not have fun doing math equations. The people that don't have fun doing math equations don't usually work on equations in their free time. I'd rather respond to the zone chatters this way rather than falling into their sarcasm, arrogance and ignorance. Its too bad they will probably never get on the fourms to read this.
If your pissed that another game was not made on the hero engine then go play Tor again to remind yourself what a hunk of *** it was.
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ok so my discussion title is a bit extreme. <cut for brevities sake>
I read the OP, nothing in it suggests any justification for the thread title.
He starts by talking about another game, which plain simply isn't relevant.
Then we get "I wanted a Coop Skyrim", which probably isn't possible, it would have so much lag that it would be unplayable. A better MMO was probably possible, but not a coop version of Skyrim.
But all that is irrelevant, this is the game we got, we either accept it, or play another game.Edited by AlexDougherty on August 18, 2014 7:31PMPeople believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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He must have written this at 2AM or something...Sanguine's Beta Tester0 -
ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭FYI OP,
A horse is a horse of course of course so you should name yours Mr. Ed
I figured it was relevant and all, congrats on the sunny skies!0 -
reggielee✭✭✭✭blah, really wanted to figure out what you were talking about so excitedly but ran out of energy trying to decipher your wall text. hope whatever has got you upset gets worked out fer yaMama always said the fastest way to a man's heart is through his chest.0
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