pets blocking the way

Venereous44 · August 2014

+1 for the upcoming justice system.. some people just deserve to die

Boom34 · August 2014

Venereous44 wrote: »

+1 for the upcoming justice system.. some people just deserve to die

you'll most likely die trying.

Venereous44 · August 2014

LOL.. i wouldn't have to.. i would have to take a ticket by the friends you're making...

UrQuan · August 2014

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

jcost4o wrote: »

Nothing worse than trying to get to the clothing station in Stormhelm and some one's pet spider bot won't let you through. Or when trying to interact at the bank and some one's got their winged twilight flapping and blocking your interface.

As a mage who uses a Clannfear I try to remember he's back there and in situations where Bob might interfere with others like in buildings I do try to remember to put him away until I'm done. As the Argonian guard says in Shadowfen, "Proper behavior is like an egg that hatches good citizenship."

I have come to hate the Winged Twilights so much I refuse to use one. In the bank its common to find three or four mages with the Twilights out flapping and blocking your click on the banker. I've gone so far as to ask in local chat that they please de-summon them until they're done. In one bank I had to jump up and stand on one persons Clannfear to even get to the banker...I thought they might get the hint he was in the way but nope.

Honestly, summoned pets should just be disabled in cities. That would prevent people who are intentionally using their pets in banks and similar locations to annoy others, and it would also prevent people who simply forget to de-summon them.

Sharee · August 2014

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

its why people use the stupid companion pets so much also, they always get stuck in doorways and you have to jump over them or try to wiggle passed

Just in case people do not know this - you can pass a blocked doorway simply by using a forward roll-dodge. It completely ignores collision (even with normal NPC's)

traigusb14_ESO2 · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

jcost4o wrote: »

Nothing worse than trying to get to the clothing station in Stormhelm and some one's pet spider bot won't let you through. Or when trying to interact at the bank and some one's got their winged twilight flapping and blocking your interface.

As a mage who uses a Clannfear I try to remember he's back there and in situations where Bob might interfere with others like in buildings I do try to remember to put him away until I'm done. As the Argonian guard says in Shadowfen, "Proper behavior is like an egg that hatches good citizenship."

I have come to hate the Winged Twilights so much I refuse to use one. In the bank its common to find three or four mages with the Twilights out flapping and blocking your click on the banker. I've gone so far as to ask in local chat that they please de-summon them until they're done. In one bank I had to jump up and stand on one persons Clannfear to even get to the banker...I thought they might get the hint he was in the way but nope.

Honestly, summoned pets should just be disabled in cities. That would prevent people who are intentionally using their pets in banks and similar locations to annoy others, and it would also prevent people who simply forget to de-summon them.

Trouble is, there are baddies in cities, and houses. My mage doesn't use pets, but I'd be unhappy tying to fight a baddie in town if you declared "no lightning in town!"

I hate the damn things, but turning collision off would cause less problems.

Noctisse · August 2014

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

jcost4o wrote: »

Nothing worse than trying to get to the clothing station in Stormhelm and some one's pet spider bot won't let you through. Or when trying to interact at the bank and some one's got their winged twilight flapping and blocking your interface.

As a mage who uses a Clannfear I try to remember he's back there and in situations where Bob might interfere with others like in buildings I do try to remember to put him away until I'm done. As the Argonian guard says in Shadowfen, "Proper behavior is like an egg that hatches good citizenship."

I have come to hate the Winged Twilights so much I refuse to use one. In the bank its common to find three or four mages with the Twilights out flapping and blocking your click on the banker. I've gone so far as to ask in local chat that they please de-summon them until they're done. In one bank I had to jump up and stand on one persons Clannfear to even get to the banker...I thought they might get the hint he was in the way but nope.

Honestly, summoned pets should just be disabled in cities. That would prevent people who are intentionally using their pets in banks and similar locations to annoy others, and it would also prevent people who simply forget to de-summon them.

Trouble is, there are baddies in cities, and houses. My mage doesn't use pets, but I'd be unhappy tying to fight a baddie in town if you declared "no lightning in town!"

I hate the damn things, but turning collision off would cause less problems.

Indeed there are many cases in which a city is under siege, burning, full of hostiles, turned to stone, take your pick, until a certain quest is completed. I keep my sorc pets around when that is the case, since, because of phasing, players who have completed the related quests and can now peacefully use the city facilities, are in another instance anyway. When the situation is resolved and the place is back to normal, the merchants are back etc, it's time to unsummon the minions.

Edit for typo

UrQuan · August 2014

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

jcost4o wrote: »

Nothing worse than trying to get to the clothing station in Stormhelm and some one's pet spider bot won't let you through. Or when trying to interact at the bank and some one's got their winged twilight flapping and blocking your interface.

As a mage who uses a Clannfear I try to remember he's back there and in situations where Bob might interfere with others like in buildings I do try to remember to put him away until I'm done. As the Argonian guard says in Shadowfen, "Proper behavior is like an egg that hatches good citizenship."

I have come to hate the Winged Twilights so much I refuse to use one. In the bank its common to find three or four mages with the Twilights out flapping and blocking your click on the banker. I've gone so far as to ask in local chat that they please de-summon them until they're done. In one bank I had to jump up and stand on one persons Clannfear to even get to the banker...I thought they might get the hint he was in the way but nope.

Honestly, summoned pets should just be disabled in cities. That would prevent people who are intentionally using their pets in banks and similar locations to annoy others, and it would also prevent people who simply forget to de-summon them.

Trouble is, there are baddies in cities, and houses. My mage doesn't use pets, but I'd be unhappy tying to fight a baddie in town if you declared "no lightning in town!"

I hate the damn things, but turning collision off would cause less problems.

Oh yeah, that's true. Of course, collision isn't really the problem with the winged twilights - it's their flapping wings.

Gilvoth · August 2014

Boom34 wrote: »

Its funny watching people get POed cause they cant get through. There forced to unmount their horse even.

please dont do this.

Jennifur_Vultee · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Logan9a wrote: »

Sometimes, when using the wayshrine to zone in, I get stuck because of someone's pet. It makes me feel stabby.

This happened to me last night in Elden Root at the shrine. I warned the person to move the pet monkey then I reported them for griefing when they didn't...it was obvious the pet was positioned perfectly to block the landing point. I'm getting tired of this BS and I'm not going to put up with it anymore.

The only way we have to fight back against greifing is the report button, if a few get reported and banned for this it will send a message to the rest.

I got stuck on a pet at a wayshrine too the other day. There were so many people stacked up I eventually had to log out. I couldn't get free of it. I bug reported it but now that I know people intentionally do this, I'm going to start reporting it as abuse.

When this happens hit escape twice, then you should be able to move normally. This has happened to me a few times, and this worked to let me move each time.

The first thing I did was try to roll out of it at the shrine but, several times in fact, no animations worked not even jump...it seems you get stuck inside the pet's collision mesh and can't move out of it.

UrQuan · August 2014

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Logan9a wrote: »

Sometimes, when using the wayshrine to zone in, I get stuck because of someone's pet. It makes me feel stabby.

This happened to me last night in Elden Root at the shrine. I warned the person to move the pet monkey then I reported them for griefing when they didn't...it was obvious the pet was positioned perfectly to block the landing point. I'm getting tired of this BS and I'm not going to put up with it anymore.

The only way we have to fight back against greifing is the report button, if a few get reported and banned for this it will send a message to the rest.

I got stuck on a pet at a wayshrine too the other day. There were so many people stacked up I eventually had to log out. I couldn't get free of it. I bug reported it but now that I know people intentionally do this, I'm going to start reporting it as abuse.

When this happens hit escape twice, then you should be able to move normally. This has happened to me a few times, and this worked to let me move each time.

The first thing I did was try to roll out of it at the shrine but, several times in fact, no animations worked not even jump...it seems you get stuck inside the pet's collision mesh and can't move out of it.

I also tried that and it didn't work, but hitting escape twice has worked for me in this scenario.

Potenza · August 2014

Boom34 wrote: »

Venereous44 wrote: »

+1 for the upcoming justice system.. some people just deserve to die

you'll most likely die trying.

Not only do you know what you are doing is wrong, your also an arrogant POS aren't you.

ZOS_AmeliaR · August 2014

To answer the OP's initial question, yes this is a reportable offense, as doing this intentionally is considered griefing. As others in this thread have pointed out, roll-dodging allows you to move through sorcerer pets. It's also worth noting that these pets having collision is something that will be fixed soon.

Slurg · August 2014

I do hope collision is fixed soon! In the meantime I suppose I will have to try roll dodging through doorways and escape keying at wayshrines.

But will we just have to live with the wings flapping in our faces at banks and crafting stations?

apostate9 · August 2014

Boom34 wrote: »

Venereous44 wrote: »

+1 for the upcoming justice system.. some people just deserve to die

you'll most likely die trying.

I'm your huckleberry.

UrQuan · August 2014

Slurg wrote: »

I do hope collision is fixed soon! In the meantime I suppose I will have to try roll dodging through doorways and escape keying at wayshrines.

But will we just have to live with the wings flapping in our faces at banks and crafting stations?

At the dye stations you don't see other characters while you're using it, so theoretically it shouldn't be difficult for ZOS to set it so that while you're at banks, merchants, crafting stations you don't see pets either.

MercyKilling · August 2014

This is exactly why there needs to be a "dead zone" around each vendor/banker where no abilities function at all. This way pets will get unsummoned.

Troponin · August 2014

This is highly annoying. I couldn't get in to the Furnace area/Blacksmithing area because so many people had their pets out. This isn't just minions either, this is also vanity pets as well. The other day I was on my horse racing through town and someone's monkey ran in front of me and made me come to a complete stop. This is just stupid.

babylon · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

Of course, you can roll through the pets, but I don't think everyone realizes this.

You can't roll through the pets if you land on them using a wayshrine. You just get stuck, can't move/roll/anything...can't even use the wayshrine to port away, and have to totally relog. They either need to make pets unsummon inside banks and at wayshrines, or fix collision detection. Or both, the little flappy wings are annoying as is all the eeping and barking.

I want to kill all your pets, and I'm probably not the only one feeling murderous.

UrQuan · August 2014

babylon wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Of course, you can roll through the pets, but I don't think everyone realizes this.

You can't roll through the pets if you land on them using a wayshrine. You just get stuck, can't move/roll/anything, and have to totally relog. They either need to make pets unsummon inside banks and at wayshrines, or fix collision detection. Or both, the little flappy wings are annoying as is all the eeping and barking.

That's true, but like I've said in this thread you can solve that without relogging by hitting escape twice. And that's a bug, whereas being able to roll through something that has collision turned on is intended functionality. Of course, when they fix it so that pets no longer have collision for friendlies, then hopefully that will fix the getting-stuck-in-a-pet-in-a-wayshrine bug.

Resueht · August 2014

As a new player with a pet and a summon, I was not aware of the collisions. I now feel bad for any misfortunes I have caused anyone at a bank or vendor

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

babylon wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Of course, you can roll through the pets, but I don't think everyone realizes this.

You can't roll through the pets if you land on them using a wayshrine. You just get stuck, can't move/roll/anything...can't even use the wayshrine to port away, and have to totally relog. They either need to make pets unsummon inside banks and at wayshrines, or fix collision detection. Or both, the little flappy wings are annoying as is all the eeping and barking.

I want to kill all your pets, and I'm probably not the only one feeling murderous.

Mr. Snippers would kick your ass. You might be able to take Snorkles though.

Humanistic · August 2014

Boom34 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Of course, you can roll through the pets, but I don't think everyone realizes this. Regardless, doing anything just to troll others is the sign of a very sad, pathetic individual.

Butthurt much?

I remember that word from when I was in grade school. Give us a call when you reach adulthood and learn how to antagonize someone that's insulted you indirectly.

MasterSpatula · August 2014

Dear OP, seek professional help. You may have Antisocial Personality Disorder. Or you may just be a bit of a ***.

GnatB · August 2014

dale_forrestb16_ESO wrote: »

we all innately know what is right and wrong.

Do we? I've seen studies that have attempted to prove whether it's innate or taught, but I haven't seen one which I've fully agreed with the methods.

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

I have come to hate the Winged Twilights so much I refuse to use one. In the bank its common to find three or four mages with the Twilights out flapping and blocking your click on the banker.

Curious, I don't remember ever having a winged twilight interfere with clicking an NPC. If I had been asked I would have said you clicked through them just like PC's. Makes me want to experiment when I get home. (Note: I don't have a twilight yet)

Boom34 · August 2014

Deadmedic wrote: »

Boom34 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Of course, you can roll through the pets, but I don't think everyone realizes this. Regardless, doing anything just to troll others is the sign of a very sad, pathetic individual.

Butthurt much?

I remember that word from when I was in grade school. Give us a call when you reach adulthood and learn how to antagonize someone that's insulted you indirectly.

That word wasn't even as thing when you were in grade school unless you just graduated. As far as aduldhood, I'm 38 years old thank you very much.

Boom34 · August 2014

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Dear OP, seek professional help. You may have Antisocial Personality Disorder. Or you may just be a bit of a ***.

Why yes I do Thank for noticing. Gee your know Maybe you should think of a career in Mental health.

MasterSpatula · August 2014

Boom34 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Dear OP, seek professional help. You may have Antisocial Personality Disorder. Or you may just be a bit of a ***.

Why yes I do Thank for noticing. Gee your know Maybe you should think of a career in Mental health.

I considered it when I was younger, but telling people to "seek professional help" just doesn't work as well when you are professional help.

ThisOnePosts · August 2014

FYI, even smaller pets like Razak's Spider seem to have collision with other people (not yourself). A friend and I were testing these and I didn't find one that doesn't have collision yet, they all seem to and really it needs fixing and should have been included in one of your last two hotfixes. It's pretty bad in some of the more popular places.

Srugzal · August 2014

accursed1 wrote: »

i hate it when a sorc uses their pets to block entrance ways. i got stuck in a room till the afk'd *** got kicked. first time i understood why people have an afk timer.

The same thing goes for vanity pets at the moment. I've seen banks completely clogged with Razark's Hope spiders with their owners oblivious to even /yell. I've never actually /report'ed anyone for this, though I've been close a few times. Happens a lot.

Even if there isn't collision, it's still rude in a confined space, especially with those Winged Twilights & their morphs.

Oh, I assume too that the OP meant this whole "If I..." thing tongue-in-cheek. OP hasn't yet experienced the wrath of the Humorless Ones. ;-)