Pretty sure it's a faulty game mechanic and not an exploit as someone mentioned above.

I like to see the word Templar all over this discussion, when is the only class that cannot apply both Stun and root!!!!!!


Templars have two stuns. Their duration is 1.5s (Toppling Charge), and 2s (Blazing Spear). We have also one knockback, Javelin.
We have no ROOTS.

Toppling Charge has a pretty bad side effect. When you drop the spear, you ALWAYS overshoot your opponent. And you lose that 1 second stun by turning around to face your opponent. When you use it you will see how annoying it is....

The only two classes that have both Stun and Root abilities are Sorcerers and Dragonknights. And those two are the only culprits of the issue.

Still, many assume that Stun + root cannot be broken. It can, if you "remember" the sequence they hit you. The reason is Stun always breaks with interrupt. Root with dodge. Trying to break Root with interrupt is pointless and stamina waste.

So. How to break Root + Stun?

As per other things, you need to remember which one hit you first. 90% of the time is the Stun. So Interrupt and then Dodge. That is mainly the DK attack.

Sorcerers prefer Root (Encase) first, then Stun. Because it will give them insta cast the Fragments. So Dodge and Interrupt.

Or else get Purge.


Yes some times you are hit by more than one player, with more than one Root and Stun. That is where you cannot break it, and need to spam break and dodge to move on.
Unfortunately, ZoS needs to fix the issue, and only the first CC applies per character, regardless how many people trying to cast CC on that character. And if broken, an extended immunity applied (eg 10 second). The 2-3 seconds immunity most of the time is pointless and in many cases not working.

And that is something I say for many months. The nerf bat needs to hit Cyrodiil, because the game ends up to a who hits first kills. While protection is completely useless.

No, also the templar can chain-cc atm: this was done to me yesterday twice , one was an ambush from distance, the other was just the spear-skill / puncturing sweep + sth. else casted before (maybe Javelin/maybe spear shards. But it was definetely a Templar! (which can use root with Bow btw)

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

@Francescolg
Yeah a Templar managed to kill you, so "QQ Templars have CC that cannot be broken"

I can hear all Templars are now laughing........

Bombard is a bow ability that everyone has access to. However, I do not see why a Templar will waste the time to use it, instead of Toppling Charge and start Puncturing Sweep/Bitting Jabs. Still you do not know with what he hit you, which could be anything, while making assumptions.

Also you are not actually defenceless yes? At worst you are a Templar, which means a draw after the magicka is drained and the sword fight starts.

At best you are a DK/SC/NB and you should have killed the Templar if he wasn't a better player than you.

However rule of thumb. The significant majority of the VR12 Templars are better players, because everyone that couldn't master the class pre 1.2.4, rolled a DK, SC, NB long time ago.

Ofc if you play on Chill EU campaign, or before on Hopsfire EU, could possibly be me who killed you

Not many Toppling Charge users around. The majority are using charge from shield or 2H.

LOL.

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not. Templars are not the underdogs of PvP, and claiming that "all the players who play X class are just more skilled" in any game is just hilarious.

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Illuvatarr wrote: »

It's absolutely ridiculous. NB's and Templars both have abilities where they can permastun you (NB one might be in the duel wield line). It's *** ridiculous and this issue should have been fixed by now.

Please tell me what ability the NBs can perma stun with? IF a NB uses Suprise Attack as a successful sneak attack it is a 4.5 sec stun. Other than that the only stuns come from ultimates which can only be used once

That is even bugged a bit. The off-balance applied by Veiled Strike is removed by weapon attacks before the damage calculation instead of after, so the target does not get knocked down by heavy followup attack.
This seems to be a new issues with 1.3.3 at least for PvE. Not sure about PvP.

The only thing even remotely like a CC in dual wield is Sparks, wich gives you a 100% miss chance with melee attacks for 4 seconds (no idea if it can be broken out). And that it is still a far cry from Crowd Control.

Omnevolus wrote: »

Gee, and here last I saw, everyone was complaining that cc's were too useless in PvP.................................

Do some people actually just go out of their way to hunt down something, anything, to complain about, all the time? Curious.

I have yet to hear people complain that CC is useless.