Can We Please Get Some MORE Bank & Bag Slots !

Phantax · August 2014

I know this is a sore issue with some people but for the love of Jode can we get some additional bank / bag space ?

Obviously people are screaming out for more space and I'm sure most would willingly pay (in-game currency) for additional space. So basically its a win-win situation. We get additional storage space and Zenimax get another gold sink for the economy !

Artemiisia · August 2014

no

Phantax · August 2014

Artemiisia wrote: »

no

Always nice to see an insightful, well thought out and properly versed reply !

:O

TehMagnus · August 2014

More bag space. TY.

williams226 · August 2014

yes or can we unlock trade skill bags so they don't take up bank and inventory space somehow...

I like to horde stuff forever.

Cuyler · August 2014

Yes this pls ;D

Phantax · August 2014

williams226 wrote: »

yes or can we unlock trade skill bags so they don't take up bank and inventory space somehow...

I like to horde stuff forever.

Yeah, additional/different slots would work too

MorHawk · August 2014

There's a fine line between persistence and nescience. That line is now a tiny dot on the horizon.

Azraeel · August 2014

I seriously see absolutely NO reason for an increased bag space/bank space. HOWEVER, what I would love to see is some kind of collection window.
A trophy belt that would fit all your trophies without costing inventory space.
A pet case where it would fit all your pets without costing inventory space.
A Materials bank that only fits 1 stack of each item that is independent from our banks.

If those exist, you won't need any extra space.

Vunter · August 2014

MorHawk wrote: »

There's a fine line between persistence and nescience. That line is now a tiny dot on the horizon.

This. Mr Phantax, you're not a newb here, you know there were already a lot of threads about this argument. Re-read them.

zhevon · August 2014

Sad to say but no - the ESO database clearly can't handle it.

Phantax · August 2014

Azraeel wrote: »

I seriously see absolutely NO reason for an increased bag space/bank space. HOWEVER, what I would love to see is some kind of collection window.
A trophy belt that would fit all your trophies without costing inventory space.
A pet case where it would fit all your pets without costing inventory space.
A Materials bank that only fits 1 stack of each item that is independent from our banks.

If those exist, you won't need any extra space.

So you don't want any extra bag/bank space BUT... you do want to see lots more spaces to put in things we already keep in the bank?
You say Tomato I say Tomato !

zhevon · August 2014

Azraeel wrote: »

I seriously see absolutely NO reason for an increased bag space/bank space. HOWEVER, what I would love to see is some kind of collection window.
A trophy belt that would fit all your trophies without costing inventory space.
A pet case where it would fit all your pets without costing inventory space.
A Materials bank that only fits 1 stack of each item that is independent from our banks.

If those exist, you won't need any extra space.

Clearly these would alleviate much of the space problems. In addition it would also be good if maps would have a map case without costing inventory space.

The real problem is when you start ESO their is an overwhelming amount of crap especially materials and you are not sure what to do; some would say LTP but thats a bit unfair especially when its coming from people with well-fed horses, several bag/bank upgrades under their belt, and much of their research already done. Hopefully the upcoming provisioning changes will help a bit; but they really need to make some or all of your suggestions.

williams226 · August 2014

If enough people complain I mean ask nicely ZOS will do it.

istateres · August 2014

The ESO database can't handle it!? But it can handle 7 ALTs each with a horse maxed out for carrying stuff and max bag space, right? Don't kind yourself, there is no issue adding more bag or bank space. It can be done, and I see no reason it shouldn't be done, so long as prices continue to increase as before.

Would I use it? Nope. Would I use a higher item stack limit (i.e. > 100), yup. Would that cost the database anything? Nope.

Azraeel · August 2014

Phantax wrote: »

Azraeel wrote: »

I seriously see absolutely NO reason for an increased bag space/bank space. HOWEVER, what I would love to see is some kind of collection window.
A trophy belt that would fit all your trophies without costing inventory space.
A pet case where it would fit all your pets without costing inventory space.
A Materials bank that only fits 1 stack of each item that is independent from our banks.

If those exist, you won't need any extra space.

So you don't want any extra bag/bank space BUT... you do want to see lots more spaces to put in things we already keep in the bank?
You say Tomato I say Tomato !

Well, not technically. I am not asking for extra free space that I can just place in whatever I want. I am asking for specific space to place specific items in it. In fact, if they just do what I've suggested, you could live with 100 inventory space and 100 bank space without having any issues.

Phantax · August 2014

Azraeel wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Azraeel wrote: »

I seriously see absolutely NO reason for an increased bag space/bank space. HOWEVER, what I would love to see is some kind of collection window.
A trophy belt that would fit all your trophies without costing inventory space.
A pet case where it would fit all your pets without costing inventory space.
A Materials bank that only fits 1 stack of each item that is independent from our banks.

If those exist, you won't need any extra space.

So you don't want any extra bag/bank space BUT... you do want to see lots more spaces to put in things we already keep in the bank?
You say Tomato I say Tomato !

Well, not technically. I am not asking for extra free space that I can just place in whatever I want. I am asking for specific space to place specific items in it. In fact, if they just do what I've suggested, you could live with 100 inventory space and 100 bank space without having any issues.

GW2 had that exact system and yes it worked fine. Certainly wouldn't mind seeing something like that here in ESO.
(would still like to be able to purchase more bag slots though)

Armitas · August 2014

Tons of sets
Tons of trophies
Tons of provisioning ingredients
Tons of Alchemy ingredients
Tons of Enchanting ingredients
Tons of Trait stones.
Soon to be Tons of special armor cosmetic mats.

Not a lot of space to put them in. I tossed almost all of those trophies because there is no bank space for them and all of my crafting lines and set armors.

zhevon · August 2014

istateres wrote: »

The ESO database can't handle it!? But it can handle 7 ALTs each with a horse maxed out for carrying stuff and max bag space, right? Don't kind yourself, there is no issue adding more bag or bank space. It can be done, and I see no reason it shouldn't be done, so long as prices continue to increase as before.

Would I use it? Nope. Would I use a higher item stack limit (i.e. > 100), yup. Would that cost the database anything? Nope.

I agree and it should handle it but look at the guild bank - why won't it load 50% of the time even during low population hours when nobody else is using your particular guild bank. Also remember during the first month there were those duping problems as well as problems with people losing slots/items. It took them months of increase the size from 20 to <whatever> for runes and it looks like they did that wrong. There is something really bad with the database design/implementation. I also think this is why they have steadily refused to have an Auction House.

LonePirate · August 2014

I am all in favor of adding more bag and bank space. These changes impact the character only unlike a skill change which can affect other players and the player's gameplay. Besides, this game needs more gold sinks.

Artemiisia · August 2014

Phantax wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

no

Always nice to see an insightful, well thought out and properly versed reply !

:O

Well if you cant be bothered with using the search feature of the forum, and use the other threads about it, I cant be bothered to give a straight answer

sotonin · August 2014

There's a reason these threads pop up almost daily. We need more storage.

cyqa · August 2014

I like the idea of trophies, pets, and costumes not counting as inventory space. I haven't purchased all the bank upgrades/bag upgrades/horse max'd yet so I can't really complain about bag space right now. I do find I run out of space hoarding things I want to research and mats for crafts. I actually thought the 100 stack number was pretty generous.

Nestor · August 2014

zhevon wrote: »

Sad to say but no - the ESO database clearly can't handle it.

Have you ever programmed? Have you ever built a database? Have you ever ran a Database? Or a Server Farm?

Its a couple of bytes per slot, that is only called up when an inventory screen is opened. It has no load or effect on the game play, combat, dungeon diving or any of that. Only when the Inventory window is open. Besides, we have Guild Banks with 500 slots. We also have the ability to pay more than 800,000 and have 240/120/50 bank spaces. BTW, an absurd sum of money for too small a space.

If this was a problem, then we would not be able to grow our banks. Larger bank space is not going to break the game. Only Paul's feelings because he wants people to mingle because they don't have enough bank space to do anything by themselves.

sotonin · August 2014

zhevon wrote: »

Sad to say but no - the ESO database clearly can't handle it.

This is amusing anytime somebody brings this up. Ever heard of Amazon? Ebay? Yeah? Same sort of databases and guess what they manage it just fine. ZOS is using the megaservers as an excuse for being lazy. There's absolutely NO technical reason why it can't be done. This is just artificial limiting.

Nazon_Katts · August 2014

Ironically, things people usually do in groups are perfectly solo-able, like anchors, world bosses, public dungeons and a good chunk of Craglorn, but crafting, which pretty much always has been a solo experience (with or without interdependencies) is treated with arbitrary limits to enforce socializing. That doesn't make sense at all to me.

Technical limitations however, make perfectly sense. And can be witnessed every day when you log in, just looking at what is missing, was taken from the game and refuses to work properly.

sotonin · August 2014

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Ironically, things people usually do in groups are perfectly solo-able, like anchors, world bosses, public dungeons and a good chunk of Craglorn, but crafting, which pretty much always has been a solo experience (with or without interdependencies) is treated with arbitrary limits to enforce socializing. That doesn't make sense at all to me.

Technical limitations however, make perfectly sense. And can be witnessed every day when you log in, just looking at what is missing, was taken from the game and refuses to work properly.

Yep. This game is single player. ZOS has designed it that way and further concreted it with the veteran changes. So yeah.

As far as technical limitations thats a failure on their part. not actual limitations.

ravenhartb14_ESO · August 2014

Armitas wrote: »

Tons of sets
Tons of trophies
Tons of provisioning ingredients
Tons of Alchemy ingredients
Tons of Enchanting ingredients
Tons of Trait stones.
Soon to be Tons of special armor cosmetic mats.

Not a lot of space to put them in.

I'd have to say ESO has one of the poorest inventory management systems I've seen, having played many RPGs and MMOs. The fact that the development team is focusing on new shiny things instead of fixing major flaws doesn't point to prolonged playability.

lycanslerwb17_ESO · August 2014

williams226 wrote: »

yes or can we unlock trade skill bags so they don't take up bank and inventory space somehow...

I like to horde stuff forever.

I,d like this please

Nermy · August 2014

I've said this before and I'll say it again. What we need is shared bank space and character bank space. Easy and would give each character 70+ spaces.

Kcttocs · August 2014

I think a good start would be to lower the price of bank space first. I mean to get to max bank space your looking at spending 768.5K gold. 85K gold to go from 230 to 240 slots for ten freaking slots! that's robbery! That's why so many people create mules. My main toon is V12, and I find it harder to accumulate gold now than when I was completing quests and leveling. End game for me is PvP, which so far pays poorly, gives no soul gems, but at least you don't have to worry about repair costs.