Broken Achievements

EmeraldEyes · August 2014

Navuri wrote: »

The achievement for the main quest line is broken too. I have almost completed the complete main quest line (over the course of several months) but the achievements all share the same date of completion.

Since the achievements weren't being tracked before update 3 they would have no way of knowing when you completed the each quest. This isn't broken it's just a limitation.

Silverminken wrote: »

I do not get why it would be so hard to award this achievement retroactively?
"Apprentice Deconstructor"

I can't disagree they could have. But is it really that hard to deconstruct items (from any crafting profession)? I mean I'm max Blacksmithing and woodworking but I still deconstruct blue or better quality items. From just playing the game I'm at 600 items deconstructed. So I'd say given the ease of this achievement it's not worth it to develop a formula at this point. Plus implementing such a formula into an already live achievement would be a nightmare.

MercyKilling wrote: »

And yet they can track them NOW, otherwise starting from scratch wouldn't matter.
Still say they should've let us PURCHASE the dyes with those useless "achievement points" we've been accumulating.

I've seen systems like that done incorrectly in so many games. I welcome this new system. I'm actually fishing for the first time in months because of the dye system and the fishing fixes.

MercyKilling wrote: »

Oh...and if they can track the points we've gotten...why couldn't they retroactively credit us with the achievements (and therefore dyes) that earned those points in the first place?

This doesn't make sense.

MercyKilling · August 2014

EmeraldEyes wrote: »

MercyKilling wrote: »

Oh...and if they can track the points we've gotten...why couldn't they retroactively credit us with the achievements (and therefore dyes) that earned those points in the first place?

This doesn't make sense.

Okay. I'll go slow.

You get achievement points every time you complete an achievement, right?

There's even a running total of achievement points under the tab of the same name.

Not to mention you have the ability to filter by "complete" and "incomplete" achievements.

What I'm saying is...with all this currently in place...why couldn't they track what we've accomplished and simply credit us with what we've earned so far instead of making us go back and do certain ones again?

Edit:

I'm going to go a step further and say....if these achievements and the dyes are account wide...why do some show for one character but not another if they have no way of tracking what we've accomplished per character?

To me, it reeks of incompetence. Or apathy, I'm not sure which would be worse.

EmeraldEyes · August 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

Okay. I'll go slow.

You get achievement points every time you complete an achievement, right?

There's even a running total of achievement points under the tab of the same name.

Not to mention you have the ability to filter by "complete" and "incomplete" achievements.

What I'm saying is...with all this currently in place...why couldn't they track what we've accomplished and simply credit us with what we've earned so far instead of making us go back and do certain ones again?

To me, it reeks of incompetence. Or apathy, I'm not sure which would be worse.

You're making a lot of assumptions here. Why would an achievement system track achievements that have not yet been coded? The fact that you think an achievement system would/should track any action a player does ingame shows how little you know about programming (hence why I said your initial question didn't make sense). In a perfect world where resources are infinite they could track every little thing we ever do and if, in the future, an achievement were to be added they could just, as you say, "retroactively reward us". However that would increase costs for storing all that data which lead to higher costs and possible a higher subscription fee for something that really wouldn't justify a cost increase. Additionally, there would also be a performance cost ingame as extra communication with the server to say, player x just picked a flower, increment their running total of nodes picked, alchemy flowers picked, and this flower type picked. Sure that doesn't currently impact the server much but if the number of track variables was tripled and increased further I bet player would notice.

EmeraldEyes · August 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

Edit:

I'm going to go a step further and say....if these achievements and the dyes are account wide...why do some show for one character but not another if they have no way of tracking what we've accomplished per character?

Achievements are not account wide. It's not there isn't way to track what one character does it's about what is and isn't being tracked. Also I believe dyes earned by one character can be used by any other character on your account.

MercyKilling · August 2014

EmeraldEyes wrote: »

You're making a lot of assumptions here. Why would an achievement system track achievements that have not yet been coded?

Umm...because I've earned points for achievements completed....THAT ARE ALREADY CODED. I find it difficult to believe you could be this obtuse about how achievements worked prior to the dye system announcement.

EmeraldEyes wrote: »

The fact that you think an achievement system would/should track any action a player does ingame shows how little you know about programming (hence why I said your initial question didn't make sense).

Except.....the system previously awarded you with achievement points for completing achievements and KEPT A RUNNING TOTAL OF THOSE POINTS FOR YOU. Hence, it tracks what you're doing to accomplish these achievements.

EmeraldEyes wrote: »

In a perfect world where resources are infinite they could track every little thing we ever do and if, in the future, an achievement were to be added they could just, as you say, "retroactively reward us".

Again...THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY THERE.

EmeraldEyes wrote: »

extra communication with the server to say, player x just picked a flower, increment their running total of nodes picked, alchemy flowers picked, and this flower type picked.

I.....have no words. So how do you suppose the game currently (or even previously) knows(knew) when you've deconstructed a set number of items for an achievement?
How does it know you've completed all the public dungeons of an area for the achievement?
How does it know you've explored all the special view areas of a map for the achievement?
How does it know you've gotten all the rare fish for a map for the achievement?

BECAUSE IT'S KEEPING TRACK OF THESE THINGS ALREADY. Well, before Zenimax broke them by adding dyes.

EmeraldEyes wrote: »

Achievements are not account wide. It's not there isn't way to track what one character does it's about what is and isn't being tracked. Also I believe dyes earned by one character can be used by any other character on your account.

Holy Mother of God, save my sanity. I WAS TALKING ABOUT DYES NOT SHOWING ON ALL MY CHARACTERS. I admit to borking the post and using "and" instead of "for". But it's still pretty clear I'm referring to dyes.

C'mon...somebody has to see what I'm trying to say here. I can't be botching communication up THAT badly.

EmeraldEyes · August 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

(Angry ranting due to failure to communicate their point at all)

You can't really be this arrogant can you? You either have literally no idea what you're talking about or you are absolutely awful at conveying your point.

MercyKilling wrote: »

I.....have no words. So how do you suppose the game currently (or even previously) knows(knew) when you've deconstructed a set number of items for an achievement?
How does it know you've completed all the public dungeons of an area for the achievement?
How does it know you've explored all the special view areas of a map for the achievement?
How does it know you've gotten all the rare fish for a map for the achievement?

BECAUSE IT'S KEEPING TRACK OF THESE THINGS ALREADY. Well, before Zenimax broke them by adding dyes.

The number of times you deconstructed items clearly wasn't tracked before they added the deconstruction achievement (which happened to added when dyes were added but doesn't actually have anything to do with dyes). Everything else you mentioned have been achievements since launch and were therefore tracked. I don't see what point you're trying to make.

Due to your failure to articulate what the heck you're trying to say I can only guess that either A] You think the developers should be tracking how many things you deconstructed since launch. If thats the case ready my last point. B] The fact that you could deconstruct items since launch means they were tracking it because you don't know the difference between performing an action and recording an action being performed.

MercyKilling · August 2014

Y'know....it becomes clear to me you're either

A] Just not getting what I'm saying. Too bad for you.

or

B] Deliberately trying to goad me....and you're not worth getting moderated over.

In either case, we're done here.

Edit: Because apparently a B followed by a ) makes a smiley. I really hate emoticons.

SirJesto · August 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

Y'know....it becomes clear to me you're either

A] Just not getting what I'm saying. Too bad for you.

or

B] Deliberately trying to goad me....and you're not worth getting moderated over.

In either case, we're done here.

Edit: Because apparently a B followed by a ) makes a smiley. I really hate emoticons.

Hopefully I can shed some light on this for you.

A) Some dyes I should have aren't showing up: You need to log into all characters that may have completed an achievement unique to those of any other characters you have. Then they will all show up for everyone.

B ) Didn't get credit for previously tracked Achievements: The only achievements that weren't being tracked before were the deconstructing ones. You should have got credit for all the others. If not, It's a bug.

C) Finding a Monster collectible is not giving me the achievement: To get the achievement to show up for monster collectibles you need to "Use" the collectible. This will consume it.

Cammagno · August 2014

I've completed the Banished Cells, and I got the "Vanquisher of the Banished Cells" achievement. But under the "Vanquisher of the Dominion" achievement, the Banished Cells entry is still greyed out.
I tried to complete that dungeon again, but nothing changed.
(screenshot available if needed)

Slovenian_Gamer · August 2014

I have completed all the Ebonheart Pact public dungeons achievements (prior to 1.3.3 update) and they were marked as completed. However, after the latest patch I don't have any of those achievements... Also I'm not going collect provisioning recipes because I have collected them all. Then how am I supposed to get it?

ZOS_JasonLeavey · August 2014

Hi there, @MercyKilling. In order to receive the Chitin Accumulator achievement, you'll have to consume the item once it's in your inventory. Let us know if that helped!

MeowGinger · August 2014

Cammagno wrote: »

I've completed the Banished Cells, and I got the "Vanquisher of the Banished Cells" achievement. But under the "Vanquisher of the Dominion" achievement, the Banished Cells entry is still greyed out.
I tried to complete that dungeon again, but nothing changed.
(screenshot available if needed)

I had this problem, too (completed Banished Cells months ago and got that Vanquisher achievement, but it wouldn't tick off for the Dominion achievement). I had finished all the other Dominion group dungeons, so the missing Banished Cells prevented me from receiving the Dominion vanquisher achievement. But then I got back-credited for it in 1.3.4, even though it wasn't mentioned in any patch notes.

Aluluei · August 2014

I was happy to see this morning that many of my previously bugged achievements/dyes had been fixed, such as the ones for learning recipes and racial styles.

However, I am still having a problem very similar to the one described by c0rp:

c0rp wrote: »

Theres an achievement that requires you to locate the 6 special interest points of Reapers March. I have found them all. My map shows them all "white" as discovered. My achievement page shows that WILLOW GROVE CAVERN has not been found. Which also prevents the higher AD achievement for finding all the special interest points in all the zones from activating. WHich also prevents the higher AD achievement of finding EVERYTHING in the zones from activating.

In my case it is Little Ozur's Camp which remains unchecked in the Reaper's March Pathfinder achievement list, no matter how many times I go over there and rough up Little Ozur and his friends. That achievement is a prerequisite for the Reaper's March Master Explorer achievement (and dye color Jode Red), which is in turn required for Aldmeri Master Explorer (and dye Ayleid Gold).

I put in a /help ticket about this, and the person who responded said that he could not manually fix it for me, and suggested that I report it via /bug, which I did.

Toxictoyoursanity · August 2014

N/A

PlagueMonk · August 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The following achievements are not retroactively provided for actions completed prior to v1.3.3 going live, and will need to be completed again to earn the dyes:
Apprentice Deconstructor

Apprentice of Refinement

Conqueror achievements

Epic Provisioning

Expert Deconstructor

Expert of Refinement

Grand Templar Slayer

Grand Sorcerer Slayer

Grand Dragonknight Slayer

Grand Nightblade Slayer

Iron Chef

Legendary Blacksmith

Legendary Woodworker

Legendary Clothier

Master Deconstructor

Master of Refinement

Renowned Provisioning

Vanquisher achievements

Mind explaining why Conqueror achievements are NOT retroactively provided? I understand if certain things were never tracked but if I gained a conqueror achievement that means I have killed ALL of the bosses in a certain dungeon and they were tracked.

I have been dutifully completing all of the Public dungeon bosses and am up to gold, area 2 completed (for me that's Grahtwood). I still have my EP area finished but I did notice I was missing my DC one and opened it up to find ALL of the bosses from Obsidian Scar and Bonesnap Ruins were removed.

Don't worry about me though, I am fed up with slow and often broken "fixes" so I spent last night RE-killing the bosses in those 2 public dungeons and regaining my already earned title (DC conqueror)

My biggest concern is why these achievements randomly break and have to wonder what else is broken that I haven't discovered yet.

BEZDNA · August 2014

Seems that "Expert of Refinement" achievement form Crafting:General tree is broken - this achievement mechanic works in wrong way.

In Description it is written that to earn this achievement you need to Refine 30/300/3000 raw material, but in fact for each successful attempt to refine 10 raw material you get only +1 credit to the achievement instead of +10. So that means you need to refine 300/3000/30000 raw material - sounds a bit insane, especially for those who passed all leveling/gathering stages and for long time plays only end-game content.

Would be nice to hear any response form Zenimax about this issue, thank you very much in advance.

coolert7eb17_ESO · August 2014

BEZDNA wrote: »

Seems that "Expert of Refinement" achievement form Crafting:General tree is broken - this achievement mechanic works in wrong way.

In Description it is written that to earn this achievement you need to Refine 30/300/3000 raw material, but in fact for each successful attempt to refine 10 raw material you get only +1 credit to the achievement instead of +10. So that means you need to refine 300/3000/30000 raw material - sounds a bit insane, especially for those who passed all leveling/gathering stages and for long time plays only end-game content.

Would be nice to hear any response form Zenimax about this issue, thank you very much in advance.

Yes. It very hard to take. 3000 points its about 9000+ times to gather any resourses to refine. Same tipe achivment "Master Deconstructor" more easy to make.

MercyKilling · August 2014

ZOS_JasonLeavey wrote: »

Hi there, @MercyKilling. In order to receive the Chitin Accumulator achievement, you'll have to consume the item once it's in your inventory. Let us know if that helped!

I stand corrected. Thanks ever so much...but I have a further question, if you would indulge me?

I don't remember anything detailing how that worked. What I mean to say is I don't recall where(if anywhere) that step is explained to me. Could you point me to it?

kungmoo · August 2014

not sure if its bad luck on my part, but i'm starting to think the Ilyadifish from the auridon angler achievement is no longer catchable. i have burned 400+ guts and haven't seen one.

zyr1987 · August 2014

An odd case of getting an achievement too early. I got the shattered remnants achievement, which is for doing all of the main story quests in the rift, after only clearing the Vernim Forest. This was a while ago and I cleared the rest as appropriate (I literally just cleared Cadwell's Silver tonight, and Cadwell's silver was why I was in the pact in the first place), so I can't get a screenshot, but I'm sure someone can

zgrssd · August 2014

"Vanquisher of the Dominion" seems to ingore "Vanquisher of the Banished Cells".

Chat links for both:
|H1:achievement:1075:4:0|h|h
|H1:achievement:325:3:1399488758|h|h

SirJesto · August 2014

zgrssd wrote: »

"Vanquisher of the Dominion" seems to ingore "Vanquisher of the Banished Cells".

Chat links for both:
|H1:achievement:1075:4:0|h|h
|H1:achievement:325:3:1399488758|h|h

I have the same problem exactly:

Razgar · August 2014

It seems the wording on the Master of Refinement is not matching the updates.

The wording says "Refine 3000 raw materials". It takes 10 raw materials to do 1 refinement, to me this means I need 3000 raw materials, and have to do 300 refinements.

It is only counting one tick every time I refine 10 raw materials, it is going to take 30000 raw materials to get this achievement.

It needs to be corrected or reworded.

Cammagno · August 2014

MeowGinger wrote: »

Cammagno wrote: »

I've completed the Banished Cells, and I got the "Vanquisher of the Banished Cells" achievement. But under the "Vanquisher of the Dominion" achievement, the Banished Cells entry is still greyed out.
I tried to complete that dungeon again, but nothing changed.
(screenshot available if needed)

I had this problem, too (completed Banished Cells months ago and got that Vanquisher achievement, but it wouldn't tick off for the Dominion achievement). I had finished all the other Dominion group dungeons, so the missing Banished Cells prevented me from receiving the Dominion vanquisher achievement. But then I got back-credited for it in 1.3.4, even though it wasn't mentioned in any patch notes.

1.3.4 didn't work for me, but later, when I completed City of Ash, Spindleclutch and Crypt of Hearts (I did them in a row, so I don't know if one of them is enough and which one), I also get the Banished Cells entry activated. Very strange indeed.

trustcotraptb14_ESO · August 2014

A lot of my achievement dates have been "reset" to 8/5/2014, I think this is the day I re subbed my account. I completed a lot of achievements in April but yet they are showing as completed on August 5th.

zgrssd · August 2014

trustcotraptb14_ESO wrote: »

A lot of my achievement dates have been "reset" to 8/5/2014, I think this is the day I re subbed my account. I completed a lot of achievements in April but yet they are showing as completed on August 5th.

A friend of mine had "time in inbox" for in game mail going back years into the past.
But this might just have been his windows giving the game faulty dates (it was not the only oddity of his computer).

reften · August 2014

I am currently short of the Exploration: Aldmeri Dominion achievement (along with several others) because my journal didn't update.

My journal says I need to "find" Little Ozur's camp and Willowgrove Cavern.

Well, I have those two spots solid white and as "found" on my map. I have visited them a few times just to make sure.

Anyone else have this problem? Know bug?

Thanks, Reften

Ourorboros · August 2014

Razgar wrote: »

It seems the wording on the Master of Refinement is not matching the updates.

The wording says "Refine 3000 raw materials". It takes 10 raw materials to do 1 refinement, to me this means I need 3000 raw materials, and have to do 300 refinements.

It is only counting one tick every time I refine 10 raw materials, it is going to take 30000 raw materials to get this achievement.

It needs to be corrected or reworded.

The way ZOS handled this achievement is a real ball buster. Not only am I level 50 in all 4 professions with mats harvested from nodes, I actually earned
Grand Master Crafting Harvester Harvest any crafting materials 10000 times.
I guess ZOS thinks I sold all those mat instead of refining them to level my professions. Or I guess they could ALL have been alchemy nodes. Sarcasm aside, it seems there are several measurements that could have been used to award this achievement retroactively. As it stands, I've been working my adze off harvesting everywhere I go, and I've barely made a dent in this achievement.

Aenra · August 2014

if someone is willing to help me out here, reading the OP tells me that as of right now, the only fishing achievement currently broken is the Glenumbra one. everything else working as intended.

anyone with a different experience?

Zed · September 2014

Aenra wrote: »

if someone is willing to help me out here, reading the OP tells me that as of right now, the only fishing achievement currently broken is the Glenumbra one. everything else working as intended.

anyone with a different experience?

I've fished about two thirds of the game (AD, EP, Cyrodiil, Coldharbour, most of Craglorn) and all of the achievements for those seem to be working. Not perfectly, of course. You can still only catch rare Rift lake fish in Auridon at the moment, guts don't drop for anyone over level 5 (or was that 6?), and Reaper's March green fish still replace Coldharbour's in the journal.

I know it's listed in the original post, but the Craglorn delve I'm having problems with is Rkundzelft. The individual delve achievement is unlocked but it doesn't show in the achievement for exploring all delves.