lycrates wrote: »

Audigy wrote: »

lycrates wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

Um, excuse me but SCREW WoW. Ah, that feels better. The less like that thing the better as far as I am concerned.

Not exactly a very constructive comment. You don't have to like everything about WoW, but I don't think that simply mentioning a good idea from WoW is bad in any way.

Personally, I would also like to see some quicker form of PvP too. Many people don't always have time to dedicate to Cyrodill type of PvP. I don't think ZOS should be as scared to experiment with more forms of PvP.

Ok lets get to the facts then shall we?

Scenarios have no meaningful rewards or challenge and are always the same 15 minutes story lines --> pointless

Small Scale pvp which is free has no meaningful rewards and you only waste your time there while you are the Cannon Fodder for bored Gladiators that did Arena or ranked ---> pointless

Those "good" idea´s are in reality bad and one of the reasons why WOW is bleeding subs since they were introduced.


Content that should be added is

- Housing
- Professions like Horse Breeder, Farmer
- 1v1 Arena with a real Ladder
- Justice System with open world pvp
- Dynamic Events that influence your reputation among guilds and towns folk
- Performance patches to reduce lag and fps drops

Scenarios DO have meaningful rewards. You get Valor points that you can use to upgrade your gear. So there is definitely a reason to do it, and when I queue up for a scenario I am instantly placed in a group because of the huge number of people running them for Valor points. Scenarios are perfect, short little casual group encounters that you can just hop in a do. They perfectly cover that hole in content.

But I completely agree that the should be Housing (I cant believe that there isn't), a 1v1 Arena (not everyone likes the zergy Cyrodill PvP) and some more Dynamic events (if done well)

Meaningful for WoW mean nothing in ESO. WoW is about GEAR. How to get GEAR.

ESO is also about Gear. One of 20 MAIN things in ESO is gear.

WoW has 3 things. Gear, Raids, Battlegrounds. WoW is great at that....want it? Go play wow!

GFBStarWars wrote: »

dungeon can be already done in 20 min ( not talking about coh but all others), so a nice casual thing already exist, there is just no reward for it.

Well making content that already exists to be continuously rewarding would definitely help the game a lot. I will definitely agree to that. One of the things I believe that WoW has done well was to include the Justice/Valor point system which gives you and excuse and a reward to keep doing content like Dungeons and Scenarios. ESO absolutely needs something like that.

Welid wrote: »

I enjoy PVP but what we have with ESO does not satisfy me. The type of PVP which I enjoy is small scale PVP where individuals contribution makes a difference. At the moment is faction vs faction and regardless of how good you are is organised guilds that make the difference.

There are lots of games with small scale PvP.

ESO is WARFARE.....

And I wun fights in PuG groups on EU server, Bloodthorn, several times. Some commander takes control and the rest follows.

This is WAR! Not 2v2.

Maybe its not the game for you then?

Player Housing (if done right). It may not be the popular approach but I think housing needs to integrate into the game seamlessly. Not by allowing players to toss up a house all over the landscape. That would just ruin the world. No, place houses in cities and towns which are just as fixed as the existing buildings. But each 'house' can contain multiple occupants. When you buy a house you get a unique key that links to that particular instance of the house. So when you go inside it's your house you enter, not some other person's. Can even give out guest keys to friends.

But player housing is a very resource hungry feature. Every player has to have room on the server for their data (house/furnishing). No point in having a house if you can't decorate it the way you want. Has to have real utility, such as weapons racks, armor dummies, bookshelves, etc. That's a lot of data to add into the game. Not to mention the server having to run thousands of instances of everyone's house. So, very resource heavy request.

But, I guess it can be done. The game that shall not be mentioned is kind of doing this in their next expansion.

That same game has a really big variety of vanity content. Though the players all look pretty much the same, they offset that with a huge number of pets/mounts/spell effects. None of which is in any way useful in combat, but it helps players be more unique. Which is what every player strives for. The new dye system is all about players creating their own unique look, or...heck... being in a guild with 'guild colors'.

So, more vanity content.

More quests. In Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim my most downloaded mod was/is well crafted quest mods.

As for pvp. I don't know if they can do anything about it. Any game I've played the pvp is a fail. I don't think it can be done programaticaly (sp). I like the idea of the Justice System which can bring limited pvp into the world. Though I can see it being bigger than that. People are going to create their own versions of the Thieve's Guild or Dark Brotherhood. It will go beyond individuals having a bounty on their head to an entire guild gutting everyone in town so they are all pvp flagged as a group. I may not take part in it, but it could be damn fun to watch a group of twenty or so bounty hunters trying to collect off a group of 20 or so Brigands.

Unpredictable dynamic content. I once had the idea while playing that game no one wants to mention it would be cool that if on this run from point A to point B, which I've done a million times before, some dynamically generated instance gets spawned. That I encounter some woman being chased by two guys with swords. It's instanced, of course, not part of the 'normal' world. Just something for me, and me alone. And, I may never do it again. Be a lot of coding, of course, but these could be created. Just really small content that may not give much reward, but can and would break up the monotony of a very static world, which all MMOs are. With this system in place, you just never know what will happen!

Muletide wrote: »

I've found myself to enjoy Skirmishes, as found in Neverwinter and LotRO. Just some 15-20 minute fast paced PVE battles with a little story that are repeatable.

I have noticed that all modern mainstream MMOs except ESO have short PvE encounters that you can automatically queue up and do. Scenarios in WoW, Adventures in Wildstart, Skirmishes in Neverwinter, Rift has something which I forgot the name and FF XIV also has a couple of different times of short PvE content.

I think content like that is super important because it closes a huge gap in available content. ESO could desperately use something like that.

Zorrashi wrote: »

I don't really want 'real' content (i.e dungeons) so much as I want "fluff". Mini games, poker, more instruments to play, more random encounters.....yeah. Stuff of that nature.

Oh, and is it too much to ask for a space to put my character's bio? I know it doesn't really matter but...please? I imagine its easy.

I basically want things where I don't necessarily have to be a specific lvl to participate.

Pet Battles!!! lol, I am just kidding, Pokémon in Tamriel would just be silly, but I would also definitely like to see more fluff. I guess the Crime system could be considered to be fluff so I am glad that they are at least coming out with something.

What else would be fun Fluff that would go well with the world of Tamriel? I am going to have to think about it maybe I will post something tomorrow.

More fun items to collect that really have no "true" gameplay purpose and are just fun, like the quest trophies.
Player housing...
More sandbox mechanics.
More influencing the world as a player.

I dont have time to read the thread, so I just throw in a few thoughts.

Cyrodiil:

Alot more small objects or tasks to perform all over the map. These things should benefit your Campaign in one way or Another. This would help spreading out players all over the map, expecially Deep into enemy territory. Would make it far more interesting.

Skip far travel to forward camps too.

well instead of 6 week updates, maybe 3 month updates more time for the bugs to be fixed