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Please reduce the cost of rspec
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reften✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just to put the rumors to rest, when we release Update 3 the respec costs will be 1 gold per skill point and stat point. This will last for about a week, and then costs will go back to normal. However, note that the new "normal" amount will be slightly cheaper than what you're currently paying for a respec.
Hope this helps!
Arg. Traveling in August for a week. Would suck to miss. Any idea on release date?Reften
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j4k3s7a✭✭The higher cost of respecs was to prevent people from constantly doing it. If you are limited on respecs, than there are some consequences to your choices.
If your cost is only 4k, than you only have 40 skill points. Why do feel the need to respec this early? Leveling a new skill or ability this early in the game takes about 5 minutes. The problems arise when you're in the later stages of the game and have 250 skillpoints and only need to reset 1 morph. This cost is being addressed, as well.
Forgive my ignorance, but why is respecing constantly a bad thing? At low levels you just don't know your class and at high levels I want to play around with different builds. With the freedom ESO gives you it's hard for me to see why i should be penalized for experimenting.
I'm not saying I want respecing to be free or even cheaper. I've just seen this argument across many MMOs and don't know the thought process behind it.2 -
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✭The low-cost morph respec is the most important part.
Please don't forget to add that
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Ratbag AD Warden Tank
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Daethz✭✭✭Suggestion: All players with Stamina Abilities specced into get a free respec for both types of points.
Help us respec to the required staff spec by helping us not deplete our wallets.Waiting, and watching, for the return of Melee Weapons.
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ozgod22_eso✭✭✭
I don't mind paying 100g per skill point I want to change. I just don't want to have to pay to reset all of them if I only want to change a morph.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just to put the rumors to rest, when we release Update 3 the respec costs will be 1 gold per skill point and stat point. This will last for about a week, and then costs will go back to normal. However, note that the new "normal" amount will be slightly cheaper than what you're currently paying for a respec.
Hope this helps!
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amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭The higher cost of respecs was to prevent people from constantly doing it. If you are limited on respecs, than there are some consequences to your choices.
If your cost is only 4k, than you only have 40 skill points. Why do feel the need to respec this early? Leveling a new skill or ability this early in the game takes about 5 minutes. The problems arise when you're in the later stages of the game and have 250 skillpoints and only need to reset 1 morph. This cost is being addressed, as well.
Forgive my ignorance, but why is respecing constantly a bad thing? At low levels you just don't know your class and at high levels I want to play around with different builds. With the freedom ESO gives you it's hard for me to see why i should be penalized for experimenting.
I'm not saying I want respecing to be free or even cheaper. I've just seen this argument across many MMOs and don't know the thought process behind it.
Because your choice should mean something. You shouldn't just be able to change the entire foundation of your character on a whim just because you got an itch up your butt to do so. Decisions like race, appearance, class, and build should mean something, and while I fully support an ingame option to respec, it shouldn't be easy to just constantly do over and over and over again.
I'd like some semblance of the RP in MMORPG to remain in tact, instead of the entire genre becoming nothing more than a min / max fest of changing anything and everything on demand just because you want to do something new. The immersion in this game (and other MMO's) is already bad enough as it is... at some point it shows when they aren't even trying anymore.Edited by amm7sb14_ESO on August 1, 2014 3:15AM2 -
I'm all for being able to change individual skills / morphs. But in this case, 100g is way too cheap. It should be around 2000-5000g (like the poster above mentioned, otherwise it would become a joke if you can change an individual skill for basically nothing).
I don't mind the costs of respeccing that much, but I hate to redeposit 200+ skill points when I just want to change a single morph.0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just to put the rumors to rest, when we release Update 3 the respec costs will be 1 gold per skill point and stat point. This will last for about a week, and then costs will go back to normal. However, note that the new "normal" amount will be slightly cheaper than what you're currently paying for a respec.
Hope this helps!
I really wish you could tell us more about the new "normal" and "slightly cheaper" definitions. Sorry but I don't trust you guys with subtleties anymore. Is it just that you haven't decided yet? I honestly wouldn't care if it was the same price as the current amount if we could just respec the skills we need to. It's a real hassle to respec and then have to spend 70 points instead of maybe 10 or so that I actually want to.
I doubt theyll introduce individual skill respecs any time soon. Those systems are not in game atm and theyd have to code them from scratch.
The respec system is in the game, they just need to narrow the scope and add the new line to the respec shrine, with some skill screen ui additions. Its not something they'd have to start from scratch from.0 -
ozgod22_eso✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote:
Because your choice should mean something. You shouldn't just be able to change the entire foundation of your character on a whim just because you got an itch up your butt to do so. Decisions like race, appearance, class, and build should mean something, and while I fully support an ingame option to respec, it shouldn't be easy to just constantly do over and over and over again.
I'd like some semblance of the RP in MMORPG to remain in tact, instead of the entire genre becoming nothing more than a min / max fest of changing anything and everything on demand just because you want to do something new. The immersion in this game (and other MMO's) is already bad enough as it is... at some point it shows when they aren't even trying anymore.
This is where I get confused. How does it affect RPers if respec costs are reduced? If you wish you can never respec your character irrespective of the cost, for full immersion. If you want to RP a class that gradually learns things and has to take time to relearn something new then just don't respec for a long period of time. Why enforce this "your choice should mean something" to everyone else? Some peoples choices did mean something at the time, but they didn't know what the alternatives were.
That said I agree with a respec tax. I just don't think it's reasonable to charge people the full amount for tweaking your character compared to completely changing it. Especially morphs. Those are really the main issue IMO. Because you won't really know whether you will enjoy a morphed skill until you try it. Some people like making educated choices - try one morph, then try another, then decide what fits your play style best. Tax them for their change by all means but only for what they changed.2 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭Respec should always be free. As a compromise, why not put a 7 day cool down on it while remaining free to do so. Gating anything in a subscription based system is a slap in the face but that's for another thread.0
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just to put the rumors to rest, when we release Update 3 the respec costs will be 1 gold per skill point and stat point. This will last for about a week, and then costs will go back to normal. However, note that the new "normal" amount will be slightly cheaper than what you're currently paying for a respec.
Hope this helps!
Why are you lowering the cost?
I can understand a short time low cost to let people respec who made a mistake or want to change or something.
But by making Respec possible per week or even per month, does not that take away some of the "magic" who your character is?
Simple question, why are you lowering the respec cost? Being able to respec is more then enough (So you dont have to make a new char).
Should not respec be something you consider carefully and NOT do because Zenimax fixed a broken skill somewhere and the person want THAT skill all of a sudden.....for free!Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »The higher cost of respecs was to prevent people from constantly doing it. If you are limited on respecs, than there are some consequences to your choices.
If your cost is only 4k, than you only have 40 skill points. Why do feel the need to respec this early? Leveling a new skill or ability this early in the game takes about 5 minutes. The problems arise when you're in the later stages of the game and have 250 skillpoints and only need to reset 1 morph. This cost is being addressed, as well.
Forgive my ignorance, but why is respecing constantly a bad thing? At low levels you just don't know your class and at high levels I want to play around with different builds. With the freedom ESO gives you it's hard for me to see why i should be penalized for experimenting.
I'm not saying I want respecing to be free or even cheaper. I've just seen this argument across many MMOs and don't know the thought process behind it.
Because your choice should mean something. You shouldn't just be able to change the entire foundation of your character on a whim just because you got an itch up your butt to do so. Decisions like race, appearance, class, and build should mean something, and while I fully support an ingame option to respec, it shouldn't be easy to just constantly do over and over and over again.
I'd like some semblance of the RP in MMORPG to remain in tact, instead of the entire genre becoming nothing more than a min / max fest of changing anything and everything on demand just because you want to do something new. The immersion in this game (and other MMO's) is already bad enough as it is... at some point it shows when they aren't even trying anymore.
I have to agree with this whole statement. Respecing should be possible, but only as a last resort.Because your choice should mean something. You shouldn't just be able to change the entire foundation of your character on a whim just because you got an itch up your butt to do so. Decisions like race, appearance, class, and build should mean something, and while I fully support an ingame option to respec, it shouldn't be easy to just constantly do over and over and over again.
Please listen to this. CHOICES is one of the MAIN thing that is quite unique about ESO compared to other MMOs. You have the WORLD to choose.....but you pick it....you get it.
Please dont take this away.Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"0 -
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just to put the rumors to rest, when we release Update 3 the respec costs will be 1 gold per skill point and stat point. This will last for about a week, and then costs will go back to normal. However, note that the new "normal" amount will be slightly cheaper than what you're currently paying for a respec.
Hope this helps!
Will there be single-skill respecs anytime soon? I don't mind high costs (it should be expensive otherwise it will be abused), but I hate redistributing 200+ skill points when I just want to change a single skill.
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✭✭Forgive my ignorance, but why is respecing constantly a bad thing?
It's not a bad thing. Nobody can give concrete reasons why it would be.
The problem is ZOS decided that respecs would be a gold sink. There aren't many gold sinks in the game, not until housing. They also decided we have to respec everything even if we just want to reclaim a few points.
Respecs shouldn't be cheap but they also shouldn't be as expensive as they were. 100g per point and you have to respec every point even if you're happy with 95% to 99% of your skills? That was nuts.
I had three points in one hand + shield I wanted to respec into destruction staff. It would have cost me 7100g to respec, which is a large chunk of change for my level. I had to stop spending skill points with that character because each point spent meant my respec would cost even more, even though I'd be putting those points right back in the same skills. I also didn't want to continue questing because I wanted that quest XP to go to my new destruction skills.
Luckily patch 1.3 was only a week away so I messed around with some low level alts until today, but if it wasn't I would have had to respec ASAP in order to avoid a larger expense later, for the same three skill points I wanted to respec.Edited by Holycannoli on August 5, 2014 6:33AM0