mobs of high levels doing anchors?

  • Molisin01
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    We did. It's the boss we are after. Sorry for inturrupting your play, but we want those dyes.

    I think the folks at ZOS and us lowbies will laugh their behinds off when the high levels soloing those dolmens find out that the dyes may not be for titled achievements, but for achievements like Treasure chest hunter, Grand Master Crafting Harvester, Greater Dungeon Blocker, and the Group Challenges.
  • bosmern_ESO
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    Most likely they are going for achievements for Dyes. I currently going through and getting 100% on all maps but If i see low levels doing a dungeon or boss I wont interfere so I don't take away from their experience.
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    We did. It's the boss we are after. Sorry for inturrupting your play, but we want those dyes.

    I think the folks at ZOS and us lowbies will laugh their behinds off when the high levels soloing those dolmens find out that the dyes may not be for titled achievements, but for achievements like Treasure chest hunter, Grand Master Crafting Harvester, Greater Dungeon Blocker, and the Group Challenges.

    you do realize that the dyes are up on pts and the achievements for them are very clear. they will in fact get dyes for the achievements they are hunting.

    Being a lowbie doesn't excuse being clueless.
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  • Artemiisia
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    Wow mobs are doing the dolmens now? This game pretty much runs itself!

    didnt you hear :)

    we found out how to convert them, by becoming a priest :D
  • theyancey
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    I have no problem with it at all. Their sub spends just as well as mine or yours. My lvl 30 alt did two today, one a few levels higher and the other one that she had missed in a lower zone. I would not have been able to do the higher lvl dolmem without the others help. I just cast heals on the other players doing the lower one.
  • Srugzal
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    I am VR3 and have plenty of anchors to go back and do - but if I do them I'll make sure any lower level players are not disadvantaged and are allowed to get hits in.

    I am going back and doing some big map bosses too - in fact I have helped out there a couple of times when there were just a couple of lower level players who would have got mushed into the sand without me being there.

    Lower and higher level players can all get along fine on the same map as long as we show each other a bit of respect and realise neither of us have exclusive rights to anything - it's an MMO after all.

    Exactly.

    And besides, you never know whether the supposedly low level player has 3 Veteran Level alts, and it just leveling a new toon. Never take anything for granted, treat people the way you want to be treated, and it'll all work out in the end.

    I'll be sure to slot heals next time I go on a dolmen/world boss run, that's a good idea. ;-)
  • Elridge
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    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    I wouldn't feel like waiting at one of those Dolmens/Bosses for 30+minutes just for someone to come along and help, so yea I go back to do them too. Why wait around for something you can easily do later? Especially when really all you need to do is poke the boss once to get credit, and considering it pretty much announces the exact spot it will spawn, well before it does, that is a pretty easy thing to do
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    We did. It's the boss we are after. Sorry for inturrupting your play, but we want those dyes.

    I think the folks at ZOS and us lowbies will laugh their behinds off when the high levels soloing those dolmens find out that the dyes may not be for titled achievements, but for achievements like Treasure chest hunter, Grand Master Crafting Harvester, Greater Dungeon Blocker, and the Group Challenges.

    and just so you know alot of the dye achievements have already been announced. So the people hunting those achievements for the dyes, probably already have a list of achievements they want to get done for the specific dyes they are after. I guess instead of lowbies complaining they should prolly go and do a bit more research
    Edited by Elridge on August 3, 2014 12:15AM
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  • Zabus
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    It's the General Executioner achievement, it takes hundreds of dolmens to get. I've done about 100 and have half of them, my friend has done 300 and is still missing a couple generals.
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  • Molisin01
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    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    We did. It's the boss we are after. Sorry for inturrupting your play, but we want those dyes.

    I think the folks at ZOS and us lowbies will laugh their behinds off when the high levels soloing those dolmens find out that the dyes may not be for titled achievements, but for achievements like Treasure chest hunter, Grand Master Crafting Harvester, Greater Dungeon Blocker, and the Group Challenges.

    you do realize that the dyes are up on pts and the achievements for them are very clear. they will in fact get dyes for the achievements they are hunting.

    Being a lowbie doesn't excuse being clueless.

    I am sorry, but I don't see where ZOS can't change their mind about something that is on the test server, which is why they call it a 'TEST' server. Doesn't mean it will happen just like it does there...hmm.. clueless - Plenty of games have test servers and not all content makes it into the game. So like I said before, I and any other low rank whom you jerk high levels think that you can come into our areas and stomp all over us, will "laugh our behinds off" when the joke is on you.
  • GreySix
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    I'm an iconoclast, so one of my main sources of fun is ruining the fun of others.
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  • Molisin01
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    ...But then again ZOS has a history of not listening to players... so I am probably wrong and I should have checked PTS beforehand, but that still does not excuse those high levels who actually attempt to spam their firepower so as to not let the low levels get a shot in beforehand.
  • Armianlee
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    Molisin01 wrote: »
    ...But then again ZOS has a history of not listening to players...

    The massive amounts of nerfs to bosses, VR content and constant rebalancing of classes/skills hints at that being untrue.
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  • GreySix
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    Armianlee wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    ...But then again ZOS has a history of not listening to players...

    The massive amounts of nerfs to bosses, VR content and constant rebalancing of classes/skills hints at that being untrue.

    True, though had they simply facilitated grouping where solo play is forced, nerfing wouldn't have been necessary.

    Played the Doshia dungeon the other night, and was flabbergasted that it was so much of a push-over than we had previously experienced.
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  • Elridge
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    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    We did. It's the boss we are after. Sorry for inturrupting your play, but we want those dyes.

    I think the folks at ZOS and us lowbies will laugh their behinds off when the high levels soloing those dolmens find out that the dyes may not be for titled achievements, but for achievements like Treasure chest hunter, Grand Master Crafting Harvester, Greater Dungeon Blocker, and the Group Challenges.

    you do realize that the dyes are up on pts and the achievements for them are very clear. they will in fact get dyes for the achievements they are hunting.

    Being a lowbie doesn't excuse being clueless.

    I am sorry, but I don't see where ZOS can't change their mind about something that is on the test server, which is why they call it a 'TEST' server. Doesn't mean it will happen just like it does there...hmm.. clueless - Plenty of games have test servers and not all content makes it into the game. So like I said before, I and any other low rank whom you jerk high levels think that you can come into our areas and stomp all over us, will "laugh our behinds off" when the joke is on you.

    do you really think they would change the dye system around just on a whim, 2 days before it goes live? Fine if you want to grasp at straws for the sake of a debate go ahead, but dyes aside people have been trying to get those achievements before dyes were even announced. Plus since when are areas owned by players? Calling an area yours, just because you are in the zone questing, doesn't make it so. And saying "Stomp all over us" is being just a bit of a drama queen... they came in killed a boss, you were too slow to poke it once to get credit
    Edited by Elridge on August 3, 2014 1:33AM
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  • Molisin01
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    Thairus wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    no need to be upset about Vets coming in on low level Dolmens.

    just a thought here, but shouldn't these high levels have done them when they were leveling that area?

    We did. It's the boss we are after. Sorry for inturrupting your play, but we want those dyes.

    I think the folks at ZOS and us lowbies will laugh their behinds off when the high levels soloing those dolmens find out that the dyes may not be for titled achievements, but for achievements like Treasure chest hunter, Grand Master Crafting Harvester, Greater Dungeon Blocker, and the Group Challenges.

    you do realize that the dyes are up on pts and the achievements for them are very clear. they will in fact get dyes for the achievements they are hunting.

    Being a lowbie doesn't excuse being clueless.

    I am sorry, but I don't see where ZOS can't change their mind about something that is on the test server, which is why they call it a 'TEST' server. Doesn't mean it will happen just like it does there...hmm.. clueless - Plenty of games have test servers and not all content makes it into the game. So like I said before, I and any other low rank whom you jerk high levels think that you can come into our areas and stomp all over us, will "laugh our behinds off" when the joke is on you.

    Fine if you want to grasp at straws for the sake of a debate go ahead, but dyes aside people have been trying to get those achievements before dyes were even announced.

    Hmm.. I have to comment on this one. If people have been trying to "get those achievements before dyes were even announced," then why all of a sudden two weeks ago approx. did squads of 4 to six high levels start shown up at dolmens regularly where I had not seen maybe one or two high levels max at one or two dolmens in the low zones rarely across the last two months while I have been playing quite regularly. The several I had seen previously are no problem, we can work around them. Now, however, it is quite hard to get a hit on a mob with multiple high levels running around killing things at the dolmen.
  • Elridge
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    @Molisin01 because when they were previously at those lvls no one was doing Dolmens or Bosses, so you would be waiting there for 30min-Hour just for one person to come help you (and still die because they were much harder before the nerf). I had the same issue, so I skipped them and came back later. The problem was there were too few people that high of a level at the time (which is why alot of them opted to jump into craglorn). The veteran areas were ghost towns for awhile where it was fairly common to go hours without seeing another player when you weren't in the town. If you look at the floor, its quite obvious where a mob will spawn, especially the bosses, the floor lights up a good 5-10 seconds before they actually pop up.
    Edited by Elridge on August 3, 2014 4:08AM
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  • Molisin01
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    [quote="Thairus;1162383(which is why alot of them opted to jump into craglorn). [/quote]

    well that is their issue. Now they are making it an our issue and certain people say that we need to be faster to "poke" the monster, and there are many low levels in the zones of their level that say "go home hibees" We shouldn't have to be faster, or stronger or anything else just because VRs are in the zone. I am am willing to say that their actions quite possibly equate to 'griefing' as in the Wikipedia definition "Griefing is the act of chronically causing consternation to other members of an online community, or more specifically, intentionally disrupting the immersion of another player in their gameplay."
  • Shennynerd
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    Molisin01 wrote: »
    "go home hibees"

    Is that a word?


    I sincerely doubt that people are specifically trying to grief you out of a dolmen, unless you're making an ass of yourself which doesn't solve anything anyway. When I was farming them I didn't give a thought to whether or not the lowbies trying to do them were getting credit. I assumed that if they poked any mob they got credit. I'd leave the pinions up for them, but almost always we would end up with two or more pinions waiting to be broken, and they'd just stand there with "duhhh" on their faces. If I ever blocked someone from credit then I apologize, wasn't my intent at all.

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  • Molisin01
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    I will say this. Some of the higher levels are fine to work alongside with and give us a chance to get credit. However, it is those that get there and just do the dolmen as if no one else was around -and assume that we can get a hit in in the few seconds that the mob is being hit by the VRs that are a concern. Honestly in my opinion it looks part of a guild that is doing these things since the ones who I have seen doing this are all VR 12 and all there at the same time. I do appreciate the help from the high levels in letting us close down the dolmen and then just hit the boss once or twice so they can get the credit and then so can we. I am not sure how the pinions affect the achievements except for the x amount of pinions we have to close for one achievement. Its those higher levels who expect us to be faster then their weapon skills can kill a mob, especially if we are on the otherside of the anchor that are the problem. It has been said before that we should be able to get at least one hit in if we are "fast" enough, however, I believe that advice works the same both ways.
    If a VR hits a low level mob from a dolmen, then he or she could more than likely bring it down to half health at least with one hit. If we hit the same mob, then we don't really have that luck. I don't believe you have to kill a boss in order to get the credit for killing it.

    edit: we still would like to get credit for the mobs for the monster hunter achievement as well, and most of the mobs that pop down are killed on the spot by VR level characters before we can aim.
    Edited by Molisin01 on August 3, 2014 5:00AM
  • lathbury
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    I can say I was looking for achievements since I finished the story but my priority was all vet dungeon, tamriel hero, saviour of nirn, then sky shards. Now I have done those I will be going for daedric lord destroyer, explorer then the exploration ones.
    I have no idea what dyes are attached to them I just want the titles and some bragging rights amongst my friends. So expect to see me in the lower zones again soon. Try to understand that I'm not there to impact your experience negatively. If you feel I am doing something that is let me know at the time and I will stop whatever it is. I'm sure this goes for most if not all the high level players in those zones.
    It wouldn't help my other reason for being there namely recruiting new guild mates if I was deliberately running round ruining their experience.
    In short instead of coming to the forums to gripe ask the high level player what it is they are trying to achieve explain if they have done something to annoy you and 9/10 I would say they' ll apologise and try to help you out.
  • Armianlee
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    GreySix wrote: »
    Armianlee wrote: »
    Molisin01 wrote: »
    ...But then again ZOS has a history of not listening to players...

    The massive amounts of nerfs to bosses, VR content and constant rebalancing of classes/skills hints at that being untrue.

    True, though had they simply facilitated grouping where solo play is forced, nerfing wouldn't have been necessary.

    Played the Doshia dungeon the other night, and was flabbergasted that it was so much of a push-over than we had previously experienced.

    I played through her the other day on my new toon. Pretty sure I just sneezed on her and she fell over. In fact, most of the 1-15 bosses are nothing but a snoozefest now.

    On point with the OP though, I echo what most of said here. I am going back and getting things I missed (achievement-wise) with my VR10.
    Edited by Armianlee on August 3, 2014 2:37PM
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  • Elad13
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    Basically because during leveling some anchors were empty and the time/effort/reward was not balanced...then they added the chest drop to the anchors...but again the drops were usually weaker then what you can craft. So many people just left them....now there's a reward tied to them so yeah expect to see the anchors farmed for about 2 weeks. Then expect to see higher anchors empty in the vet areas.
  • Skillgannon
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    Im guilty as charged, i also run on my VR12 Sorcerer around and do caves, dolmen and stuff for the achievements :blush:
    When its possible i go slow so that low lvl ppl get the achievement too :smile:
  • Reiterpallasch
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    You would think by vet levels that they'd realize that they don't need to steamroll each and every mob as it spawns, treating it as some kind of race to see how fast they can kill everything without someone else getting to partake in the fight.

    I have no problem with them farming achievements, but ffs kill a couple things and then stand to the side so the rest of us can get credit too.
  • GreySix
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    See folks talking about toons. What the heck is a toon?
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  • Armianlee
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    I use it as a different name for alt. My only real character is my main, the only one that I use across all games and value. The rest are just disconnected alternates, I do not feel an attachment to them, hence toon. More to the provided third definition/explanation than the first two. Though, I have heard people use it to describe ALL their in game characters.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toon&defid=5529111
    http://www.internetslang.com/TOON-meaning-definition.asp
    http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/77192/what-is-the-source-for-calling-your-characters-toons
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  • GreySix
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    Oh, so alternate characters.

    Thanks for the clarification. :)
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  • Lord_Hev
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    I farmed VR 2 & 4 anchors(Deshaan & Eastmarch) for the Daedric Lord Slayer achievement, Pre-VR nerf. As a VR 4. Got it in like... a week.

    These herds of VR 12s farming low-level anchors?? No excuse. They can solo/duo farm VR 1 - 4 anchors easily, all the while having more fun with a decent experience, and get sellable loot(along with some rare Anchor-drop-only set bonuses). When I see them farming low-level Anchors, I report them, period. It is just sad. I came across this "epidemic" while on an alt. Friend and I tried for 30 minutes to get one decent Anchor fight, only to find 2 VR 12s with super-speed horses zerg-rushing them on spawn with impulse. Totally ruined the experience for me, let alone the first-timers whom were still learning and exploring the game.

    So ya, I reported them. My friend reported them. And while on my alt, coming across any VRs doing rotations on low-level anchors, will continue to report them. I don't mind if they just come once to obtain the location and achievement for destroying -that- anchor. Fine, I understand completely. All good. You missed it initially, it's ok! ... But if you're a VR farming General Executioner in low-level... doing rotations, You're getting reported.
    Edited by Lord_Hev on August 3, 2014 5:45PM
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  • crislevin
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    I farmed VR 2 & 4 anchors(Deshaan & Eastmarch) for the Daedric Lord Slayer achievement, Pre-VR nerf. As a VR 4. Got it in like... a week.

    These herds of VR 12s farming low-level anchors?? No excuse. They can solo/duo farm VR 1 - 4 anchors easily, all the while having more fun with a decent experience, and get sellable loot(along with some rare Anchor-drop-only set bonuses). When I see them farming low-level Anchors, I report them, period. It is just sad. I came across this "epidemic" while on an alt. Friend and I tried for 30 minutes to get one decent Anchor fight, only to find 2 VR 12s with super-speed horses zerg-rushing them on spawn with impulse. Totally ruined the experience for me, let alone the first-timers whom were still learning and exploring the game.

    So ya, I reported them. My friend reported them. And while on my alt, coming across any VRs doing rotations on low-level anchors, will continue to report them. I don't mind if they just come once to obtain the location and achievement for destroying -that- anchor. Fine, I understand completely. All good. You missed it initially, it's ok! ... But if you're a VR farming General Executioner in low-level... doing rotations, You're getting reported.

    I'm afraid your post reads more like a show off of your combat prowess.
  • Xehmnus_Rayne
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    I can understand some Vets coming in and doing low level anchors... At least once for the area achievements and whatnot else. Here's my debate though about the generals and whatnot else. Do they not spawn in the vet areas or something? If they do... then why don't all the vets that are decimating low level anchors get together and try those? With the number of vets that are doing the low level anchors, surely the vet anchors would be easy enough and not leave low levels scrambling to try and grab what they can. The vets that aren't just outright destroying everything, have my respect. Unfortunately, they are few and far between. There was one anchor I was at where two vet level characters were AoEing everything and when the boss was coming down, they killed it before it could even land. No corpse, no nothing. If you want to go the EASY route, then fine. But don't be a *** about it. Have some respect, at least, for the low level characters who are actual trying to have fun doing anchors instead of trying to ruin the experience for them.
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