Ignored & Excluded by Elitist Role players.

Grayaxeb14_ESO · August 2014

I'm sorry that happened to you, never cool when things like that happen.
My wife and I have always kind of felt this game is lacking a strong in game community. Don't give up on rping in the game though, my wife and I have never been big into role-playing in video games, but we're huge pen and paper role-playing fans though. This our one and only role playing experience in a video game.

A couple of weeks ago we were doing some questing and I was hanging out by the quest npc waiting for my wife to finish looting everything... I noticed some people in the back of the npcs hut role-playing. Figured I'd go back there and see what was going on, I observed for a few and realized one of the players was acting as if they were sick. Well being that I'm a templar healer, I asked what was going on. They told me this person was sick and so I started doing some healing spells and emotes and when my wife showed up we did a whole healing ritual with emotes. We then said our goodbyes and went to finish the quest. About a week later one of the players sent me a message saying thanks for helping his friend and if we ever needed help all we need to do is ask. It was some of the most fun we have had in the game so far, unfortunately I forgot to add them to my friends list and now can't remember their name

I'm going to derail your thread for a sec (sorry), there seems to be a few players who get rejected from groups because of their build, play style, class etc. I don't like to see this happen so I wanted to put this out there. Message me in the game, name is @Grug, my wife and I are only VR1 but we will try any dungeon, quest etc with anybody we don't care if you're a Nightblade wearing heavy armor and using a sword and shield. We just want to help people and have fun. Just a heads up, if you join us we don't guarantee you won't die a few times

emeraldbay · August 2014

I've never met a group of rp'ers like that. Every group I've come across has let me join in if I act interested, but I understand that not everyone is the same. It's a shame that your first attempt got ignored, but I would suggest trying it again when you come across another group (not the same group, obviously), because it really is fun when you get a friendly group of people together.

TheBull · August 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

"Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but..."

"So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember..."

"So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames..."

" So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this"

this is good stuff

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

half of all rp'rs just want to fantasy cyber anyway. Statistical fact.

Really? Well I don't consider those folks really RPers if that is all they do. However if it is a "statistical fact"...show me the money.

I am broke, and even if I wasn't, I won't be internet scammed into sending you money, that Nigerian Prince was the last time I do that, again.

Look, all I'm saying is, it's science. You can't dispute it because... it's science.

Ok..it is science..show me your results.

Really your post is just there to get people to react to it. You got me, I admit.

Shame on me.

I lost all my 4chan meme pics in the reformat so I will just inform you that you lack a sense of humor.

That, too, is science. Indisputable.

I have a great sense of humor. Perhaps you just aren't funny?

Ha ha haa

Back to the thread: I am sorry when anyone has a bad experience with RP. There are tons of great RPers out there. Searching on some RP forums for ESO may help you find someone more willing to be open.

If I ever had some RP event I would have been willing to include random RP..however if I wasn't a simple whisper to the person was usually sufficient and also good mannered.

Innocente · August 2014

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

there are no custom channels in ESO except things like guild and group.

Honestly, you fail at RP if you are working entirely off a script. Part of RPing is rolling with things and reacting to events, otherwise you are essentially RPing AT people not WITH them.

If a dude walks into the bar you are having a party at, and starts interacting with you, pretending he is not there is ultimately breaking character. Why do you not see or respond to him? Why did you use an OOC mechanic to snub him as opposed to telling him IC to go away?

In short, you and said people do not know how to roleplay. Maybe play house or cowboys and indians with your younger siblings for more practice.

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

I have to say that I respect your opinion but I completely disagree with you. Even in another chat screen they could have seen him and just OOC whispered they were involved. I can give the benefit of the doubt on maybe they didn't see it. I would not refuse someone RP though and could easily handled an addition IC under most any circumstance.

To each his own though.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

I have to say that I respect your opinion but I completely disagree with you. Even in another chat screen they could have seen him and just OOC whispered they were involved. I can give the benefit of the doubt on maybe they didn't see it. I would not refuse someone RP though and could easily handled an addition IC under most any circumstance.

To each his own though.

then why did they /ignore him? Remember, he sent tells to them and they didn't even go through.

Innocente · August 2014

Why should they bother?

And VOIP has nothing to do with chat channels.

If I was in a RP event and some random dude tried to crash it, I would ignore him as well.

Other players that have put time and effort into their events owe you NOTHING.

It's what you all get for wanting a Single-Player game. Enjoy it.

Orchish · August 2014

9 role players ignored me therefore all role players are jerks... right?...

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

I have to say that I respect your opinion but I completely disagree with you. Even in another chat screen they could have seen him and just OOC whispered they were involved. I can give the benefit of the doubt on maybe they didn't see it. I would not refuse someone RP though and could easily handled an addition IC under most any circumstance.

To each his own though.

then why did they /ignore him? Remember, he sent tells to them and they didn't even go through.

I am saying they should not have. They could have told him they were doing something OOCly. I wouldn't have. All I said is I could give the benefit of the doubt that they didnt see him say something to them but I don't think that would be so if there were several of them.

Not sure why you are responding to me when I think they could have at least responded if not let him IC RP with them in some way..even if it was to IC tell him to get out. lol

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

Why should they bother?

And VOIP has nothing to do with chat channels.

If I was in a RP event and some random dude tried to crash it, I would ignore him as well.

Other players that have put time and effort into their events owe you NOTHING.

It's what you all get for wanting a Single-Player game. Enjoy it.

wtf are you even talking about.

It's not about owing anyone anything, it's just called good RP. Your rp sucks, you are bad at rp. Making it an exclusive event to hide the fact that you couldn't rp your way out of a paper bag isn't going to help.

you don't even have the right to be elitist about it.

If you want to rp in a vacuum, go somewhere that isn't public.

KariTR · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

Then that isn't roleplaying, is it?

Innocente · August 2014

Sorry, we all pay the same subs as you do.

In a pre-made RP event, you are not wanted. There is no OOC. No one wants to talk to you at that time. No one even really wants to see you. You are a party crasher.

Make some RP friends IN ADVANCE of an event if you want to be included. Otherwise, get lost.

KariTR · August 2014

Please be on the EU server Innocente. I will even skill up nova especially

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

Sorry, we all pay the same subs as you do.

In a pre-made RP event, you are not wanted. There is no OOC. No one wants to talk to you at that time. No one even really wants to see you. You are a party crasher.

Make some RP friends IN ADVANCE of an event if you want to be included. Otherwise, get lost.

He wasn't acting OOC. The act of ignoring him would be an ooc act that breaks immersion.

I think elitist really is the proper word for this behavior, and not even deserved elitism.

If you are talking in voice chat and not in /say you are not RPing.

I'm going to assume you are one of the people who did this. Your guild is not good at rp, you should split it up and part ways.

as I said before, a big part of rp is reacting, not just going through scripted events. Anyone can do planned rp, good rpers can rp unexpected things happening.

You and yours are not good at it.

Innocente · August 2014

They don't CARE if you are trying to RP.
The point is that you are NOT INVITED to join in.
It is a closed event.

Again, if you want to be part of a RP Event, you need to become a part of the RP group IN ADVANCE of the event.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

They don't CARE if you are trying to RP.
The point is that you are NOT INVITED to join in.
It is a closed event.

Again, if you want to be part of a RP Event, you need to become a part of the RP group IN ADVANCE of the event.

Right and what you are ignoring is that I am saying ignoring someone showing up and not interacting with them at all when they are not trying to be overtly ooc etc is bad rp. Therefore, I don't care if he wasn't invited, my main point is that you and your friends suck at rp. you are incapable of it. You used an ooc mechanic to block out something that was happening IC. You don't know what you are doing.

Innocente · August 2014

Well, you guys obviously just don't get it at all.

I would also like to point out that the folks here that would attempt to disrupt a RP event because they could not just jump in and play are EXACTLY the reason RP events are pre-planned and closed to the general public.

The OP would have had better luck getting involved with a RP group if he had actually RPed his rejection and left quietly. He might not have been in that event, that day, but he might have been invited to the guild and been up for a future event.

But, by acting like a spoiled crybaby, he sealed his own fate. As I expect, have most of you!

I'm out.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Innocente wrote: »

Well, you guys obviously just don't get it at all.

I would also like to point out that the folks here that would attempt to disrupt a RP event because they could not just jump in and play are EXACTLY the reason RP events are pre-planned and closed to the general public.

The OP would have had better luck getting involved with a RP group if he had actually RPed his rejection and left quietly. He might not have been in that event, that day, but he might have been invited to the guild and been up for a future event.

But, by acting like a spoiled crybaby, he sealed his own fate. As I expect, have most of you!

I'm out.

you know, next time I see an rp event going on, I am going to crash it just in case it's you and your friends.

How exactly was he supposed to rp his rejection when they put him on ignore, and why does he owe them that when they can't be bothered to give him the time of day.

You are not special because you rp. Consider yourself lucky other people spend the time to even attempt to participate.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Arsenic_Touch · August 2014

I'm not even a roleplayer and I would have put you on ignore.

Jice · August 2014

"RP Event" to me sounds like "play Date" I'm not 3 years old, I shouldn't have to schedule my fun, and for that matter neither should a three year old.

RP to me is best when organic, the best RPers are the ones who never even reference they are RPing and are in character all the time, even when playing the game normally and interacting with everything that happens around them, regardless if it's someone chewing on a chicken drumstick while naked in the middle of a forge or someone talking Shakespearean in a game that has never made any reference to any of its characters EVER talking like that.

Any time anyone starts an RP with 'hey wanna RP' I turn off, because at that point you're playing a role in some book at story time not actually being the character you are playing. I prefer reacting to things how my Kahjiit would react, dismissing someone by saying 'ziss on you', Giving information on boss fights as if I was spying on them earlier, Sending people mail that isn't just Blank/Blank when I make them some armor.

A friendly Argonian telling me 'swim in the river of courage friend' after I buy something from him is a more exciting and immersive than listening to paragraph long description of how someone became an orphan and got that scar over their eye.

So to OP. You didn't miss anything important, I wouldn't worry about it and just have fun doing what you like.

Eirikur · August 2014

OP, what's your character's name? I don't RP in ESO, but if I did and attended an RP-event, I probably wouldn't want to interact with someone whose name is for example Arsemeister4000. The first thing RPers check is if your name is lore-friendly.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see this was brought up already.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Jice wrote: »

"RP Event" to me sounds like "play Date" I'm not 3 years old, I shouldn't have to schedule my fun, and for that matter neither should a three year old.

RP to me is best when organic, the best RPers are the ones who never even reference they are RPing and are in character all the time, even when playing the game normally and interacting with everything that happens around them, regardless if it's someone chewing on a chicken drumstick while naked in the middle of a forge or someone talking Shakespearean in a game that has never made any reference to any of its characters EVER talking like that.

Any time anyone starts an RP with 'hey wanna RP' I turn off, because at that point you're playing a role in some book at story time not actually being the character you are playing. I prefer reacting to things how my Kahjiit would react, dismissing someone by saying 'ziss on you', Giving information on boss fights as if I was spying on them earlier, Sending people mail that isn't just Blank/Blank when I make them some armor.

A friendly Argonian telling me 'swim in the river of courage friend' after I buy something from him is a more exciting and immersive than listening to paragraph long description of how someone became an orphan and got that scar over their eye.

So to OP. You didn't miss anything important, I wouldn't worry about it and just have fun doing what you like.

I don't think this could have been said any better.

emeraldbay · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Innocente wrote: »

Sorry, we all pay the same subs as you do.

In a pre-made RP event, you are not wanted. There is no OOC. No one wants to talk to you at that time. No one even really wants to see you. You are a party crasher.

Make some RP friends IN ADVANCE of an event if you want to be included. Otherwise, get lost.

He wasn't acting OOC. The act of ignoring him would be an ooc act that breaks immersion.

I think elitist really is the proper word for this behavior, and not even deserved elitism.

If you are talking in voice chat and not in /say you are not RPing.

I'm going to assume you are one of the people who did this. Your guild is not good at rp, you should split it up and part ways.

as I said before, a big part of rp is reacting, not just going through scripted events. Anyone can do planned rp, good rpers can rp unexpected things happening.

You and yours are not good at it.

I think you're mistaking an "organized event" for a "scripted event". I've been in a couple of organized events before - everyone is free to react how they would, the only difference is that we're all getting together in the same area. In some cases, you have a couple of people who have set jobs, like guards or public speakers, which makes sense. All of those people do so willingly, of course- no one is forced into the role.

Never before have I been to an event that is completely scripted. Though I don't doubt that happens, I do doubt that this was one such event. I'm certain they were just ignoring him, and, as rude as that is, that's not scripted.

Also, who said you can't RP over voice chat? Just because everyone else can't see what you're doing, you're not talking IC?

Cody · August 2014

Elitists rule this game. sad truth about it. they rule trials, they rule PvP, they rule the game most of the time. best way to deal with them is just ignore them.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

emeraldbay wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Innocente wrote: »

Sorry, we all pay the same subs as you do.

In a pre-made RP event, you are not wanted. There is no OOC. No one wants to talk to you at that time. No one even really wants to see you. You are a party crasher.

Make some RP friends IN ADVANCE of an event if you want to be included. Otherwise, get lost.

He wasn't acting OOC. The act of ignoring him would be an ooc act that breaks immersion.

I think elitist really is the proper word for this behavior, and not even deserved elitism.

If you are talking in voice chat and not in /say you are not RPing.

I'm going to assume you are one of the people who did this. Your guild is not good at rp, you should split it up and part ways.

as I said before, a big part of rp is reacting, not just going through scripted events. Anyone can do planned rp, good rpers can rp unexpected things happening.

You and yours are not good at it.

I think you're mistaking an "organized event" for a "scripted event". I've been in a couple of organized events before - everyone is free to react how they would, the only difference is that we're all getting together in the same area. In some cases, you have a couple of people who have set jobs, like guards or public speakers, which makes sense. All of those people do so willingly, of course- no one is forced into the role.

Never before have I been to an event that is completely scripted. Though I don't doubt that happens, I do doubt that this was one such event. I'm certain they were just ignoring him, and, as rude as that is, that's not scripted.

Also, who said you can't RP over voice chat? Just because everyone else can't see what you're doing, you're not talking IC?

if you're character isn't saying it in game, technically it isn't happening IC.

When I say scripted, I mean what you are describing. So that's not the perfect word but I don't think organized is either. Organized would give the impression that the rp would be fluid and would naturally be effected by events occurring within the game, which these people weren't doing. It seems to be forced or mechanical, conveniently ignoring any events that do not fit into their pre-planned schedule.

Tyr · August 2014

andreasv wrote: »

Wait until you can kill NPCs and the next time you're ignored take out every NPC in the bar. Let's see what an impact an empty bar with a raging / wanted maniac has on their role playing.

Yep, that's one of the reasons I really like the new system. If you're pissed enough and willing to RP as EVIL, you can do it.

I just wish I could lead a group to slaughter Almalexia instead of supporting her against people who are 100% right in claiming her as a false God.
But alas killing main story NPC's won't be possible, at least not during the campaign they are a part of.

Maotti · August 2014

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I have seen inclusive and exclusive RPers in ESO.

My orc has an orc like name and isn't Iluvyermum, and pepemcgee etc. so half the time I'm cooking Someone will talk to me (or if I'm in Nord lands... drink at me). Orc in the EP isn't the most popular character.

Maybe 2 months ago I was cooking in the Rift (I think I was doing pub dungeon bosses and ran out of food) and minding my own business, and had several people demanding that I leave the inn in whispers because I was interrupting their RP thingie.... not in character or anything (in character anti-orc stuff is fine with me)... player whispers. I was cooking...no emotes, no typing of any kind... just making 20 or so items.

One of the people in the inn was a RL friend of mine and she was totally embarrassed when I told her they were trying to kick me out of a public space.

In my opinion these kind of people are mentally disturbed! They have no right to dictate how other players play the game.

And to the OP, i completely agree with you. Becayse i've experienced almost exactly the same thing!

Really put a sour taste in my mouth when it comes to RP'rs.

Woogawoman · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

in MUDs they call it MUDsexing. When I first heard people mockingly throwing this term around I didn't want to say anything, but was perplexed as to why they all put so much thought into the idea of people having sex in mud...

Oh, that brings back memories. I was a MUSHer more than MUD, and there it was called "TinySex" because the code base was TinyMUSH. Same level of perplexity, though - why would you want tiny sex?

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Ignored & Excluded by Elitist Role players.