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PVP Legate required for black dye?!?
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Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
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The blackest black is from finishing the main quest... research. Vampires too as others have stated. You literally have to squint your eyes to even see a difference between them and the pvp one - and even then the pvp one is lighter.
Should be some effort in the game to get cool things because as it is 70% of the playerbase is going to be black/red 20% hot/candy pink for the luls and 10% will be unique.
/agree
Except the "squint to see a difference" part, my 4k 60hz ips monitor makes it very clearly and obviously different between the shades.... /elitist-TN-hater.Edited by Attorneyatlawl on August 1, 2014 5:37AM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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✭✭✭✭✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Why? So it's super-easy to get one of the colors considered, at least by some good chunk of the playerbase, to be a "great" one? Go earn it!
I am against it simply for the reason that it forces people like myself who hate PVP to suffer it just to have the selection of colors they want for their gear.
This almost feels like ZOS was worried the people that DO like it are getting upset more aren't doing it, so they chose to put the most desired color behind a playstyle wall in a "play how you want" game.
I don't really think strong-arm carrot sticking is the best way to get more people to try out PVP. But whatever. I guess I'll just be using one of the "close enough" colors.
Edited by Phinix1 on August 1, 2014 9:51AM9 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Legate is not super easy to get so I am not surprised it is darker.
I want vampire for white, or the achievement for the aetherium archives. Instead I get brown and grey for werewolf.
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Circuitous✭✭✭✭✭Please don't rely on the thumbnail colors on eso-fashion, they do not represent the actual in-game color as it will appear on the armor you choose to dye.
You might be pleasantly surprised by how black the easy-to-get dyes are. The amount of panic this topic is generating is getting out of hand.Ｔｈａｎｋ Ｓｔｅｎｄａｒｒ ｉｔ’ｓ Ｆｒｅｄａｓ．
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Sotha_Sil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do you know there is a color for emperors ?
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✭✭✭✭✭I am DC player doing AD content for VR1-5. I am starting out and still in Auridon, though. Will doing the AD quests in VR give me the achievements for "Thalmor Black"? Or do I have to be a member of AD to get their achievements?0 -
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I think it will. Those quests seem to be the same ones as the ones in Cadwell's Almanac.Dagoth_Rac wrote: »I am DC player doing AD content for VR1-5. I am starting out and still in Auridon, though. Will doing the AD quests in VR give me the achievements for "Thalmor Black"? Or do I have to be a member of AD to get their achievements?UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭MercyKilling wrote: »
I understand some folks not wanting to do 1 or 2 of those, but if you are out because of all of those, go play something else. You obviously don't want to play the game.11 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭Liquid_Time wrote: »Wait.. there are dyes and you have to work for them?
Ugh the hassle of needing to play the game in order to unlock something.
Having to work for something is ok provided it does not become the point of the game. *looks in disgust at TOR*
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c0rp✭✭✭✭✭
✭I guarantee that a ton of these dyes will all look the same once put on gear, from another persons perspective. People QQ for nothing.Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.5 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭pecheckler wrote: »This selection of dyes is pathetic compared to guild wars 2.
But unlike that game, 90% of these dyes won't be horrible, and they'll be account-wide.----
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GaldorP✭✭✭✭✭What should I say, my favorite color is Grand Overlord's Brass
Joke aside. I like what I've seen of the dye system so far. I also think it makes sense that some colors are hard to get (among them some colors that are very "desirable"). Finally something to work on that not every other VR 12 will have. This MMORPG(!) needs more grinds like this or people will quit once they reach max level!4 -
Kronosphere✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »MercyKilling wrote: »
I understand some folks not wanting to do 1 or 2 of those, but if you are out because of all of those, go play something else. You obviously don't want to play the game.
yeah so what are u suggesting @MercyKilling there should be no rewards for any activity you do not do or are not interested in?Edited by Kronosphere on August 1, 2014 2:05PM~House Indoril~
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frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭Of course they are going to make the popular colors linked to harder achievements. They want you to play the game, work for it and feel the accomplishment.3 -
Ifthir_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Except the "squint to see a difference" part, my 4k 60hz ips monitor makes it very clearly and obviously different between the shades.... /elitist-TN-hater.
lol 60hz
/elitist-poor-frame-rate-hater
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Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Except the "squint to see a difference" part, my 4k 60hz ips monitor makes it very clearly and obviously different between the shades.... /elitist-TN-hater.
lol 60hz
/elitist-poor-frame-rate-hater
Hehe, I was running a 110hz PLS panel (X-Star DP2710 @ 2560x1440) for over a year, but the 4k 60hz is a better overall experience to my eyes. A little less smooth in my opinion, but the distance detail and overall resolution is worth it (to me, at least).
/point-taken
Edited by Attorneyatlawl on August 1, 2014 2:22PM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
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This is what I fear. That players will want to stand out, in a bad way. Hot pink/Lime green anyone?
I think to stand out, I will wear stock colors.....
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Jaxom✭✭✭✭I'll be dying my armor as close to the color of keep walls as possible. Havent figured out the exact color yet.
Camo> Black.6 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭making the black be a pvp rank is fine, but legate? no one is even close to legate right now. at least make black a LITTLE more obtainable. move it to centurion or major or something along those lines.3
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✭making the black be a pvp rank is fine, but legate? no one is even close to legate right now. at least make black a LITTLE more obtainable. move it to centurion or major or something along those lines.
I had assumed there were already grand overlords considering how religiously some people play.
Only veteran personally. Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.1 -
c0rp✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'll be dying my armor as close to the color of keep walls as possible. Havent figured out the exact color yet.
Camo> Black.
Haha..i like this. Im thinking Lycanthropy gray might be a good one to try.
Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.1 -
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No, even if you earn 177k APs per day (something that takes most players at least a week to earn), it will still take a year to get to grand overloard (which is the highest rank, i believe).smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »making the black be a pvp rank is fine, but legate? no one is even close to legate right now. at least make black a LITTLE more obtainable. move it to centurion or major or something along those lines.
I had assumed there were already grand overlords considering how religiously some people play.
Only veteran personally.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/96794/64-680-700-alliance-points-required-to-get-to-pvp-rank-50/p1Edited by Aeratus on August 1, 2014 4:02PM0 -
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No, even if you earn 177k APs per day (something that takes most players at least a week to earn), it will still take a year to get to grand overloard (which is the highest rank, i believe).smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »making the black be a pvp rank is fine, but legate? no one is even close to legate right now. at least make black a LITTLE more obtainable. move it to centurion or major or something along those lines.
I had assumed there were already grand overlords considering how religiously some people play.
Only veteran personally.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/96794/64-680-700-alliance-points-required-to-get-to-pvp-rank-50/p1
frustrating since I need the delicious skillpoints buried in those levels. It certainly has taken some time wading through veteran rank I. I still have almost all the vet 4 mans to do tho. I just hate grouping with strangers.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.1 -
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✭✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Why? So it's super-easy to get one of the colors considered, at least by some good chunk of the playerbase, to be a "great" one? Go earn it!
I am against it simply for the reason that it forces people like myself who hate PVP to suffer it just to have the selection of colors they want for their gear.
This almost feels like ZOS was worried the people that DO like it are getting upset more aren't doing it, so they chose to put the most desired color behind a playstyle wall in a "play how you want" game.
I don't really think strong-arm carrot sticking is the best way to get more people to try out PVP. But whatever. I guess I'll just be using one of the "close enough" colors.
So how opposed are you to having other dyes unlocked by PvE content?
Making players that hate PvE or who, like myself, are unable to participate in certain system requirements suffer limits on colour selection as well."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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Kewljag_66_ESO✭✭✭✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »This is perhaps the most sickening revelation I have had since I started playing ESO.
Making the most desired color require you to grind a playstyle you hate?
Really?
This is a mixed PVP and PVE game. They do not seperate PVP and PVE in this game. If you want everything and the best character possible you will have to do both. It the same on the other side, Some PVPers gate PVE but they have to do it aswell.
When you bought this game you knew it was built around Cyrodiil with a PVP endgame. no one has an advantage over you and i don't see why you wouldn't want to help your alliance.2 -
pitdemon_ESO✭✭✭Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »AlienDiplomat wrote: »This is perhaps the most sickening revelation I have had since I started playing ESO.
Making the most desired color require you to grind a playstyle you hate?
Really?
This is a mixed PVP and PVE game. They do not seperate PVP and PVE in this game. If you want everything and the best character possible you will have to do both. It the same on the other side, Some PVPers gate PVE but they have to do it aswell.
When you bought this game you knew it was built around Cyrodiil with a PVP endgame. no one has an advantage over you and i don't see why you wouldn't want to help your alliance.
Carebears gonna cry
It's not even a PvE/PvP thing. It would be like me saying I want all of the crafting achievements but don't feel like crafting, or I want all the fishing achievements but fishing is broken right now.
There are a ton of achievements out there, and it's extremely doubtful that most people will ever see half of them.The Grixxitt of Melek - Alfar Nightblade
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✭✭traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »the best black should come from fishing...
I'm going to take a wild guess here:-
You do a lot of fishing, and have most of the fishing achievements.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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traigusb14_ESO2✭✭✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »the best black should come from fishing...
I'm going to take a wild guess here:-
You do a lot of fishing, and have most of the fishing achievements.
No, I have about 5, but I am working on them for OCD reasons.
I'm not going to wear black... Everyone is going to be in black/red or pink (or whatever they think will annoy the most people) for the most part.
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✭✭traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »the best black should come from fishing...
I'm going to take a wild guess here:-
You do a lot of fishing, and have most of the fishing achievements.
No, I have about 5, but I am working on them for OCD reasons.
I'm not going to wear black... Everyone is going to be in black/red or pink (or whatever they think will annoy the most people) for the most part.
Ok.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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