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PVP Legate required for black dye?!?

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This is perhaps the most sickening revelation I have had since I started playing ESO.

Making the most desired color require you to grind a playstyle you hate?

Really?
  • Preyfar
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    There's a lot of various dark grays and blacks that work pretty decently. I don't think the shades are that dramatically different from one another.
  • Samadhi
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    This is perhaps the most sickening revelation I have had since I started playing ESO.

    Making the most desired color require you to grind a playstyle you hate?

    Really?

    There's also a black dye available for becoming a vampire, so the most desired colour is also available via hated disease as well.
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  • IronChefYoshi
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    I'm not sure where you read that, but I found this Creating Eso post:
    elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/22/creating-eso-identity-and-update-3

    That says "We knew black would be a popular color, and we chose not to make it hard to get. The artists designated one of our nine black dyes as the “best” and distributed the color, which was called Noxophilic Black, to the achievement for becoming a vampire. Another of the shades was given to a tough Trials achievement. "

    So it sounds like there will be at least 9 different ways to get a shade of black dye. :)
  • Samadhi
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    I forgot about the trials one. I'm never going to end up getting that. :(

    C'est la vie.
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  • MercyKilling
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I forgot about the trials one. I'm never going to end up getting that. :(

    C'est la vie.

    You think you've got it bad, I'm out any color associated with PvP, trials, Craglorn, veteran level content, vampires or werewolves.
    I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
    1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
    2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
    3) Difficulty slider.
    4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
    Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.
  • Samadhi
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I forgot about the trials one. I'm never going to end up getting that. :(

    C'est la vie.

    You think you've got it bad, I'm out any color associated with PvP, trials, Craglorn, veteran level content, vampires or werewolves.

    Hope you're playing on Dominion, then.
    Their quest zones appear to give two different shades.
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  • MercyKilling
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    Samadhi wrote: »

    Hope you're playing on Dominion, then.
    Their quest zones appear to give two different shades.

    I have one character for each faction.
    I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
    1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
    2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
    3) Difficulty slider.
    4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
    Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.
  • PBpsy
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I forgot about the trials one. I'm never going to end up getting that. :(

    C'est la vie.

    You think you've got it bad, I'm out any color associated with PvP, trials, Craglorn, veteran level content, vampires or werewolves.
    Is It so really so unbearable for you to go level a alt to level 15 get someone to bite you and get the dye? Really?
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  • Cody
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    I will become a vampire to get the dye.... if getting myself cured is not a hassle.
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    NookyZooky wrote: »
    I will become a vampire to get the dye.... if getting myself cured is not a hassle.

    Visit NPC, pay some gold.
    Definite step down from previous games.
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  • Audigy
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    You can have an alt as a vampire, keep in mind its acc wide. Your main doesn't need to be a Vampire or a pvp hero to unlock the dyes ;)
  • ExiledKhallisi
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    Why would you want to be the same color as 80% of the rest of the players in the game anyway? Black is a conformist color
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  • kassandratheclericb14_ESO
    Why would you want to be the same color as 80% of the rest of the players in the game anyway? Black is a conformist color

    *looks for sarcasm mark*
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Well , good thing my templar already is a vampire then heh :P.

    Still , i will probably get more PvP ranks in the zerg , dont mind it much there.
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  • Liquid_Time
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    Wait.. there are dyes and you have to work for them?
    Ugh the hassle of needing to play the game in order to unlock something.
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  • timidobserver
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    IMO the dyes are pretty well spread out. They definitely did a good job in this area. As long as you have been playing the game regularly, you should get a pretty nice set of dyes. Those that did not grind from V1 to V12 will be rewarded even more since they will likely have more achievements.
    Edited by timidobserver on August 1, 2014 4:02AM
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  • Laura
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    The blackest black is from finishing the main quest... research. Vampires too as others have stated. You literally have to squint your eyes to even see a difference between them and the pvp one - and even then the pvp one is lighter.

    Should be some effort in the game to get cool things because as it is 70% of the playerbase is going to be black/red 20% hot/candy pink for the luls and 10% will be unique.
    Edited by Laura on August 1, 2014 4:09AM
  • Natjur
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    Coldharbour Ash Black looks like the 'best black' and that's easy to get
    ESO Dye's sorted by Colour
    Warrior’s Steel and Legate’s Black are the hard to get blacks.

    So what do you think is the best looking GOLD (yellow)
    Edited by Natjur on August 1, 2014 4:13AM
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    Laura wrote: »
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    The blackest black is from finishing the main quest... ...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46kXH6GGtT0
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  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Btw , there is no limit or price on this right , we just can dye all we want after we get a color on any of those stations?
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  • Liquid_Time
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    Btw , there is no limit or price on this right , we just can dye all we want after we get a color on any of those stations?

    Yes I believe so :)
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    Should be switched IMHO.
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    Why would you want to be the same color as 80% of the rest of the players in the game anyway? Black is a conformist color
    This is what I fear. That players will want to stand out, in a bad way. Hot pink/Lime green anyone?
  • pecheckler
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    This selection of dyes is pathetic compared to guild wars 2.
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    pecheckler wrote: »
    This selection of dyes is pathetic compared to guild wars 2.

    The fact that we could buy and sell on GW2 also made it easier for everyone to gather the ones they liked.

    Oh and it was nice for guilds.

    Everyday my guild would check what dyes we had gathered in the bank and give around for those that wanted them in chat , the rare and awesome ones we would give on guild events and such.
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  • Fi'yra
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    No it shouldn't be switched, and at least it gives us PvPers a chance for a nice solid colour tbh.

    And it's going to be a rare colour..
    considering no one has even got Legate yet. :/

    I agree that it was a bad choice picking Legate, maybe a lower PvP rank would of suited it better, like Sergeant or First Sergeant?
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  • sagitter
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    This is perhaps the most sickening revelation I have had since I started playing ESO.

    Making the most desired color require you to grind a playstyle you hate?

    Really?

    I like it , it's a good idea, pvp need more rewards, and this is a way to give it without hurting balance.
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    QQ more.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Why would you want to be the same color as 80% of the rest of the players in the game anyway? Black is a conformist color

    I won't be using it, personally... I love the Aurora Green Aetherian Archive under 33 minutes teal color, and the Voidstone Violet from earning all Death achievements from vet dungeons though! Gonna have to do the last couple of Death ones I didn't bother with yet, now.... :).
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    Should be switched IMHO.

    Why? So it's super-easy to get one of the colors considered, at least by some good chunk of the playerbase, to be a "great" one? Go earn it!
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on August 1, 2014 5:45AM
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