Need / Want More Skill Bars !

Phantax · July 2014

I really think Zenimax should consider giving us more skill bars. Now I'm not talking like WoW where your screen was pretty much full of additional bars (although I'm sure some people would appreciate that). No... I'm mean additional 'weapon swap' bars.

From my point of view -
I have 4 builds/set-ups and It would be nice (and certainly easier) if I could have a bar for each.
I have Solo PvE build, Group DPS build, Group Heal build and a PvP build. And to be honest its a pain in the nuts having constantly redesign my skill-basr each time I want to do something different !

As soon as a player reaches the required level for weapon swapping it would be just as easy to add even more bars. You could simply toggle/scroll through the different bars adding your skills as you need depending on that particular build.
(Secondary weapons 'could' be placed in a slot adjacent to each skill-bar depending what skills matched each weapon)

So come on Zeni... more skill bars plz !

PS.. There is also Spellcrafting to consider. I think a lot of people will want extra bars once we have possibly hundreds of different builds at our disposal !

EinionYrth · July 2014

No. Just no. This is an ex-parrot it has rung down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible.

Laura · July 2014

I personally like it the way that it is.

Best thing they could do imo is have templates for gear and loadouts. Maybe three sets of gear that didn't clog your inventory. There are addons that sort of do this but they are buggy.

More quality of life stuff to help make the system work would be nice

andre.roques.3b14_ESO · July 2014

I think you can use out of combat add-on to accomplish this, no? You would just be limited to only two swappable ones in combat.

Kos · July 2014

I agree, but there should be less skills on each bar. At the moment it's a bit "messy", I sometimes press 4 instead of 5 etc. It's quite demanding at the moment.

GFBStarWars · July 2014

No, WoW is made by blizzard not ZOS.

Sotha_Sil · July 2014

I disagree. There shouldn't be more skill bars.

However, I highly recommend you the Wykkyd's Outfitter addon for quick skill bar changes -it allows you to create and save your skill bars-.

Vuron · July 2014

I don't think you're really talking about active skill bars, are you? It sounds like you're talking about gear loadouts, which I would agree with adding. As noted above, Wykkd's Outfitter adds this functionality.

If you're talking about have up to 4 sets that you could access like a weapon swap during combat than I don't agree.

Phantax · July 2014

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

I disagree. There shouldn't be more skill bars.

However, I highly recommend you the Wykkyd's Outfitter addon for quick skill bar changes -it allows you to create and save your skill bars-.

Guess I'm sticking with 2 bars then. I have no intention of f*cking about with my game by adding 3rd party rubbish into it that's been programmed by feck knows who ! Never used addons, not gonna start now !

Phantax · July 2014

Vuron wrote: »

I don't think you're really talking about active skill bars, are you? It sounds like you're talking about gear loadouts, which I would agree with adding. As noted above, Wykkd's Outfitter adds this functionality.

If you're talking about have up to 4 sets that you could access like a weapon swap during combat than I don't agree.

The option to have multiple gear loadouts I'd love to see in game. Especially as I have so many builds, depending on what I'm doing.

Personally I do think gear loadouts and weapon swaps / active skill-bars should be connected, but that's just my opinion. Carrying 3 sets of gear around all the time kinda screws with the already limited bag space !

Phantax · July 2014

Vuron wrote: »

If you're talking about have up to 4 sets that you could access like a weapon swap during combat than I don't agree.

Not during combat no. Although I'm an advocate of gear-loadout swapping I don't think that should be allowed in combat (only out of combat)
So maybe have a skill-bar attached to each gear loadout?

Azzuria · July 2014

No.

A full on Grumpy Cat NO.

The only thing I could reasonably see would be Wildstar-esque hotbar load-outs that allow you to switch out an entire bar while out of combat. You know, a set up bar for Bosses, one for groups, one for Daedra... instead of opening the skills page and swapping out one or two skills here and there.

Other than that, a resounding NO.

SBR_QuorTek · July 2014

Would not mind an enhanced skill bar maybe being able to host 8 skills or something, but one can dream, still switching bars as it is now is kind working as intended, if they could just remove the 'lag' from it like in clicking a couple of skills and no matter what you do when you click for the second bar, instant switch.

Phantax · July 2014

Azzuria wrote: »

The only thing I could reasonably see would be Wildstar-esque hotbar load-outs that allow you to switch out an entire bar while out of combat. You know, a set up bar for Bosses, one for groups, one for Daedra... instead of opening the skills page and swapping out one or two skills here and there.

That's what I was suggesting ! Although in my case it's one for PvE, one for healing, one for PvP. (maybe I should re-word it....lol)

Cyberdown · July 2014

Ok heres the issue with this game.

I don't need a combat macro to play.

I love this issue so very much....

Yeah its slower to not have all my skills on my toolbar to get xp all the time...

Yeah combat might be a bit more...dynamic...if I had the tools for every situation I could possibly be in at my fingertips...

In the end..the current system allows for more focus on gameplay, less on cooldown management....and I don't need to set up a damn macro so that I don't develop arthritis lol...

Threads like this, and the people begging for global ah...and similar threads...makes me sad...why is it the mmorpg community always want to take what is somewhat unique and conform conform conform with it all? Can we not tamper with systems that are not commonplace in other mmorpgs for once?

tinythinker · July 2014

EinionYrthb16_ESO wrote: »

No. Just no.

Laura wrote: »

I personally like it the way that it is.

(*)

Vuron · July 2014

Phantax wrote: »

Azzuria wrote: »

The only thing I could reasonably see would be Wildstar-esque hotbar load-outs that allow you to switch out an entire bar while out of combat. You know, a set up bar for Bosses, one for groups, one for Daedra... instead of opening the skills page and swapping out one or two skills here and there.

That's what I was suggesting ! Although in my case it's one for PvE, one for healing, one for PvP. (maybe I should re-word it....lol)

Yep... You've confused many people with the thread title asking for more skill bars instead of asking for loadouts. I think that you'd get many more people agreeing if you were clear that you were asking for out-of-combat gear loadouts.

Being able to swamp entire gear sets and skills out of combat would be a huge help to those of us that perform many different roles. I have gear sets for solo PvE, group PvE, trials, solo PvP, and group PvP. It gets difficult to keep track of everything and I've even accidentally deconstructed armor that I've had stored in my bank.

TaffyIX · July 2014

This idea of more bars would result in even more balancing issues.

I think our current amount of skills and bars is fine.

andre.roques.3b14_ESO · July 2014

Phantax wrote: »

Guess I'm sticking with 2 bars then. I have no intention of f*cking about with my game by adding 3rd party rubbish into it that's been programmed by feck knows who ! Never used addons, not gonna start now !

However, the ability you are asking for is already available with simply loading one of the 3rd party addons. You would likely change your toon if you tried a handful of the widely used/download. The community highly supports these 3rd party addons and the addon developer are very responsive to feeback and requests.

But again, exactly what you are asking for has been available since beta through 3rd party addons using the primary developer's API.

Cyberdown · July 2014

andre.roques.3b14_ESO wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Guess I'm sticking with 2 bars then. I have no intention of f*cking about with my game by adding 3rd party rubbish into it that's been programmed by feck knows who ! Never used addons, not gonna start now !

However, the ability you are asking for is already available with simply loading one of the 3rd party addons. You would likely change your toon if you tried a handful of the widely used/download. The community highly supports these 3rd party addons and the addon developer are very responsive to feeback and requests.

But again, exactly what you are asking for has been available since beta through 3rd party addons using the primary developer's API.

Kids can be so temperamental.

Ser Lobo · July 2014

I'm not opposed to adding more skill bars. If it would allow me to have more weapons equipped and ready (as I am nearing the upper VR ranks, and find myself picking up new weapons and roles to have something new to do), I could be for it.

But I rely on Alpha Tools to do more than any mechanic ZOS could implement with more bars. Sixteen possible skill bars on save, which I setup for various small tasks (sometimes only switching out a single skill, like putting in silver bolts against daedra, etc).

Innocente · July 2014

Actually, I would also like the ability to have more than two weapon/skill swap choices.

* I would like a minimum of four sets of weapon/skill set loadouts available

* I would like the option to 'keep your current weapon' or 'use this weapon' with a weapon/skill set.

* I would like to have the option to 'keep your current armor' or 'use these armor pieces' with a weapon/skill set.

I feel that the whole weapon/skill swap system is just another severely underdeveloped feature in ESO. One that could have been outstanding, but ends up being just so-so.

Gothic · July 2014

EinionYrthb16_ESO wrote: »

No. Just no. This is an ex-parrot it has rung down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible.

Oh well done! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Parrot

Lynx7386 · July 2014

I would at least like built in templates that you can hit swap to with f1-f4. F1 and f2 could be for your first weapon slot, and f3/f4 for the second.

Kalman · November 2014

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

But I rely on Alpha Tools to do more than any mechanic ZOS could implement with more bars.

Well you just got boned. If Alpha Tools needs to be updated for 1.52 since he removed code from ESOUI.

MornaBaine · November 2014

I would also like an out of combat ability to switch up my build. I'm not looking to be able to switch a ton of stuff but I need one build for healing, one for PvP, one for solo questing and one for group questing. So yeah, 4.

Voodoo · November 2014

The justice system is coming, ,,,you can be behind more bars then!

Ragefist · November 2014

No. Go play WoW and skillbar yourself out

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · November 2014

No....you got two of them, learn to play with what you got..

EsORising · February 2015

I would defintely like a choice between more skill slots (even 1 or 2) vs weapon swaping. I want a pure archer class but it seems silly because you only have 5 skills and its silly to do considering you need drains/heals or other skills on that 2nd bar. I don't like switching back and fourth because it doesn't always work right plus it's pointless to get a staff if you want to be a archer and it's pointless to get mele if you wanted to be range but you have to do it just to balance out and be effective. I would like to see more skill slots with the sacrafice of switching weapons.

This would add a unique element and pride for pure class play vs hybrid. would be interesting.

TheShadowScout · February 2015

Personally I think the 2× 5+1 skill bar setup is one of the best features in ESO.

Makes you have to think and plan in your selection, and no matter how good you plan, you'll never ever have everything you might want available, meaning combat will be less a skill fireworks, and more concentrating on movement, location, block/dodge/bash and all that, which appeals to me (even there are some issues with it as well)
I never liked the games that add more and more skills to your bar(s) until you had two dozend abilities at your fingertips and combat became more of an "click those buttons/keys in the right order" then anything else...

I'd vote against any more skillbarrings...