^ all of this is less than a second. Seriously though, I've been PvPing for a long while and this is the first time I've experienced this.

And to answer your question, the reason why I'm sitting on my horse is just for the sake of recording. I was on foot a couple of times as well, using Reflective Scales is pointless since that skill has also been broken for a while now.

As it says in your recap, you're marked which means that his arrows ignore 75% of your armour and spell resistance. (You do the same to them but it's meaningless if you're sat on your horse or are at range.)

Still, it does seem a lot of damage. He might have an enchantment which does more damage from his bow... I have one but can't remember it off the top of my head. Will post later if you're interested.

That looks like exactly the sort of sniper build that I roll with in Cyrodiil. There are several things to consider. First of all, moving targets are a lot harder to get all the hits off on, especially since Snipe's range was nerfed. 35 and stay alive. The "Marked Target" means that you're basically naked. On the upshot, so is he. You can enchant a bow with irresistable damage for 30-35 extra base weapon damage, and take a potion to further increase and overcharge your base weapon damage, which makes everything hit harder. If you wear all medium armor, it increases your crit chance considerably. Firing from concealment will increase damage. Snipe is the last skill in the bow skill line, and there are a pile of passives that increase damage at range.

So, the speed at which the target takes the damage is a result of the travel time for the snipe. Here's how it works. You Mark the target, which alerts them to your presence but doesn't drop concealment. Then you fire off the snipe, which throws the arrow very high up in the air. While it's sailing on its time delayed arc, you pull back a light attack and animation cancel with poison arrow. So, the light attack and poison hit at the same time. Then the snipe arrow hits for a big amount of damage. Poison arrow is morphed to do extra damage to low health targets, scaling up to 300%, so you just mash it until the armorless target dies.

Everything from the custom weapon, to a fully trained skill line, all weapon passives, armor passives, class choice, potions, preparation (stealthing to a choke point is slow and risky), mundus stone, skills, morphs and armor enchants, and last but not least player skill and timing finally culminates in a beautiful kill like the one in the video.

SO. What's your counterplay? First, stack impenetrability on all of your armor pieces. More and more people are doing this nowadays. Marked target reduces armor and spell resistance, but doesn't touch the impenetrability trait. What you want is to negate their crit. This sort of sniper build relies on crit. Get off of your horse and block, and don't stop blocking until the barrage is over. After that first barrage, if you can see them, charge in or use a knockback to disorient them, while you get in close. If you're worried about snipers while riding cross country or defending a keep wall, fit a ring or a couple of rings of poison resistance. Keep moving, especially when you get Marked. If you're alone, turn around, ride back to where you came from, and get 3-4 other riders. Snipers are opportunistic, we prey on the last rider in a column, gambling that nobody will turn around to help them. There are two things that really freak us out. One is a big group of riders, spread out, riding around with magelights on, flushing us out of the rocks.

The second thing are the true assassins, those super dedicated stealthies that can walk up and floss our teeth before we even know they're there. Seriously, nobody is safe from those guys.

Garm wrote: »

That looks like exactly the sort of sniper build that I roll with in Cyrodiil. There are several things to consider. First of all, moving targets are a lot harder to get all the hits off on, especially since Snipe's range was nerfed. 35 and stay alive. The "Marked Target" means that you're basically naked. On the upshot, so is he. You can enchant a bow with irresistable damage for 30-35 extra base weapon damage, and take a potion to further increase and overcharge your base weapon damage, which makes everything hit harder. If you wear all medium armor, it increases your crit chance considerably. Firing from concealment will increase damage. Snipe is the last skill in the bow skill line, and there are a pile of passives that increase damage at range.

So, the speed at which the target takes the damage is a result of the travel time for the snipe. Here's how it works. You Mark the target, which alerts them to your presence but doesn't drop concealment. Then you fire off the snipe, which throws the arrow very high up in the air. While it's sailing on its time delayed arc, you pull back a light attack and animation cancel with poison arrow. So, the light attack and poison hit at the same time. Then the snipe arrow hits for a big amount of damage. Poison arrow is morphed to do extra damage to low health targets, scaling up to 300%, so you just mash it until the armorless target dies.

Everything from the custom weapon, to a fully trained skill line, all weapon passives, armor passives, class choice, potions, preparation (stealthing to a choke point is slow and risky), mundus stone, skills, morphs and armor enchants, and last but not least player skill and timing finally culminates in a beautiful kill like the one in the video.

SO. What's your counterplay? First, stack impenetrability on all of your armor pieces. More and more people are doing this nowadays. Marked target reduces armor and spell resistance, but doesn't touch the impenetrability trait. What you want is to negate their crit. This sort of sniper build relies on crit. Get off of your horse and block, and don't stop blocking until the barrage is over. After that first barrage, if you can see them, charge in or use a knockback to disorient them, while you get in close. If you're worried about snipers while riding cross country or defending a keep wall, fit a ring or a couple of rings of poison resistance. Keep moving, especially when you get Marked. If you're alone, turn around, ride back to where you came from, and get 3-4 other riders. Snipers are opportunistic, we prey on the last rider in a column, gambling that nobody will turn around to help them. There are two things that really freak us out. One is a big group of riders, spread out, riding around with magelights on, flushing us out of the rocks.

The second thing are the true assassins, those super dedicated stealthies that can walk up and floss our teeth before we even know they're there. Seriously, nobody is safe from those guys.

This guy knows what he's talking about.

As a stealther NB I roam Cyrodiil without sprinting and with my finger on the stealth key. Abilities automatically dismount you and if you have any horse stamina left you won't have that stupid horse animation.

I couldn't even begin to count the amount of times I've been jumped and been able to disappear in front of their face(s).

Also OP, get some more HP. You should have about 3k or more if you plan on doing anything solo in Cyrodiil. Those extra 300-400 HP are the difference between me jumping you and having you dead before you can stand up and sitting there trying to copulate with a turtle while I hope none of your buddies come around.

Also Mark Target adds about 23% damage last I checked vs someone with softcapped armor, while giving up the same damage bonus to you, just FYI

Poxheart wrote: »

ThyIronFist wrote: »

Just look at this video and tell me what you think. I think it's complete [snip].

I think that you are new to Cyrodiil and haven't quite figured out how things work.

I'm a Major rank 21, yes, I am new to Cyrodiil and I'm a complete scrub.

ThyIronFist wrote: »

I'm a Major rank 21, yes, I am new to Cyrodiil and I'm a complete scrub.

Wow, you got to rank 21 without knowing about getting marked and jumped from stealth is a bad thing? Generally if I get marked its jump off the horse, pop a detection pot and unstoppable and charge in swinging. I am only like rank 10 though, so I may be doing it wrong.

Gecko wrote: »

ThyIronFist wrote: »

I'm a Major rank 21, yes, I am new to Cyrodiil and I'm a complete scrub.

Wow, you got to rank 21 without knowing about getting marked and jumped from stealth is a bad thing?

I don't know if you have read any of my posts here in this thread, I knew I was marked and I knew I was getting to be jumped on. I was just baiting the guy.

also armor set bonuses that add damage or crit or whatever for attacking from hide and mundus stones that add that too..

heck iv took out many players from stealth WITHOUT mark target and snipe. you just got jumped, and the player jumping you just happened to be using some pretty good abilities. no cheating happened.

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Focused Aim (a snipe morph) has a LONG travel time. So during this travel time, the player timed a light attack along with another skill with an animation canceled light attack.

All the while, you just sat on your horse while marked. You were outplayed.

^^ This. Shoot from snipe takes very long time to travel. Some times you can hit target with light attack and venom shot before arrow from snipe arrives.

While sieging I seen many times how target simply walks away from my shot, in dmg log shows that it was dodged.

It just seems that you were killed in 1 sec, but in reality 1sec to marking target, 2sec to snipe and at least 1-2sec to shoot light attack + venom. To player that knows how to gank 5 secs is enough to kill enemy, especially with marking target skill.

P.S. Player who killed OP maybe could post his build? I'm interested what armor and weapon sets are being used.

I've gotten hit with that around that amount of ridiculous focus aim damage many times too, and follow-up bow attacks for 600 -800 wearing max crit resist, all of it happening on my screen in about a second.

Poxheart wrote: »

ThyIronFist wrote: »

Just look at this video and tell me what you think. I think it's complete [snip].

I think that you are new to Cyrodiil and haven't quite figured out how things work. Generally, when an opponent marks you, that means they intend to attack and kill you. Next time you find yourself in this situation, rather than sit on your horse panning your camera around like a clueless noob, I recommend you dismount, block, and attempt to hide. Even if you can't successfully hide, blocking will mitigate a lot of the damage & may even cause the enemy that marked you to refrain from attacking you.

You're welcome.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

LMFAOOOOOOOOO @ the bold print in your paragraph. I mean ya... did you think the red beam on you was a sign of friendship in a PVP zone?

Anytime you decide to ride around Cyrodiil... find an ability that's instant cast on self to keep on your active bar. This way you can immediately dismount your horse the moment you see something going on and at the very least try to block, dodge, etc.. that will go a long way once you learn to implement that.

But as others said, yeah nothing is wrong with how he attacked in this video --- working AS intended.

You missed all the parts where people stated reapers mark ignores 75% of armor. I can get my Lethal arrow to hit for 1.1k with a sneak attack crit, and I'm not a night blade so no reapers mark. Flawless dawnbreaker can make this stronger, weapon damage potions can make this stronger, if I were a nightblade reapers mark would definitely make this stronger.

But op had actually tried to fight his opponent, the video would have been much different. It would have been more exploit worthy if the nightblade did 1.8k through a block, but that was a full on buffed focus aim to the back of the dudes head, with unavoided follow-ups. People actually trying to survive don't die that fast.

Should think about what he is doing, or not doing in this instance, to not die before posting stupid videos crying exploit.