Griefers in ESO

david271749 · July 2014

Please list some negative experiences you've had with griefers or trolls in this game. I mean real players only. Bots from the first two months are a given.

Liquid_Time · July 2014

This crazy woman graffitied my horse while I was at the local tavern.
Nuf said.

david271749 · July 2014

Liquid_Time wrote: »

This crazy woman graffitied my horse while I was at the local tavern.
Nuf said.

When armor dying goes wrong.

Nova Sky · July 2014

I've had some folks follow me around when I've been scouting for treasure chests, runestones and other assorted mats.

If it gets too annoying — as in, they grab the item of interest before I can get to it because I'm fighting off the nearby enemy NPC — then I might return the favor by finding a 3-person mob and leading them back to the offending player.

Fortunately, it's a rare occurrence.

Syntse · July 2014

Nova Sky wrote: »

then I might return the favor by finding a 3-person mob and leading them back to the offending player.

I just wonder how this is supposed to work? I know someone who was grinding in some dungeon faced similar behavior, as some other people tried to lure mobs at him.

The mobs are aggro to you so unless the person is stupid enough to attack the mobs they will be no harm to him. This might work on bots as they have some auto attack mob coded in them so once you lure bunch of mobs to them they will attack those.

david271749 · July 2014

Syntse wrote: »

Nova Sky wrote: »

then I might return the favor by finding a 3-person mob and leading them back to the offending player.

I just wonder how this is supposed to work? I know someone who was grinding in some dungeon faced similar behavior, as some other people tried to lure mobs at him.

The mobs are aggro to you so unless the person is stupid enough to attack the mobs they will be no harm to him. This might work on bots as they have some auto attack mob coded in them so once you lure bunch of mobs to them they will attack those.

Mobs with aoe attacks

Nova Sky · July 2014

*shrug* Some people don't realize the mobs won't attack them if they just stand there. It's almost an instinct for some folks to defend themselves when they see a red dot approaching them.

Srugzal · July 2014

How about 4 people dropping their ultimates in a crowded bank while a 5th person spams Impulse. Does that qualify? Happened in Riften this morning. VR pranksters.

WyndStryke · July 2014

david271749 wrote: »

Please list some negative experiences you've had with griefers or trolls in this game. I mean real players only. Bots from the first two months are a given.

Seen some trolling in chat (in the first free month after release, and again now after the steam release), but otherwise nothing.

Srugzal · July 2014

...and then there are the opportunists who stand next to you, eyeing the 3 mob group consisting of 2 conjurers and a DK. You're thinking, good this should be easy with the two of us, same level, etc. You charge in all tanky, aggro all three of them, and this other player... takes advantage and just runs past, leaving you to deal with the casters and the conjured meanies & that green DK ultimate all by yourself.

Sure, it works out okay, but, seriously? If this were actually rare, that would be one thing. But some people are just antisocial, I guess.

Mondo · July 2014

People searching DDs with Achievements/Gear/Built for some Craglorn stuff.... thats so WoW

Akiainavas · July 2014

I only experienced a bit of zone chat spamming and trolling... nothing major though. I don't engage in PvP though, and I think that's where most of it happens.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · July 2014

david271749 wrote: »

Please list some negative experiences you've had with griefers or trolls in this game. I mean real players only. Bots from the first two months are a given.

Bots still exist, they're still causing problems and 'legit' players are using them to farm and grind in Coldharbour.

Jordon987 · July 2014

Most common troll is you are in a dungeon trying to be sneaky and some random guy/girl just run past pulling everything.

Samadhi · July 2014

david271749 wrote: »

Please list some negative experiences you've had...

In the forum community I'm sometimes labeled as though I'm somehow reprehensible or a sociopath because I'm a player that enjoys PvP and is interested in the new NPC killing feature.
Being discriminated against by other players because I enjoy particular game systems causes me grief.

Srugzal · July 2014

Akiainavas wrote: »

I only experienced a bit of zone chat spamming and trolling... nothing major though. I don't engage in PvP though, and I think that's where most of it happens.

I was once severely taken to task in these forums (more than a year ago now, thankfully) for suggesting that ganking is griefing... as it turns out, ganking is more like the national pastime in Tamriel, a sacred obligation, all thoughts of sportsmanship and rules of engagement thrown to the winds because, LOL dude, don't be a n00b, this is a MMO, ROFL.

Yeah, whatever, I don't do PvP much, either lol...

NewBlacksmurf · July 2014

Well one time in lute camp....

And everyone was doing it...

You had to be there because it was just like this other time is flute camp.

Crazy stuff at level 10

Moonshadow66 · July 2014

Srugzal wrote: »

How about 4 people dropping their ultimates in a crowded bank while a 5th person spams Impulse. Does that qualify? Happened in Riften this morning. VR pranksters.

As far as I've seen it with two Pact characters by now, the bank in Riften seems to be the most popular place to constantly spam skills/spells. And yes, mostly VR's.

I guess it's because it's the last zone of the Pact areas and they just come back from Coldharbour (and beyond) to show off the new achieved spells. Like 5-year-old kids who show their parents what new picture they have drawn

But not only VR's; in the bank it's just enough when an area-based levelled player spams healing spells all the time, you can barely see your inventory. And they seem to never run out of magicka, I don't know why^^

Besides of that, but still in Riften: the top of the cake is the constantly repeating "it's here!", which almost seems like the devs were/are trolling (no offense)

Iluvrien · July 2014

Most of my experiences fall into two types:

1) Players following between spawn nodes (especially runes) and then waiting until you take on any guarding mob before jumping on the resource (I once had someone stand there motionless for 5 minutes just waiting for me to pull the mob).

2) If you try and RP in any space that is immediately available to the public, this has mostly applied to Inns, you always get someone, or on one occasion 3 people, jumping around you, spamming AOE effects and filling /say with spam.

...great times.

Rylana · July 2014

I find this thread offensive. How dare you label us as griefers, we are roleplaying, I am sorry that you feel entitled to your form of roleplay more than mine.

/shovel
/dishonor

Requiemslove · July 2014

Those times when you were in a gruelling battle, one you will just about pull through, and your fighting the last of say 4 enemies and some a-s-s-hat comes out of the blue and kills the last mob, just to get a bit extra xp. [when you would prefer they just go further on]

@Snugzal Just to be a counter to your point about others not attacking mobs when they are clearly eyeing them. For me, the opposite, the not attacking mobs you are obviously going to attack, is the social and right thing to do. My motto is don't get involved unless another player needs help. [unless the other player acts like a tool, then let em die. lol]

zhevon · July 2014

Raygee wrote: »

But not only VR's; in the bank it's just enough when an area-based levelled player spams healing spells all the time, you can barely see your inventory. And they seem to never run out of magicka, I don't know why^^

All bank areas have this issue - its [snip] ridiculous. Occassionally some <bleep> thinks its fun to run a blood fountain or the mages who just have to have their clanifers or that flying thing with them all-the-time. I suggested awhile back that they make bank areas non-magical.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

kitsinni · July 2014

These are not exactly griefing but I have been out grinding and see someone try to round up every mob out there and run off with them. I laughed about it because they pulled more than they could and died anyway.

That and a lot of sorcs bolt escaping to beat you to a node they see you going after.

ebondeath · July 2014

Mostly people emptying guild banks then immediately jumping ship. People, if you're trying to pull a Grinch, you're supposed to come back with the stuff. Jeez.

This is why we can't have nice things, because other people run off with them.

kieso · July 2014

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fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

Please list some negative experiences you've had with griefers or trolls in this game. I mean real players only. Bots from the first two months are a given.

Bots still exist, they're still causing problems and 'legit' players are using them to farm and grind in Coldharbour.

I haven't seen BOTS in about a month or so; ocassionally I do see some dual boxer's though but that's not on topic. Honestly I don't see any griefing what so ever.

Tabbycat · July 2014

ebondeath wrote: »

Mostly people emptying guild banks then immediately jumping ship. People, if you're trying to pull a Grinch, you're supposed to come back with the stuff. Jeez.

This is why we can't have nice things, because other people run off with them.

This is why you don't let strangers take stuff from your bank.

Lunerdog · July 2014

Srugzal wrote: »

How about 4 people dropping their ultimates in a crowded bank while a 5th person spams Impulse. Does that qualify? Happened in Riften this morning. VR pranksters.

This ^^^

At Banks, Vendors, Crafting Tables, Quest Givers etc where folk are trying to concentrate on what they're doing and it's very distracting.

I have a V12 too but I don't feel the need to show of like a jerk.

I now report every one of them for harassment and suggest others do the same.

ebondeath · July 2014

Tabbycat wrote: »

ebondeath wrote: »

Mostly people emptying guild banks then immediately jumping ship. People, if you're trying to pull a Grinch, you're supposed to come back with the stuff. Jeez.

This is why we can't have nice things, because other people run off with them.

This is why you don't let strangers take stuff from your bank.

It's no skin off of my nose, I don't even use guild banks. But it upsets my guildies. One of my guilds is very locked down and only the GM and top rank officers can access it, the other is completely open and insists on trusting people until they prove themselves untrustworthy.

It's like Goldilocks and the bears' porridge. People complain that one is too strict with their bank rules, then others complain that the other is too lenient with theirs. I'm just like whatever, I'm having bank porridge.

Tavore1138 · July 2014

Samadhi wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

Please list some negative experiences you've had...

In the forum community I'm sometimes labeled as though I'm somehow reprehensible or a sociopath because I'm a player that enjoys PvP and is interested in the new NPC killing feature.
Being discriminated against by other players because I enjoy particular game systems causes me grief.

Is there a special term for this? Sociopathism? Can you find a support group?

UrQuan · July 2014

Requiemslove wrote: »

Those times when you were in a gruelling battle, one you will just about pull through, and your fighting the last of say 4 enemies and some a-s-s-hat comes out of the blue and kills the last mob, just to get a bit extra xp. [when you would prefer they just go further on]

That's not griefing. If you're in a tough battle like that and someone comes and kills the last mob, chances are they saw you were having a tough time and came to help out.

AlexDougherty · July 2014

Ur-Quan wrote: »

Requiemslove wrote: »

Those times when you were in a gruelling battle, one you will just about pull through, and your fighting the last of say 4 enemies and some a-s-s-hat comes out of the blue and kills the last mob, just to get a bit extra xp. [when you would prefer they just go further on]

That's not griefing. If you're in a tough battle like that and someone comes and kills the last mob, chances are they saw you were having a tough time and came to help out.

Yes, I usually stand back and see if they can do it without me interferring, and I will usually only jump in if they are in trouble. With Dolmens and Bosses as an immediate exception, I assume everyone needs help with them, I know I do.