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Do You Like Or HATE The Useless White Gear From Nodes & Enemies.

  • Svann
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    *Couldn't* care less. Couldn't.

    If I could care less, then I clearly care about the thing.

    Technically, expressions are not intended to be strictly interpreted. What would you think it meant if someone said "I could give a sh*t". Would you claim that the person *couldnt* give one would be more correct? Its really the same meaning but your way makes even less sense.

    Edited by Svann on July 18, 2014 7:07PM
  • nerevarine1138
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    *Couldn't* care less. Couldn't.

    If I could care less, then I clearly care about the thing.

    Technically, expressions are not intended to be strictly interpreted. What would you think it meant if someone said "I could give a sh*t". Would you claim that the person *couldnt* give one would be more correct? Its really the same meaning but your way makes even less sense.

    Technically, "I could care less," isn't the expression, and neither is the expression you quoted. Those are mangled versions of the idiomatic, "I couldn't care less," or "I don't give a crap."

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  • badmojo
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    You people realize it's the same gear as green & blue, just not upgraded...
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  • RatsnevE
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    badmojo wrote: »
    You people realize it's the same gear as green & blue, just not upgraded...
    That's right and if you self-find enchanted upgraded weapons and armor the white stuff is worthless and the merchants will give you 0 gold for it too. But if you are a skilled crafter go for it. I'm not--thus my vote.
    Edited by RatsnevE on July 18, 2014 7:58PM
  • Stx
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    It was a step in the right direction.. making this game more like an Elder Scrolls game. If you see a weapon rack, you should be able to go pick up the weapon, simple. This was a great change and I really don't see how anyone can complain about this... if you don't want the low quality weapons, then don't loot them... dur.
  • RatsnevE
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Exactly, I don't loot them now. But just to make a whine out of it. There is no reason why these weapons and armor pieces couldn't be as good as if not better then the average ones that get dropped sometimes. Instead they are just white basic nothing. Were weapons and armor you previously found or bought scarce to find or buy?
    Edited by RatsnevE on July 18, 2014 8:37PM
  • Blade_07
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Stx wrote: »
    It was a step in the right direction.. making this game more like an Elder Scrolls game. If you see a weapon rack, you should be able to go pick up the weapon, simple. This was a great change and I really don't see how anyone can complain about this... if you don't want the low quality weapons, then don't loot them... dur.

    So you can pick it up. Dose that give it some sort of value? NOPE! Seriously, what is the point in picking up a piece of useless crap? People really think that is cool? Yippy, I just picked up a piece of junk that I cannot use for anything. I'm so gunna use this white sword with no stats what so ever over my epic grade sword that kicks ars! lmao.....NOT! I guess if you get your thrills off picking this junk up then have fun......
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    Edited by Blade_07 on July 18, 2014 9:12PM
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  • Magdalina
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    Er, the white hear in containers is kinda annoying, since it isn't even full scale white gear technically, but the mobs' drops are perfectly fine. You can't expect a green/blue/purple drop every time, and white is still much better than nothing. Ever since I maxed my own crafts, I send the stuff to one of my lower lvl friends who gets a ton of experience deconstructing these and is just super happy:) Just because I don't need it, doesn't mean no one does;)
  • Daenerys
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    why do we have these armor and weapons that offer "no usable items found" when deconstructing, and 0 gold? just taking up inventory space and annoying imo
  • Blade_07
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Er, the white hear in containers is kinda annoying, since it isn't even full scale white gear technically, but the mobs' drops are perfectly fine. You can't expect a green/blue/purple drop every time, and white is still much better than nothing. Ever since I maxed my own crafts, I send the stuff to one of my lower lvl friends who gets a ton of experience deconstructing these and is just super happy:) Just because I don't need it, doesn't mean no one does;)

    Yes, but the white gear is taking the place of green/blue/purple gear that is WAY better to decon. for XP & items. Yes, you still get the green/blue/purple gear but at a much lesser drop rate now!!! Wouldn't you rather have green/blue gear to decon? I would think so. I would and so would anybody with half a brain(not saying you only have half a brain).
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • nerevarine1138
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Er, the white hear in containers is kinda annoying, since it isn't even full scale white gear technically, but the mobs' drops are perfectly fine. You can't expect a green/blue/purple drop every time, and white is still much better than nothing. Ever since I maxed my own crafts, I send the stuff to one of my lower lvl friends who gets a ton of experience deconstructing these and is just super happy:) Just because I don't need it, doesn't mean no one does;)

    Yes, but the white gear is taking the place of green/blue/purple gear that is WAY better to decon. for XP & items. Yes, you still get the green/blue/purple gear but at a much lesser drop rate now!!! Wouldn't you rather have green/blue gear to decon? I would think so. I would and so would anybody with half a brain(not saying you only have half a brain).

    Containers that drop the new white items never had a chance of dropping gear in the first place, regardless of the quality.
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  • Arsenic_Touch
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    Other. Please explain.
    I like it as a basis to a bigger system. They need to make them worth gold, Have a chance for better items or unique skins. IE you find an adventurers sword in a cave that is nothing like anything you've ever seen before. Or they can even put quests with them where you find an old rusted sword white sword and take it to specialty blacksmith to turn it into something awesome.

    So much potential with the system and I doubt they're going to utilize it all.
    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?

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  • thedatajunkie
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    I always figured that they would just add value to the white items lying around when they put the justice system into play. Thus giving people a reason to steal them and a way to stop bots from exploiting them.
  • SirAndy
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Minute XP from deconstructing, pathetically low chance to drop mats, worth nothing.

    In short, a complete waste of bagspace and game time. Beyond annoying.
    :(
  • Blade_07
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Er, the white hear in containers is kinda annoying, since it isn't even full scale white gear technically, but the mobs' drops are perfectly fine. You can't expect a green/blue/purple drop every time, and white is still much better than nothing. Ever since I maxed my own crafts, I send the stuff to one of my lower lvl friends who gets a ton of experience deconstructing these and is just super happy:) Just because I don't need it, doesn't mean no one does;)

    Yes, but the white gear is taking the place of green/blue/purple gear that is WAY better to decon. for XP & items. Yes, you still get the green/blue/purple gear but at a much lesser drop rate now!!! Wouldn't you rather have green/blue gear to decon? I would think so. I would and so would anybody with half a brain(not saying you only have half a brain).

    Containers that drop the new white items never had a chance of dropping gear in the first place, regardless of the quality.

    If you notice, he was talking about both types. Not JUST the gear from nodes. Its the gear that drops from mobs that I'm referring to.


    Edited by Blade_07 on July 18, 2014 11:30PM
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Moonscythe
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    Other. Please explain.
    PrinceBoru wrote: »
    As if someone is questing without a weapon or clothing?

    You mean those nearly naked people I see running around town are just town exibitionists? They do generally have a weapon of course.
    Scura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
    Lalin del Sombra - Bosmer Sorcerer (alchemy/enchanting)
    Angevin Sarkany - Bosmer Dragonknight
    Alkemene Velothi - Dunmer Warden (Morrowind)
    Sanna yos'Phalen - Altmer Sorcerer (provisioning)
    Cosima di Mattina -Altmer Sorcerer
    Naria Andrano - Dunmer Templar
    Luca della Serata - Redguard Templar
  • nerevarine1138
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Er, the white hear in containers is kinda annoying, since it isn't even full scale white gear technically, but the mobs' drops are perfectly fine. You can't expect a green/blue/purple drop every time, and white is still much better than nothing. Ever since I maxed my own crafts, I send the stuff to one of my lower lvl friends who gets a ton of experience deconstructing these and is just super happy:) Just because I don't need it, doesn't mean no one does;)

    Yes, but the white gear is taking the place of green/blue/purple gear that is WAY better to decon. for XP & items. Yes, you still get the green/blue/purple gear but at a much lesser drop rate now!!! Wouldn't you rather have green/blue gear to decon? I would think so. I would and so would anybody with half a brain(not saying you only have half a brain).

    Containers that drop the new white items never had a chance of dropping gear in the first place, regardless of the quality.

    If you notice, he was talking about both types. Not JUST the gear from nodes. Its the gear that drops from mobs that I'm referring to.


    I didn't realize that, because that's completely immaterial to the thread. They haven't increased the drop rate for common (white) quality items from enemies, and those items can be vendored, enchanted, etc. Totally different system, and it has nothing to do with the poll.
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  • reagen_lionel
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    I like it. Just would be better if the white items you find laying around had at least some inspiration to them when deconstructing.
  • Delte
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    Other. Please explain.
    They wouldn't be so bad if hey had traits attached to them. That way at least they would be useful. 4 months into the game and still not had a dagger drop from a mob on 3 characters.
  • SirAndy
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    PrinceBoru wrote: »
    As if someone is questing without a weapon or clothing?
    @PrinceBoru
    My fellow Naked Nords and myself for example.

    To quote another Naked Nord after beating Mannimarco butt naked:
    "Mannimarco's most embarrassing moment!"
    :D
    Edited by SirAndy on July 19, 2014 5:39PM
  • Zorrashi
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    Other. Please explain.
    Honestly, I'm relatively ok with it. White drops from mobs are worth something, so they instantly get sold to a vendor.

    But the stuff in containers? I'll admit they are annoying. But its nothing that a few clicks--or less thereof--can fix.
  • Blade_07
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Er, the white hear in containers is kinda annoying, since it isn't even full scale white gear technically, but the mobs' drops are perfectly fine. You can't expect a green/blue/purple drop every time, and white is still much better than nothing. Ever since I maxed my own crafts, I send the stuff to one of my lower lvl friends who gets a ton of experience deconstructing these and is just super happy:) Just because I don't need it, doesn't mean no one does;)

    Yes, but the white gear is taking the place of green/blue/purple gear that is WAY better to decon. for XP & items. Yes, you still get the green/blue/purple gear but at a much lesser drop rate now!!! Wouldn't you rather have green/blue gear to decon? I would think so. I would and so would anybody with half a brain(not saying you only have half a brain).

    Containers that drop the new white items never had a chance of dropping gear in the first place, regardless of the quality.

    If you notice, he was talking about both types. Not JUST the gear from nodes. Its the gear that drops from mobs that I'm referring to.


    I didn't realize that, because that's completely immaterial to the thread. They haven't increased the drop rate for common (white) quality items from enemies, and those items can be vendored, enchanted, etc. Totally different system, and it has nothing to do with the poll.

    Yeah, should have split the 2 types up in the poll but I hate them both and thats why I mentioned them both in the title. I think most people in here got the idea!
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    Edited by Blade_07 on July 21, 2014 2:33PM
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  • Blade_07
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    Delte wrote: »
    They wouldn't be so bad if hey had traits attached to them. That way at least they would be useful. 4 months into the game and still not had a dagger drop from a mob on 3 characters.

    Yeah, dagger is really rare now it seems

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  • SlachtungFyand
    The stuff is useful when your first starting out. You can go to vendors of the armor type you prefer and get a free set of armor from the "display racks". Better than nothing and it's always the level your character is presently.

    What I like most about this is the armor type is usually specific to the race of the vendor, so it's my opportunity to try on different styles and see what looks good on my female Dunmer chick. Fashion is important to me ;) I hate spending tons of gold on armor only to find it hides my Maeli's curvy figure and makes her look like a linebacker.
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  • Innocente
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    This was a massive nerf to container drops. I just don't get ZOS anymore. I don't even bother with containers now. If I need something, I just buy it from one of the Guild Stores I patronize. Good for the folks that still farm them, I suppose; not so good for the health of the game, in my opinion.
  • TheBull
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    4 years ago I enchanted a entire set of white Frostworn armor during the Wotlk :\ I like the stuff.
  • Pangnirtung
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    I utterly & completely HATE it to death and want Zenimax to remove it!!!
    White gear for me is a TOTAL and COMPLETE waste of time and space. What is the point of this gear? Has a valid explanation ever been given?
  • Sotha_Sil
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    White gear is helping you out to level up your crafting skills and providing gold when you don't want to use it. So i'd say, don't change it !
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  • Mountain_Dewed
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    If it messes with the bots, me likey... If not, well...
  • The_Death_Princess
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    I love it and think its awesome!!!
    Looks like people are not seeing the point of the whites. This is your gold bonus. Sell frequent and often. Every wandering Merch I see is a sell time.

    If you get tired of trunk items, well then dont farm trunks. It was implemented for the reason of killing bots and I would much rather that than have a total collapse of the economy like Neverwinter Online has now experienced. ROFLMAO @ NWO for changing the game when PWE came along and allowing the gold (AD) farmers more power and thinking it meant more cash for them when in the end they couldnt get cash from sales of the currency.

    GO GO FTP for the win!!!
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