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Should TESO include purely exclusive content?
TeraAngelos
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On the heels of the current debate regarding the exclusive White Wolfhound pet (pun intended), I'm curious to know how everybody feels about exclusive content.
To clarify, by exclusive, I mean content that is completely unattainable by certain areas of the population. For example, the wolfhound that is currently only available to those purchasing the game this weekend on Steam. The Rings of Mara, as an example, are not exclusive content, as they can still be obtained by purchasing the Imperial Edition.
Edited by TeraAngelos on July 17, 2014 11:41PM To clarify, by exclusive, I mean content that is completely unattainable by certain areas of the population. For example, the wolfhound that is currently only available to those purchasing the game this weekend on Steam. The Rings of Mara, as an example, are not exclusive content, as they can still be obtained by purchasing the Imperial Edition.
Should TESO include purely exclusive content? 80 votes
Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.
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No. All content should be obtainable in some way.
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Theosis✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.things like this should be a fairly hard achievement so that anyone can have if they are willing to do the workThis is were my signature would be if I was allowed one.2 -
Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.Steam itself is the exclusive content that I want... could care less about the bank filling junk...0
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ebondeath✭✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.I'm okay with the beta monkey being exclusive as an exception, but I wouldn't be upset if it weren't.
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BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.I think it is a good idea to offer "exclusive" content or items to entice new users into our community.
I also think that after a period of time this "exclusive" content should be made available to all as a purchasable upgrade or add on.
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Csub✭✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.I voted no, although I do not mind in some cases like if there was one that only active accounts after the first, say half a year get or anything that is available to everyone to that or at that certain time.
Giving something only to new people while ignoring the (loyal) subscribers is by no means fair or nice. Sure, give them rewards but give those also to the older players too. The new players are coming to a more polished game with more content anyway while many of us stuck with the game through its darker times.
Even if anniversary rewards are the same every year are okay, maybe adding something new each year but keeping the older ones as well."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn2 -
TeraAngelos✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.BrassRazoo wrote: »I think it is a good idea to offer "exclusive" content or items to entice new users into our community.
I also think that after a period of time this "exclusive" content should be made available to all as a purchasable upgrade or add on.
If this "exclusive content" is added later for all, I wouldn't consider it exclusive. Though I suppose it could be called exclusive for a period of time. So long as it isn't exclusive permanently, I would be okay with this. Not my preference, but I'd accept it.I voted no, although I do not mind in some cases like if there was one that only active accounts after the first, say half a year get or anything that is available to everyone to that or at that certain time.
This sounds fine to me as well!
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Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭I really don't see all the fuss. I mean who really cares? I certainly don't.- Veteran Combat Librarian -0 -
Exarch✭✭✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.I don't see it as a problem, as long as the content in question is cosmetic.2
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Csub✭✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.Dekkameron wrote: »I really don't see all the fuss. I mean who really cares? I certainly don't.
From what I have seen, more of us do than those who don't."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn1 -
stabbykitteh✭✭✭✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.As long as it's not something that gives an advantage, I have no issue with it. Bringing in new players benefits all of us. If they want/need to dangle a carrot or two to make that happen, so be it.0
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hk11✭✭✭✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.Yes I think the longer you have an account the more exclusive rewards you should get.2
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Miflett✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.I miss the days where content was seen as Gameplay, a value proposition, not something to be aggressively and predatorily marketed to a consumer.0
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No. All content should be obtainable in some way.Bottom line for me, if they want to give incentive for new players to join keep it to the sales. Isn't the Steam version 50% off or something? Items should always be obtainable, if they aren't it causes this exact issue. There are better ways of attracting players that then don't anger loyal members so much.1 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.Yes I think the longer you have an account the more exclusive rewards you should get.
I think most of us agree with this, problem is, ZOS decided to go in the opposite direction."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn0 -
indytims_ESO✭✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.I am already a subscriber. I will not be purchasing this game on Steam.
I would be willing to purchase things like the wolfhound by other means - so as of now, Zeni -could- be getting money from me, my wife, and I am sure other folks who are already subbers who would like the item in question, as well.
I've never understood this 'exclusive' concept. There are other people willing to throw money at Zeni, yet they only want the money from 'new' subs through Steam. Do they -really- think they stand to gain more subs that way then the number of subs they already have? Do they REALLY think that by offering the pet as an option to other subscribers (not via Steam) that folks considering the Steam option will suddenly change their minds? Why not offer it to -everyone-?
And furthermore - having this cosmetic pet as an 'exclusive' - are there really people out there who will base their buying decision on whether or not they get a cosmetic, useless pet that no current subscribers get?
It just sounds like an unwise business decision, from where I am sitting.
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No. All content should be obtainable in some way.Dekkameron wrote: »I really don't see all the fuss. I mean who really cares? I certainly don't.
Why comment on something that doesn't have meaning to you and as for who cares take a look at the forums? Bad Troll is Bad.1 -
No. All content should be obtainable in some way.Yes I think the longer you have an account the more exclusive rewards you should get.
I wouldn't consider this exclusive because anyone can eventually get it but I do agree. I like rewards for playing longer and being loyal(Loyalty Rewards) as many games have now. Not rewards that are given to new players simply to get them to subscribe, that's what discounts are for and have been for quite awhile.Edited by ianangelospreub18_ESO on July 18, 2014 12:28AM1 -
jessejarvisonlineb16_ESOSoul ShrivenYes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.I don't see it as a problem, as long as the content in question is cosmetic.
I agree. Cosmetic items are fine, just nothing that will let other players get ahead of others because somebody signed up on steam, or an anniversary or something.
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No. All content should be obtainable in some way.BrassRazoo wrote: »I think it is a good idea to offer "exclusive" content or items to entice new users into our community.
I also think that after a period of time this "exclusive" content should be made available to all as a purchasable upgrade or add on.
Then it is technically not exclusive if at any point everyone can obtain the same thing weather by cash shop or in game.0 -
LordEcks✭✭✭The fact that is not practical to obtain is what makes it unfair.
The Imperial Edition was a choice, and if you chose not to get it you didnt get the Imperial Race, but everyone who bought the game had the choice of getting or not getting it.
It seems like most on these forums are willing to pay for the dog, but even if they pay they cannot have it on their current account / characters.1 -
TeraAngelos✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.It seems like most on these forums are willing to pay for the dog, but even if they pay they cannot have it on their current account / characters.
Yup, that's the issue. I'll gladly pay a bit if they put the dog in their cash shop or something. I can't throw away over 3.5 months of work and my V12 toon with 7100 achievement points to get a vanity pet.0 -
No. All content should be obtainable in some way.The fact that is not practical to obtain is what makes it unfair.
The Imperial Edition was a choice, and if you chose not to get it you didnt get the Imperial Race, but everyone who bought the game had the choice of getting or not getting it.
It seems like most on these forums are willing to pay for the dog, but even if they pay they cannot have it on their current account / characters.
Yup, this. Even if you get past the slap in the face to loyal members and the ridiculous price to buy an entire other game just for the dog and that doesn't bother you, you still have this problem.0 -
Miflett✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.You'd think that making an oldschool throwback game like this they'd realize that a majority of their community don't want a limited content cash extravaganza. If I wanted a future like that, I'd be in Wildstar.0
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BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.ianangelospreub18_ESO wrote: »BrassRazoo wrote: »I think it is a good idea to offer "exclusive" content or items to entice new users into our community.
I also think that after a period of time this "exclusive" content should be made available to all as a purchasable upgrade or add on.
Then it is technically not exclusive if at any point everyone can obtain the same thing weather by cash shop or in game.
This is they way these things operate in most cases these days.
They are "exclusive" at that time for that specific purchase.
They are not permanently exclusive.
Like the Imperial Edition for example.
Imperial edition got exclusive items, maps, class, crafting, include in that edition.
So they are still exclusive for the case of the original Imperial Edition purchase just they can be purchased later on (upgraded) by people who originally had a Standard Edition.
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TeraAngelos✭✭✭No. All content should be obtainable in some way.BrassRazoo wrote: »ianangelospreub18_ESO wrote: »BrassRazoo wrote: »I think it is a good idea to offer "exclusive" content or items to entice new users into our community.
I also think that after a period of time this "exclusive" content should be made available to all as a purchasable upgrade or add on.
Then it is technically not exclusive if at any point everyone can obtain the same thing weather by cash shop or in game.
This is they way these things operate in most cases these days.
They are "exclusive" at that time for that specific purchase.
They are not permanently exclusive.
Like the Imperial Edition for example.
Imperial edition got exclusive items, maps, class, crafting, include in that edition.
So they are still exclusive for the case of the original Imperial Edition purchase just they can be purchased later on (upgraded) by people who originally had a Standard Edition.
The point of the poll is to address things that are permanently exclusive. The Imperial Edition was never exclusive, the upgrade was always an option. Pre-order bonuses are a good example of something exclusive... you can't get it later no matter what you do.
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No. All content should be obtainable in some way.BrassRazoo wrote: »ianangelospreub18_ESO wrote: »BrassRazoo wrote: »I think it is a good idea to offer "exclusive" content or items to entice new users into our community.
I also think that after a period of time this "exclusive" content should be made available to all as a purchasable upgrade or add on.
Then it is technically not exclusive if at any point everyone can obtain the same thing weather by cash shop or in game.
This is they way these things operate in most cases these days.
They are "exclusive" at that time for that specific purchase.
They are not permanently exclusive.
Like the Imperial Edition for example.
Imperial edition got exclusive items, maps, class, crafting, include in that edition.
So they are still exclusive for the case of the original Imperial Edition purchase just they can be purchased later on (upgraded) by people who originally had a Standard Edition.
Currently there is no notion of this being the case with the dog and the forum thread is for Purely Exclusive.
That being said I wouldn't mind if they added it to the store or something but they still need to add the explorer pack to the store as well.1 -
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✭✭✭The Imperial Edition came with an exclusive White Imperial Horse.
It wasn't long after that you could buy the Palomino in the store.
I wouldn't be surprised if a color variation of this pet is available in the store in the near future.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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KingAlen✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.Its fine to have exclusive rewards, except this steam exclusive is total crap they are getting the game at a reduced price that is reward enough.0
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✭Yes. There's nothing wrong with some exclusive rewards.I got a pet monkey for playing during beta. No big deal to me as long as it's just a vanity item. If ZOS marketing is smart, they will capitalize on the interest in this wolf but only after the promotion is over otherwise it defeats the purpose. This is just marketing.
Trying to demand access to it now is really kinda selfish. They are using a promo to get more players to join us in ESO... It's a good thing, not the scandal it is being made out to be.
Edited by Enkil on July 18, 2014 2:22AM0
