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Ok Sorcs Enough
frwinters_ESO
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Seems all the DKs re-rolled to make Sorcs because this is all I am getting on the battlefield lately.
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Hit 4-5 times from 2-3 different sorcs, knocked down continuously with no way to get up or defend yourself. Then there is this one that I have seen other posts about:
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Yes explosions from familars that are not even summoned. I do melee NB and this only seems to happen to me when I get in there face, pop an Aoe like Bat Swarm then POOF im dead? I killed templars, other NB and DK's no problem, ever sorc i encounter seemed to have the above effects and dead. Am I missing something or the only one that has noticed these patterns?
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Hit 4-5 times from 2-3 different sorcs, knocked down continuously with no way to get up or defend yourself. Then there is this one that I have seen other posts about:
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Yes explosions from familars that are not even summoned. I do melee NB and this only seems to happen to me when I get in there face, pop an Aoe like Bat Swarm then POOF im dead? I killed templars, other NB and DK's no problem, ever sorc i encounter seemed to have the above effects and dead. Am I missing something or the only one that has noticed these patterns?
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Bramir✭✭✭✭Your problem seems to be that you are getting hit by four people at once and expecting to survive without help...11 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭Your problem seems to be that you are getting hit by four people at once and expecting to survive without help...
The crystal shards one yes, though it can be from one if they get the freebee proc it can be just one. the Volitile Familar damage explosions, in most cases there was no familar anywhere near the sorc. I dunno if they cast them out before death or something but I do not see it. Ever.0 -
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✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »Your problem seems to be that you are getting hit by four people at once and expecting to survive without help...
The crystal shards one yes, though it can be from one if they get the freebee proc it can be just one. the Volitile Familar damage explosions, in most cases there was no familar anywhere near the sorc. I dunno if they cast them out before death or something but I do not see it. Ever.
The familiars are being fixed next Monday (so no need to bring them up). As for the fragments, learn to roll and use your cloak. Only DKs can tank 4 players hammering on them continually.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »Your problem seems to be that you are getting hit by four people at once and expecting to survive without help...
The crystal shards one yes, though it can be from one if they get the freebee proc it can be just one. the Volitile Familar damage explosions, in most cases there was no familar anywhere near the sorc. I dunno if they cast them out before death or something but I do not see it. Ever.
The familiars are being fixed next Monday (so no need to bring them up). As for the fragments, learn to roll and use your cloak. Only DKs can tank 4 players hammering on them continually.
I did not know the familar thing was some sort of bug. Can you link me any references?
When yoru knocked down I cant roll away to just get up so that doesnt work.0 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Your problem seems to be that you are getting hit by four people at once and expecting to survive without help...
The crystal shards one yes, though it can be from one if they get the freebee proc it can be just one. the Volitile Familar damage explosions, in most cases there was no familar anywhere near the sorc. I dunno if they cast them out before death or something but I do not see it. Ever.
The familiars are being fixed next Monday (so no need to bring them up). As for the fragments, learn to roll and use your cloak. Only DKs can tank 4 players hammering on them continually.
I did not know the familar thing was some sort of bug. Can you link me any references?
When yoru knocked down I cant roll away to just get up so that doesnt work.
and i just found the link on my own, good to know that was a bug and will be fixed.
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AlexDrago✭✭✭I don't understand. Month ago there was dozens of "nerf BE"-threads. Because Sorc's run away cause Sorc don't want to fight and etc.
BE was nerfed to Oblivion, so right now it's a useless skill which spent your mana and leads you to death. Sorc's start to fight and learn some tactics.
And you don't like it again. May be you just don't like sorc's or just want them to be free kills?
But don't worry, i thibk, that CF soon be nerfed, after Atronach nerf, and most of Sorc's leaving TESO, so you can play a game without sorc's.If you have nothing to say say nothing ©8 -
yorzo✭✭✭Press block+weapon attack together to break out of CCs including knockdowns. You could also use the heavy armor skill immovable, but the best advice I can give you is to re-roll a DK
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Arsenic_Touch✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't understand. Month ago there was dozens of "nerf BE"-threads. Because Sorc's run away cause Sorc don't want to fight and etc.
BE was nerfed to Oblivion, so right now it's a useless skill which spent your mana and leads you to death. Sorc's start to fight and learn some tactics.
And you don't like it again. May be you just don't like sorc's or just want them to be free kills?
But don't worry, i thibk, that CF soon be nerfed, after Atronach nerf, and most of Sorc's leaving TESO, so you can play a game without sorc's.
BE was not nerfed into oblivion and it's most certainly not worthless as you claim.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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"Fear can claim what little faith remains."
"Death will take those who fight alone."
"But united we can break a fate once set in stone."
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Other than the proc, crystal fragments has a nice animation that will alert you that it is coming. The sorcs hands will glow purple as the shard assembles. When this happens you can either hold block or dodge. However the best thing you can do is to reflect it either through the DK reflect or the reflect "defensive stance" from the sword and board line.
One of the good things about defensive stance is that it works on horseback because it last for 30 seconds. You can even bait the unwarry sorc out of stealth by horsing up with defensive stance on. When he shards you on horse, hoping for an extended knock down, he will instead be the one knocked down.Edited by Armitas on July 16, 2014 9:08PMRetired.
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monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »Seems all the DKs re-rolled to make Sorcs because this is all I am getting on the battlefield lately.
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Hit 4-5 times from 2-3 different sorcs, knocked down continuously with no way to get up or defend yourself. Then there is this one that I have seen other posts about:
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Yes explosions from familars that are not even summoned. I do melee NB and this only seems to happen to me when I get in there face, pop an Aoe like Bat Swarm then POOF im dead? I killed templars, other NB and DK's no problem, ever sorc i encounter seemed to have the above effects and dead. Am I missing something or the only one that has noticed these patterns?
True, 70% of the DKs in my guild rerolled when they got nerfhammered over and over by ZOS.
But I see a lot of Templar rerollers as well, especially after the buffs and the OP blazing builds.6 -
AlexDrago✭✭✭
[sarcasm mode on] of course not. Just cost 80% more on second cast and reduce you mana regen to 4. Very useful skill, that leads you to fast and easy death and gives you opponent an AP and a kill. [sarcasm mode off].Arsenic_Touch wrote: »I don't understand. Month ago there was dozens of "nerf BE"-threads. Because Sorc's run away cause Sorc don't want to fight and etc.
BE was nerfed to Oblivion, so right now it's a useless skill which spent your mana and leads you to death. Sorc's start to fight and learn some tactics.
And you don't like it again. May be you just don't like sorc's or just want them to be free kills?
But don't worry, i thibk, that CF soon be nerfed, after Atronach nerf, and most of Sorc's leaving TESO, so you can play a game without sorc's.
BE was not nerfed into oblivion and it's most certainly not worthless as you claim.
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FunkyBudda✭✭✭I don't understand. Month ago there was dozens of "nerf BE"-threads. Because Sorc's run away cause Sorc don't want to fight and etc.
BE was nerfed to Oblivion, so right now it's a useless skill which spent your mana and leads you to death. Sorc's start to fight and learn some tactics.
And you don't like it again. May be you just don't like sorc's or just want them to be free kills?
+1.
Edited by FunkyBudda on July 16, 2014 9:25PM2 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Every time a DK reads a DK IS OP thread they have to make a Sorc is OP thread just to try and deflect the attention.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points9 -
Arsenic_Touch✭✭✭✭✭
✭[sarcasm mode on] of course not. Just cost 80% more on second cast and reduce you mana regen to 4. Very useful skill, that leads you to fast and easy death and gives you opponent an AP and a kill. [sarcasm mode off].
Yet sorcs still have no issue spamming it and getting away with it now. It's such a travesty that the lesser skilled and geared players can't abuse it. You'll get over it.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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"Hope can drown lost in thunderous sound."
"Fear can claim what little faith remains."
"Death will take those who fight alone."
"But united we can break a fate once set in stone."
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭This thread... just wow."nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »Seems all the DKs re-rolled to make Sorcs because this is all I am getting on the battlefield lately.
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Hit 4-5 times from 2-3 different sorcs, knocked down continuously with no way to get up or defend yourself. Then there is this one that I have seen other posts about:
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Yes explosions from familars that are not even summoned. I do melee NB and this only seems to happen to me when I get in there face, pop an Aoe like Bat Swarm then POOF im dead? I killed templars, other NB and DK's no problem, ever sorc i encounter seemed to have the above effects and dead. Am I missing something or the only one that has noticed these patterns?
This is called 'SKILL' man. I know, tough to recognize but now you know.
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
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it is not a useless skill. I have seen sorcs use it many times post nerf. in fact, iv seen it multiple times today. and sorcs often escape with it nowadays. they just cant instantly port back to battle after they heal like they used to constantly do. just because you cant spam it relentlessly does not mean it is useless.I don't understand. Month ago there was dozens of "nerf BE"-threads. Because Sorc's run away cause Sorc don't want to fight and etc.
BE was nerfed to Oblivion, so right now it's a useless skill which spent your mana and leads you to death. Sorc's start to fight and learn some tactics.
And you don't like it again. May be you just don't like sorc's or just want them to be free kills?
But don't worry, i thibk, that CF soon be nerfed, after Atronach nerf, and most of Sorc's leaving TESO, so you can play a game without sorc's.
and crystal fragments are pretty annoying. I too get a little irritated by them, BUT its not really that hard to counter them. if the guy gets you from behind, so be it. but if he/she is in front of you, and is doing the animation of casting it, all you have to do is hold down block for a few seconds. I myself have never really faced a sorc that spammed it like crazy, like you claim they do. sorcs I face start off with it, then proceed to do mages fury and some other combination of abilities, then try to escape using BE most of the time.Edited by Cody on July 17, 2014 2:18AM0 -
ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Sounds like the OP suffers from a weird combo of latency+serverlag that I sometimes get (and I see it on feeds and clips too) where you basically just drop dead without seeing any animations. The death recap shows stuff that is supposed to have happened in the last 3-5 seconds.
My latency isn't 5000ms (of course) but it seems like it sometimes. You can still attack without that delay - it's just the returning damage etc that is delayed. Other people have noticed this kind of effect but it's certainly not universal and it's only sometimes.
Some clients seem to get priority in some situations. "Seem". I feel like I'm the lucky guy sometimes and the poor *** other times. What's actually going on there I don't know. You just have to predict what's going to happen until it clears up. With the sorcs the OP is talking about it should be easy. Expect frags at all times. :P1 -
ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭As others said... you are being attacked by multiple people. DUHHHH what the heck do you expect? So if one uses their ability, what you're saying is the others shouldn't count against you? Get a group or BECOME A BETTER SOLO GANKER. Or stop picking Nirnroot around Cyrodiil expecting no one will see you eventually.
My main is a NB, I do not have this problem. I have a minimum of 1 of every class and every alliance, Vamp, WW, neither, all 3 different armor wearing, one with mixed... etc... I really mix up my ESO experience and I can tell half the people on these forums are full of cra* or do not have much common sense...possibly both. You answered your own complaint.... 2-3 people attacking you. Keep practicing and start paying attention, it's important for a stealthy class. Edited by ThisOnePosts on July 17, 2014 3:16AM2 -
AlexDrago✭✭✭
I don't like tales, so don't tell me about "thousands" of sorc's, who use BE after nerf". Only for travel purpose and not often.NookyZooky wrote: »
it is not a useless skill. I have seen sorcs use it many times post nerf. in fact, iv seen it multiple times today. and sorcs often escape with it nowadays. they just cant instantly port back to battle after they heal like they used to constantly do. just because you cant spam it relentlessly does not mean it is useless.I don't understand. Month ago there was dozens of "nerf BE"-threads. Because Sorc's run away cause Sorc don't want to fight and etc.
BE was nerfed to Oblivion, so right now it's a useless skill which spent your mana and leads you to death. Sorc's start to fight and learn some tactics.
And you don't like it again. May be you just don't like sorc's or just want them to be free kills?
But don't worry, i thibk, that CF soon be nerfed, after Atronach nerf, and most of Sorc's leaving TESO, so you can play a game without sorc's.
and crystal fragments are pretty annoying. I too get a little irritated by them, BUT its not really that hard to counter them. if the guy gets you from behind, so be it. but if he/she is in front of you, and is doing the animation of casting it, all you have to do is hold down block for a few seconds. I myself have never really faced a sorc that spammed it like crazy, like you claim they do. sorcs I face start off with it, then proceed to do mages fury and some other combination of abilities, then try to escape using BE most of the time.
And about CF - just l2p. CF is slow, CF can be - blocked, avoided, reflected. If you don't do this things - just l2p and stop whinning.
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apostate9✭✭✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »Seems all the DKs re-rolled to make Sorcs because this is all I am getting on the battlefield lately.
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Crystal Fragments
Hit 4-5 times from 2-3 different sorcs, knocked down continuously with no way to get up or defend yourself. Then there is this one that I have seen other posts about:
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Volitile Familar
Yes explosions from familars that are not even summoned. I do melee NB and this only seems to happen to me when I get in there face, pop an Aoe like Bat Swarm then POOF im dead? I killed templars, other NB and DK's no problem, ever sorc i encounter seemed to have the above effects and dead. Am I missing something or the only one that has noticed these patterns?
Wow! You actually found a way to cry about DKs in a qq thread about sorcs! You get the award for the most tears shed in one pointless post.
Bravo!!
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kijima✭✭✭✭✭
✭Before anyone suggest to nerf anything, have a look at yourself in the mirror. Look at YOUR playstyle, YOUR build, YOUR synergies.
I know we live in a society of people today that doesn't want to take ownership of their own problems and inefficiencies, but man up for crying out loud.
Or put it another way, the dude in the dress with the whirling twirling purple hands is about to send some pain your way, block or dodge that stuff. It's not that hard, really... it's not.Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...2 -
aksyong✭✭✭If you can get killed by 5 CF in a row, without any other filler damage in between it only shows how bad you are.NA Daggerfall
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