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When would you want VR14 to come?
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crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭w/o soloable PvE content to accompany any such change, it should not be done, period.
V10-12 is a mistake to begin with, it was released with no soloable PvE content, and only limited area of which is being used, and I may add, abused.0 -
ItsMeToo✭✭✭✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »First i want content so that i can get to vr12 being a solo player , AFTER that , then sure , make vet14 and add content so that everyone can get it.
I agree, keep it coming.FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.Balance is a "Bad" thing.
Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.
Balance is a "Bad" thing.Is the glass half full or half empty?
I say, "Get a smaller glass."0 -
fromtesonlineb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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FFXI went three full expansions with the same level cap of 75. They had 'raid' like content where you could get better gear but it was largely horizontal progression with a large choice of end-game content to take part in, depending on your preference for large or small scale event.jelliedsoup wrote: »Never would be good, I've played since day 1, done what I wanted to and am vr5. Playing PvP with the strong advantage to a higher level is bad enough without adding even more inequity to the mix.
Has there ever been an MMO that HAVEN'T increased the max. level with each update?
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nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't know where you got the idea that they were including it in 1.3. They haven't stated that they plan on raising the level cap, and since they aren't adding any new PvE content, it would be a little ridiculous for them to do so.----
Murray?1 -
DanteVFenris✭✭✭There will never be a V14, they are changing the whole Vet level process.
Some of you sound like you've never played mmos. New content will keep being added. Eventually there will be vet 50s. This isn't my opinion, as long as they get the subs they need they will keep making new content. Right now they are focused on making 1-12 better, but after they will start adding the numbers on. Look at other mmos, wow started at level 60, now you can get to level 1000 -
DanteVFenris✭✭✭
I think you completely understood. They said you'd just gain normal experience instead. So maybe instead of vet 2 you'd be level 51. Same thing really. From what I understand anyway, but no where did they say they are removing. They are improvingjerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game
so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
It says VETERAN poins system. Not Veteran rank system. I mean, you will continue being VR(whatever level) or it will just dissapear the Veteran rank name?
I really would like to know. I don't understand why ZOS don't say a word.0 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
It says VETERAN poins system. Not Veteran rank system. I mean, you will continue being VR(whatever level) or it will just dissapear the Veteran rank name?
I really would like to know. I don't understand why ZOS don't say a word.
Because those changes aren't coming in the next content update, so they're probably still figuring out exactly what they'll look like.
It is not ZO's job to let you watch their development process.----
Murray?1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
It says VETERAN poins system. Not Veteran rank system. I mean, you will continue being VR(whatever level) or it will just dissapear the Veteran rank name?
I really would like to know. I don't understand why ZOS don't say a word.
Because those changes aren't coming in the next content update, so they're probably still figuring out exactly what they'll look like.
It is not ZO's job to let you watch their development process.
So then, what should you do with your VR level chars? I guess if you are VR 12 and they remove the VR system, there will appear another name and another kind of system but your char will just be ·transformed" into that?
When is supposed to appear this update?0 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
Not at all what they said, but ok.0 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
It says VETERAN poins system. Not Veteran rank system. I mean, you will continue being VR(whatever level) or it will just dissapear the Veteran rank name?
I really would like to know. I don't understand why ZOS don't say a word.
Because those changes aren't coming in the next content update, so they're probably still figuring out exactly what they'll look like.
It is not ZO's job to let you watch their development process.
So then, what should you do with your VR level chars? I guess if you are VR 12 and they remove the VR system, there will appear another name and another kind of system but your char will just be ·transformed" into that?
When is supposed to appear this update?
Well, you should continue to do whatever you want with your characters and not try to adjust them for an update that isn't going to be here until the end of the summer (at the earliest). They have given no indication that they plan on "de-leveling" VR characters, and I don't know why you think that's a strong possibility.----
Murray?1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
It says VETERAN poins system. Not Veteran rank system. I mean, you will continue being VR(whatever level) or it will just dissapear the Veteran rank name?
I really would like to know. I don't understand why ZOS don't say a word.
Because those changes aren't coming in the next content update, so they're probably still figuring out exactly what they'll look like.
It is not ZO's job to let you watch their development process.
So then, what should you do with your VR level chars? I guess if you are VR 12 and they remove the VR system, there will appear another name and another kind of system but your char will just be ·transformed" into that?
When is supposed to appear this update?
Well, you should continue to do whatever you want with your characters and not try to adjust them for an update that isn't going to be here until the end of the summer (at the earliest). They have given no indication that they plan on "de-leveling" VR characters, and I don't know why you think that's a strong possibility.
i don't think it is a strong possibility. But you never know, mainly if they don't say a word. Of course we should think there won't be de-leveling or similar. But, what if there are new quests or the alternate reality dissapear and you have a new story and you have just leveled too much or seen the other factions zones? I wouldn't like to redo again the same zones with another char.0 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »jerome.demyttenaereb16_ESO wrote: »VR level is about to be remove from the game so don't worry about this.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
See : VETERAN RANK SYSTEM
It says VETERAN poins system. Not Veteran rank system. I mean, you will continue being VR(whatever level) or it will just dissapear the Veteran rank name?
I really would like to know. I don't understand why ZOS don't say a word.
Because those changes aren't coming in the next content update, so they're probably still figuring out exactly what they'll look like.
It is not ZO's job to let you watch their development process.
So then, what should you do with your VR level chars? I guess if you are VR 12 and they remove the VR system, there will appear another name and another kind of system but your char will just be ·transformed" into that?
When is supposed to appear this update?
Well, you should continue to do whatever you want with your characters and not try to adjust them for an update that isn't going to be here until the end of the summer (at the earliest). They have given no indication that they plan on "de-leveling" VR characters, and I don't know why you think that's a strong possibility.
i don't think it is a strong possibility. But you never know, mainly if they don't say a word. Of course we should think there won't be de-leveling or similar. But, what if there are new quests or the alternate reality dissapear and you have a new story and you have just leveled too much or seen the other factions zones? I wouldn't like to redo again the same zones with another char.
And what if they make it so that aliens come down to Tamriel and steal away your experience?
They clearly are still finalizing the plans for VR changes, so just be patient. And stop scaring people who don't know any better with pointless speculation. They aren't going to force people to re-complete content.----
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✭✭✭Well you do have to do something to keep the game fresh and encourage players to continue playing. At some point they do need a solid level cap that lasts a while. But I'm not sure we're quite there yet.
Based on personal experience in various MMOs, I greatly prefer vertical progression to horizontal. Horizontal progression just gets boring after a while when you get to the point where you can't progress any further because there's nothing to do but recycle through the same content.Edited by Tabbycat on July 10, 2014 12:10PMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VR ranking needs to be a PvP only leveling.
PvE needs to cap at level 50.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »VR ranking needs to be a PvP only leveling.
PvE needs to cap at level 50.
That makes zero sense. Leveling should not be restricted to one playstyle.----
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Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭@nerevarine1138nerevarine1138 wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »VR ranking needs to be a PvP only leveling.
PvE needs to cap at level 50.
That makes zero sense. Leveling should not be restricted to one playstyle.
You're going to have to stop this. That's twice now in as many days I've had to agree with something you said !
What kind of a nemesis are you if you keep doing that...lol
Edited by Phantax on July 10, 2014 1:22PMHigh Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !0 -
I chose "Never" because I'd rather see a "real" 5 levels cap increase coming with a large content update instead of continuing with the VR crap increase..0 -
Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭jelliedsoup wrote: »Never would be good, I've played since day 1, done what I wanted to and am vr5. Playing PvP with the strong advantage to a higher level is bad enough without adding even more inequity to the mix.
Good job they are adding non vet campaigns then right?0 -
Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭i say 3-6 months, the fact that it is just a grind to get xp, and not like other MMO's where the endgame had you learn fights to gear the gear....ok fine i'm referring to wow, this does cause some to get to top gear with little skill, (never seen that happen before in WOW /sarcasm)
any way, these plays will always need to be taught or ignored, but shorter than 3 months? well we should give people time to actually get to VR max first.
Say you had a VR1 at craglorn, so you spend all that time trying to get to 12, well if you get that far, you only need to go a couple more when the next patch happens. so it wont take as much time, and leaves you to work on other characters. fact is it is really easy top level in this game, and if their isn't an incentive to keep growing your character, well it won't be long until you have all 4 classes maxed out0 -
ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭Ehhhh it depends when expanded content is released (not talking visuals like Dyes). When they add more zones, they should add more level caps.. but don't do it by 2... do it by a larger number so that it stays for quite a while and people can craft their gear knowing they will get plenty of use out of it. Also have people hitting max level while there's still plenty of questing to be done, so you have actual uses for such a high rank instead of the basic Dungeons, Trials, PVP... but quests as well. I know they sorta did that in Craglorn, but so many people just grinded their way instead of actually playing the game (I for one did it via content, not grinding.. I was VR9 when Craglorn released, I finished up the third alliance and then was just about VR10 but close to VR11... went to Craglorn and did all the quests, VR12 along the way). To each their own I guess.Edited by ThisOnePosts on July 10, 2014 4:44PM0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭I chose never but would have chose "Once they figure out how to implement meanigful end game content"0
