Braddass wrote: »

If they are not going to make NB on par with the other classes, they need to just acknowledge it so everyone will quit hoping for something good every patch (and having their hopes dashed by seeing things get worse). Then, let us switch our NB for one of the other classes and be done with it.

Already re rolled, had a vet 12 NB with a stamina build, it's ok 1v1 but useless when out numbered. Till they realise that stamina builds are broken compared to magika builds and that the NB skills are still not performing as they should it's best the shelf the NB and roll something else.

Only way it works is light armor, resto staff, inner light, Siphoning Attacks, sap essence spam for aoe, veil of blades when up, swallow soul spam for single target, veil of blades when up, repeat. Use light/heavy attacks as you see fit.

Any other way of playing a NB seems sub par. Don't agree with it, but as of right now, only way it seems to work.

Biggest problem I'm having is this...

Approach a pack of three, choose my target:

1.) Surprise Attack (75% of targets health, gone)
2.) Killers Blade (mobs dies)
3.)Shadowy disguise (reposition behind second target)
4.) Surprise attack... for 0 damage.

What the crap is that? And it's pretty consistent. My second Surprise Attack, the majority of the time, hits for Zero damage. Mob still gets stunned and I typically live through the encounter, but that's a sizable chunk of Magicka I'd rather not *** away on zero damage.

Increased critical damage from passive still broken, shadow cloak broken. They increased damage of Path of Darkness but it is still useless, deals less damage than wall off fire from destro staff.

Even OP DKs are getting buffs over the time, with 33% bonus from Obsidian Shield to healing done they are in the same position as Sorcs with healing, better than Templar (his passive increase in healing works only with class skills).

NB has almost nothing good to offer as a healer. Funnel Health like a rapid regen. ... During AMA just before game release you've said that you'll look into NB's support skills... well I feel like I've been lied to...

If you want to have a working class, enjoy having powerful, working abilities play as either Sorc or DK. (It feels like DK is favoured by developers, NB is like an unwanted child)

Since ZOS is a little slow with acknowledging known issues, I wonder if anyone else is currently tracking all broken abilities/passives. I know for sure Funnel Health, Dark Cloak and Impale still bug out on me regularly. It would be nice to have an overview of what's still broken aside from this difficult to navigate 55 page thread.

After pulling Crippling Grasp off my bar, my Dark Cloak has been working a bit better. Actually escaped last night. GASP*

Veil of Blades still seems to pull you out of stealth while it's active.

Jaxom wrote: »

After pulling Crippling Grasp off my bar, my Dark Cloak has been working a bit better. Actually escaped last night. GASP*

Veil of Blades still seems to pull you out of stealth while it's active.

It is sad, but true. Veil was fixed as far as breaking stealth for about 2 days. Then during their hotfix frenzy, some how it broke again.

Someone suggested it either here or on a different thread, that maybe person A is working on issue X and person B is working on issue Y. Person A fixes issue X, puts it into the patch or hot fix, it loads to server and goes live. Then person B fixes issue Y and puts it along with old issue X data into the next patch or hot fix, it uploads to server and goes live.

Don't know. Not a programmer, so don't know if this is possible or not but makes sense to me. It just kills me that for a day or so, Cloak seemed fixed, then they hot fixed for FPS issue, and it broke again.

I have been noticing as well that im being pulled out of Shadowy disguise and/or dark cloak a lot more now. To the point i feel this ability is useless now. Was a staple to most of my builds but if i cant invis and attack whats the point.

Road ahead states they are still looking at nightblades. This class has had the most problems then any other class since launch. Some small changes have been made, but none of it to help make the class something. Nightblades are turned away from trials less they are running light armor with destro staves, etc etc and not everyone is a min/max type player and wants to play what they are comfortable with. ZOS wants to encourage grouping but we can not group when everyone sees this class as under-performing. Nightblades do not have a role to play in a group that makes us viable.

We need purpose. I want to know what that purpose is or what the vision was for this class and how is ZOS going to fufill that vision.

frwinters_ESO wrote: »

I have been noticing as well that im being pulled out of Shadowy disguise and/or dark cloak a lot more now. To the point i feel this ability is useless now. Was a staple to most of my builds but if i cant invis and attack whats the point.

Road ahead states they are still looking at nightblades. This class has had the most problems then any other class since launch. Some small changes have been made, but none of it to help make the class something. Nightblades are turned away from trials less they are running light armor with destro staves, etc etc and not everyone is a min/max type player and wants to play what they are comfortable with. ZOS wants to encourage grouping but we can not group when everyone sees this class as under-performing. Nightblades do not have a role to play in a group that makes us viable.

We need purpose. I want to know what that purpose is or what the vision was for this class and how is ZOS going to fufill that vision.

"We’re continuing to make adjustments to the Nightblade. We believe that what we’ve done so far has helped, but there may be more on the way"

By the sound of the Road Ahead letter it seems they are satisfied with their "fixes" so far, even though at least half of the known issues still persist 2 months after this thread was started. And many more issues have popped up since that aren't even listed as known issues.

Regarding Nightblades not being wanted for trials, it's simply not true. The best AA time on EU server, 9m45s, included 5 Nightblades. NBs have the strongest execute spell: Impale. What you are describing is a general problem of stamina DD builds. Those aren't wanted in full trial runs because it's known that they underperform, regardless of class.

NBs also make damn fine tanks or healers. I play all 3 roles and am enjoying the NB class but I still have to battle with many abilities/passives that don't function properly quite often. Funnel Health's health return bugs out consistently, Dark Cloak rarely actually makes you invisible and is finicky as f***. Impale's animation bugs out and makes me unable to use any ability for a few seconds, keeping one arm up in the air for a while. There are many more but I'm growing tired of repeating myself as I've written countless bug reports on these issues and haven't gotten anyone from ZOS to even acknowledge those problems anywhere let alone an indication that fixes are on the way. It seems the focus has shifted to dyes instead.

Lyall84 wrote: »

Taiminator wrote: »

frwinters_ESO wrote: »

I have been noticing as well that im being pulled out of Shadowy disguise and/or dark cloak a lot more now. To the point i feel this ability is useless now. Was a staple to most of my builds but if i cant invis and attack whats the point.

Road ahead states they are still looking at nightblades. This class has had the most problems then any other class since launch. Some small changes have been made, but none of it to help make the class something. Nightblades are turned away from trials less they are running light armor with destro staves, etc etc and not everyone is a min/max type player and wants to play what they are comfortable with. ZOS wants to encourage grouping but we can not group when everyone sees this class as under-performing. Nightblades do not have a role to play in a group that makes us viable.

We need purpose. I want to know what that purpose is or what the vision was for this class and how is ZOS going to fufill that vision.

"We’re continuing to make adjustments to the Nightblade. We believe that what we’ve done so far has helped, but there may be more on the way"

By the sound of the Road Ahead letter it seems they are satisfied with their "fixes" so far, even though at least half of the known issues still persist 2 months after this thread was started. And many more issues have popped up since that aren't even listed as known issues.

Regarding Nightblades not being wanted for trials, it's simply not true. The best AA time on EU server, 9m45s, included 5 Nightblades. NBs have the strongest execute spell: Impale. What you are describing is a general problem of stamina DD builds. Those aren't wanted in full trial runs because it's known that they underperform, regardless of class.

NBs also make damn fine tanks or healers. I play all 3 roles and am enjoying the NB class but I still have to battle with many abilities/passives that don't function properly quite often. Funnel Health's health return bugs out consistently, Dark Cloak rarely actually makes you invisible and is finicky as f***. Impale's animation bugs out and makes me unable to use any ability for a few seconds, keeping one arm up in the air for a while. There are many more but I'm growing tired of repeating myself as I've written countless bug reports on these issues and haven't gotten anyone from ZOS to even acknowledge those problems anywhere let alone an indication that fixes are on the way. It seems the focus has shifted to dyes instead.

Veil of Blades... the only reason we at wanted for Trials.

There is a very specific build where you can get 850-950 single target DPS over long periods of time in Trials but it's litterally just 1 build. I'd like to start using Medium Armor and my Bow again, but at the current time, it's still not viable.

For me is plain demotivating to read the 'letter'. NBs have many buged skills, and they need to be fixed. No fixes in first part of 1.3 either. I am loosing motivation to play the game, and are looking into 'that other new RvR MMO' going into alpha next month...

That game is so outdated though. THeres no AAA mmorpg in the horizon except EQ really, and im not to interested in that.

We keep waiting and waiting for Nightblade buffs but nothing happens.

I have been forced to go light/destro becouse melee is just to weak and you die so damn much.

(NO its NOT stamina vs magicka. Our CLASS skills does weak ass dmg aswell)

Lyall84 wrote: »

Jarnhand wrote: »

For me is plain demotivating to read the 'letter'. NBs have many buged skills, and they need to be fixed. No fixes in first part of 1.3 either. I am loosing motivation to play the game, and are looking into 'that other new RvR MMO' going into alpha next month...

I have been keeping my eye on one went into alpha this month, going beta next month.

Do not think its the same one. I am refering to CU, alpha most likely August, beta sometime next year. BSC days next week with big news...

Nightblade is broken I know it, you know it and they know it, this is a fact so just accept it.


ASSASSINATION

• Deth Stroke – nice ulti for burst builds
• Assassin's Blade – I think that is the best finisher in the game, but Impale is bit buggy.
• Teleport Strike – nice gap closer, but 0.8 cast time is killing pace of combat.
• Blur – this is the only defensive skill that we have and it is bad.
• Mark Target – I hate this skill but it's ok.
• Haste – useless skill because of ability weaving / animation cancelling.

SHADOW

• Consuming Darkness – cool ulti.
• Shadow Cloak – I love the idea behind this skill, but it is buggy as hell.
• Veild Strike – nice skill bit buggy.
• Path of Darknes – it was useless, and it is useless.
• Aspect of Terror – it's ok but Manifestation of Terror morph doesn’t trigger all the time.
• Summon Shade – this skill is a buggy joke.

SIPHONING

• Soul Shred – another ulti.
• Strife – nice skill, love the HoT.
• Agony – it's ok but 1,5 sec cast time is killing me.
• Cripple – its ok.
• Siphoning Strikes – love this one, but the Siphoning Attacks morph visual effect is just awful, please change it so it looks similar to other two.
• Drain Power – it's nice aoe.

I'd love to see some fixes and changes in patch 1.3 but sadly there is none.

Lyall84 wrote: »

Jarnhand wrote: »

Lyall84 wrote: »

Jarnhand wrote: »

For me is plain demotivating to read the 'letter'. NBs have many buged skills, and they need to be fixed. No fixes in first part of 1.3 either. I am loosing motivation to play the game, and are looking into 'that other new RvR MMO' going into alpha next month...

I have been keeping my eye on one went into alpha this month, going beta next month.

Do not think its the same one. I am refering to CU, alpha most likely August, beta sometime next year. BSC days next week with big news...

Archage is what has caught me eye.

I played the beta and its horrible. If you like Korean games with subtitles and grind fests then its for you. If not steer clear!