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What do you think about new dye option on armours ?

  • Surinen
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    I like it
    I'm not saying don't have vivid colours - I'm saying have ones that could occur naturally and in quantities that would be viable naturally. Lapis has a very vibrant blue colour but wasn't used for painting every wall or door or robe because it was (and is) rare and very very expensive. Bright colours in clothing belonged really to the wealthy elite and everyone else wore stuff not far off potato sacks. The Elizabethans in England had a very strict code as to who could wear certain styles and fabrics according to their rank and title.

    http://www.elizabethanenglandlife.com/clothing-in-elizabethan-england.html
    please, keep hideous real world away from TES. one thing is to say that lesser nobility, clergy, peasantry, mob and rabble should not be able to wear rich clothing but the other is to support it with the real life historical analogies. while I do not doubt in alchemical prowess of the England's finest craftsmen, I see problems with translating it into the world where mythopoeia's magick dictates everything.

    all we need to do is to prepare for a circus arrival. clowns will parade and streets shall cause nausea; rainbows on the firmament, rainbows on the streets.

    on the other hand it will clearly separate people with affinity for properly constructed dress codes from the less fortunate individuals.
  • Mordria
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    I don't like it at all.
    Worst idea ever. I'm not looking forward to the hordes of rainbow bright warriors. It will be immersion breaking, lore breaking, pretty much every kind of breaking you can think of.

  • Rosveen
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    You can be feminine in heavy armor, it's all about the attitude! Which sadly doesn't convey very well in a video game. :(
    I'd love more costumes too. 20 levels later I'm still wearing the Sea Viper armor, but something more casual for an evening in town would be welcome. I don't think I want a potato sack, but some low level light armor would probably work, now that we finally can craft jerkins... I'll have to look into it.
  • Surinen
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    You can be feminine in heavy armor, it's all about the attitude! Which sadly doesn't convey very well in a video game. :(
    I'd love more costumes too. 20 levels later I'm still wearing the Sea Viper armor, but something more casual for an evening in town would be welcome. I don't think I want a potato sack, but some low level light armor would probably work, now that we finally can craft jerkins... I'll have to look into it.
    of course you can! there are breasts on the armour for a reason! I agree, casual but covering skin, no vulgarities!
    currently, Altmer nobles wear the same rags as ash-bloated filthmer. travesty!

    Edited by Surinen on July 9, 2014 1:51PM
  • Fairydragon3
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    bias poll, why nothing higher than "I like it" when there are like 4 that suggest it is a bad idea?

    This does fit the TES community, just not the TES lore fans. this will be as close as we get to being able to MOD armor, and creating our own textures and character skins

    I love this, can't wait for this to be implemented, and no I will not be wearing ridiculous colors like hot pink

  • AlexDougherty
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    I like it
    Mordria wrote: »
    Worst idea ever. I'm not looking forward to the hordes of rainbow bright warriors. It will be immersion breaking, lore breaking, pretty much every kind of breaking you can think of.

    Immersion breaking, Ok, I can go with that.
    Lore Breaking?, no I can't accept that, nowhere in the lore does it state that nobody ever had Armour with a different colour set.

    Enamelling and paints are generally accepted to be acceptable on armour, and were widely used in most cultures. Nothing in the Lore preventing their use here, in fact it would be bizzare if there was.
    Edited by AlexDougherty on July 9, 2014 1:59PM
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  • Rosveen
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    Surinen wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    You can be feminine in heavy armor, it's all about the attitude! Which sadly doesn't convey very well in a video game. :(
    I'd love more costumes too. 20 levels later I'm still wearing the Sea Viper armor, but something more casual for an evening in town would be welcome. I don't think I want a potato sack, but some low level light armor would probably work, now that we finally can craft jerkins... I'll have to look into it.
    of course you can! there are breasts on the armour for a reason! I agree, casual but covering skin, no vulgarities!
    currently, Altmer nobles wear the same rags as ash-bloated filthmer. travesty!
    Breasts do not make a woman. :) I wasn't talking about them at all, but I'm sure you know it.
  • SantieClaws
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    I have different idea.
    You know what I always wanted as a costume? Wanted them in Skyrim and want them now. The various dresses worn by women in shops and working in the taverns. If a tavern lass can have a nice dress why can't I - slayer of Molag Bal - have a nice frock for an evening of drunken dancing in Whiterun?
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  • Durann
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    I like it
    i like the idea, because i'm tired of walking around blue xD i'll dye my armor grey or black, with some brighter accents. no comic style colours, but if anyone wants to run around red, why not? :)
  • Syntse
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    They should put dyes but they shouldn't be like cartoon style.
    Rosveen wrote: »
    You can be feminine in heavy armor, it's all about the attitude! Which sadly doesn't convey very well in a video game. :(
    I'd love more costumes too. 20 levels later I'm still wearing the Sea Viper armor, but something more casual for an evening in town would be welcome. I don't think I want a potato sack, but some low level light armor would probably work, now that we finally can craft jerkins... I'll have to look into it.

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  • BBSooner
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    I like it
    Does nobody remember seeing the color palette from the ' road ahead ' update in june (?). We can choose from 27 different blues ( based on the screenshot), if you don't like that one ... pick another. We already have bright and shiny neon greens on armor, baby blue, pink, and luckily the game hasn't collapsed from the weight of those fashion faux pas. If the occasional power ranger is the price I have to pay to get this kind of customizability with colors then ill take it.
  • Surinen
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    I like it
    Rosveen wrote: »
    Breasts do not make a woman. :) I wasn't talking about them at all, but I'm sure you know it.
    technically genes and hormones do. not that I wanted to say that less gifted womer are not well, womer. it is just that armour designs in fantasy seems to accent their femininity; one of the most recognisable symbols: breasts.
    I have simply agreed with you by pointing out that heavy armours clearly display gender(and considering it is a rather 'special' thing to put breasts on the armour then also femininity in a certain, combat oriented form).

    Edited by Surinen on July 9, 2014 2:41PM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Surinen wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    Breasts do not make a woman. :) I wasn't talking about them at all, but I'm sure you know it.
    technically genes and hormones do. not that I wanted to say that less gifted womer are not well, womer. it is just that armour designs in fantasy seems to accent their femininity; one of the most recognisable symbols: breasts.
    I have simply agreed with you by pointing out that heavy armours clearly display gender.

    Womer??

    I would think the high and might Altmer would die before copying the Human terminology of women (even if adjusted for mer istead of men). :p
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  • SantieClaws
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    I have different idea.
    Gender and femininity are not the same thing :). Showing off my baps in armour that otherwise makes me look like a pile of scrap metal doesn't make me feel like a lass. A nice dress or two, or a robe that could be used as a costume, would do the trick though.
    Edited by SantieClaws on July 9, 2014 2:21PM
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  • Innocente
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    I don't care.
    Like everything else ZOS does, I believe it will be underdeveloped and buggy. Not up to 2014 MMO standards.
  • Surinen
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    I like it

    Womer??

    I would think the high and might Altmer would die before copying the Human terminology of women (even if adjusted for mer istead of men). :p
    well, yes, it is the most common way to address them. unfortunately there is no Altmer word for females. on the other hand, those were lsser races; humans who copied Altmer language so in a way man/woman might be of Altmer origins. for safety: mer/womer.
    Gender and femininity are not the same thing :). Showing off my baps in armour that otherwise makes me look like a pile of scrap metal doesn't make me feel like a lass. A nice dress or two, or a robe that could be used as a costume, would do the trick though.
    well, yes, you are right but breasts displayed on the armour are definately a sign of femininity - in TES at least, where females participate in battles.
    I'm all for dresses inclusion, modest dresses.
    Edited by Surinen on July 9, 2014 2:46PM
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    They should put dyes but they shouldn't be like cartoon style.
    While I'm not a fan of the bright neons colors that are a part the overall dye selection, too many options are better then no options. On the other hand, it will be alot easier to spot your hated enemy across a PvP battlefield if they're wearing hot pink or neon blue.
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  • Syntse
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    They should put dyes but they shouldn't be like cartoon style.
    Innocente wrote: »
    Like everything else ZOS does, I believe it will be underdeveloped and buggy. Not up to 2014 MMO standards.

    Despite this goes very OT I would be anxious to hear what are the 2014 MMO standards. Or 2014 game standards in general.

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  • AlexDougherty
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    I like it
    While I'm not a fan of the bright neons colors that are a part the overall dye selection, too many options are better then no options. On the other hand, it will be alot easier to spot your hated enemy across a PvP battlefield if they're wearing hot pink or neon blue.

    Sadly those bright Neon/Dayglow/Electric colours were available during earths middle ages, which indicates they are surprisingly easy to make. Thus they pretty much have to be in the dye system.

    As for being easy to spot, well that was actually part of the system, along with an emblem on your shield, enemies and allies could identify you, and act accordingly. No stealth in the medieval period.

    In PVP well, I imagine quite a few people will have similar colours, and on both sides of the battle. Apart from the truely bizzare colourings that is.
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  • Fi'yra
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    It is like korean MMO. It doesn't fit ESO soul.
    I was not looking forward to dyes when I saw that image released..

    I was kind of excited at the first picture shown, but that has really shown me that judging a book by it's cover can sometimes be correct..
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  • Morana
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    I like it
    A lot of people take pride in making their character stand out as individual and unique, and I'm looking forward to being able to truly have a personal style for my characters.

    It will be bad at first as everyone plays with the new dyes, but it should settle down. There will probably be a dozen players in black to each player in a bright colour.
  • Chuggernaut
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    I like it
    For everyone that thinks its too flashy, we are heroes and are supposed to stand out. Heck look at Golden Saint armor lol!
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  • Surinen
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    I like it
    For everyone that thinks its too flashy, we are heroes and are supposed to stand out. Heck look at Golden Saint armor lol!
    stand out with our actions, not necessarily with outfits. golden saints are just that: golden. now imagine bright pink heavy armour.

  • Brayton
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    I like it
    Who's to say that ESO lore would not include the invention of bright garish colours? The people that wear them could be shunned and become a new faction. It wasn't that long ago that neon colours first hit our own society. Any ideas for a name for the new faction? B)
  • Surinen
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    I like it
    Brayton wrote: »
    Who's to say that ESO lore would not include the invention of bright garish colours? The people that wear them could be shunned and become a new faction. It wasn't that long ago that neon colours first hit our own society. Any ideas for a name for the new faction? B)
    definately there are freaks who wear such horrible outfits. I simply do not want to see them.
    hm Unter-Lesserace , perfect name for a faction like this.

  • Chuggernaut
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    I like it
    Surinen wrote: »
    stand out with our actions, not necessarily with outfits. golden saints are just that: golden. now imagine bright pink heavy armour.

    Heroes throughout history and in fiction have been given flashy outfits. My point about Golden Saint is it looks ridiculous like something out of the Immortals movie, way over the top!

    Have they given a list of colors that will appear? From the screenshots provided, I only see yellow, white, black, red, blue, green, and gold. Will it be a full rainbow, and who will make dyes?
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  • OtarTheMad
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    Can't vote honestly because the stuff isn't in the game yet so I can't try it out for myself.
  • Surinen
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    I like it
    Heroes throughout history and in fiction have been given flashy outfits. My point about Golden Saint is it looks ridiculous like something out of the Immortals movie, way over the top!

    Have they given a list of colors that will appear? From the screenshots provided, I only see yellow, white, black, red, blue, green, and gold. Will it be a full rainbow, and who will make dyes?
    what history? what kind of fiction? I remember heroes completely different.
    golden saints look like golden statues, quite a common thing.

  • Arthur_Spoonfondle
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    It is like korean MMO. It doesn't fit ESO soul.
    I'm not against the principle of being able to colour armour but, the bright colours, I have so far seen, are just not in keeping with TESO heritage.

  • kieso
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    I like it
    I like it, adds options to make people stand out, yes there will be bright colors, but you don't have to use them. If others want to use them well that's their choice.
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