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Please readjust the insane VR content nerf
Denaia
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I think that the VR content was nerfed way too hard and should be readjusted. Please stop this 33 to 50% nerf and bring it back to a more normal 5 or 10% nerf. This is absolutely insane and totally ruining the game.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This morning in Rivenspire (VR 8 for me), after 2 or 3 fights I realized I didn't really need to hold down block anymore. After a couple more fights I realized I could pretty much ignore power attacks on basic mobs, only blocking ones that would knock me down (not because I would die, just cause they are annoying.)
Then after another couple fights I stopped worrying about standing in AoE effects.
I went and soloed a couple "skull and crossbones" areas that had been too hard for me before, only being stopped by by the Gargoyle one after getting him to half health. At least they are still enemies to be afraid of.
IMO, it was an over-nerf. But I can guarantee that stamina based, 2H, DW, S+B melee characters will have a much easier time of it, and can complete the Veteran levels easy peasy now.18 -
NerfEverything✭✭✭✭✭Yeah VR content is a joke now. You don't even need to slot skills. Light and heavy attacks with are enough to take down full packs. You don't even need to block or CC.
You can literally do the VR content without slotting skills now
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rusila22✭✭✭Guys guys they just nerf a little their HP and a little of their damage. Stop saying ohoh i can kill them ONLY with light and heavy attack if it's really true post a video without any skill on your Bar thank you ! (jizuz sometimes people are so mad
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dcincali✭✭✭✭I think that the VR content was nerfed way too hard and should be readjusted. Please stop this 33 to 50% nerf and bring it back to a more normal 5 or 10% nerf. This is absolutely insane and totally ruining the game.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
Pretty sure they had data to support the decision to nerf the content. After all, if you have been here since closed beta's you would see that a majority of the players stopped playing in vet areas.18 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Guys guys they just nerf a little their HP and a little of their damage. Stop saying ohoh i can kill them ONLY with light and heavy attack if it's really true post a video without any skill on your Bar thank you ! (jizuz sometimes people are so mad )
Pretty much this.
And it is obvious that to us , people that played and managed vr content before the nerf , the content will appear a lot easier , we could already do it anyway.
This was done for the players that could not deal with it."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
-Hanlon's razor18 -
Audigy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think that the VR content was nerfed way too hard and should be readjusted. Please stop this 33 to 50% nerf and bring it back to a more normal 5 or 10% nerf. This is absolutely insane and totally ruining the game.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
Pretty sure they had data to support the decision to nerf the content. After all, if you have been here since closed beta's you would see that a majority of the players stopped playing in vet areas.
They only moved to Craglorn, they did not stop
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crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Guys guys they just nerf a little their HP and a little of their damage. Stop saying ohoh i can kill them ONLY with light and heavy attack if it's really true post a video without any skill on your Bar thank you ! (jizuz sometimes people are so mad )
Pretty much this.
And it is obvious that to us , people that played and managed vr content before the nerf , the content will appear a lot easier , we could already do it anyway.
This was done for the players that could not deal with it.
this makes a lot of sense.
for those who already can manage difficult VR, you probably went through most of them already, just goto Craglorn or vet dungeons.
this is for those who couldn't before, now they have a chance to experience VR and learn gradually.
just let it go.12 -
Swampster✭✭✭Why do people who've already completed the VR content care anyway?Swampriel - Nightblade (Archer Build) - Ebonheart Pact - Veteran
Swampess - DragonKnight - Eboheart Pact - Lowbie Faceroller25 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This nerf ruined the game for me, personally. The allure of vet zones was that I had to switch my skills around to give some more survivability/sustain so the real challenge of vet content was making a good build. Now you can basically go full on DPS and faceroll it no problem. I'm very disheartened with the Dev team. They honestly seem to be intentionally sinking their game. Ruin PVE content and introduce crazy lag problems for PVP that persist for weeks now. Completely horrendous.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points19 -
Denaia✭✭✭✭Why do people who've already completed the VR content care anyway?
I am still VR 6 and I was moderatly struggling through VR content, that's why I am all for a slight nerf of 5 to 15% which I would deem 'more appropiate'. But 33% to 50% is too much, it makes the game extremely boring and it turns veteran rank into another 1-50 of which the difficulty was so low that it wasn't enjoyable.13 -
rekina✭✭✭These guys are so proud of themselves for being able to kills npcs in their naked. Npcs are so challenge enough that they think they are great skilled gamers... and now they are mad because everyone will get npc slayers titles. Someone is even gunna make a video of it!! It will be named "Elder Scrolls Online skilled Dragonknight 1vs3 Solo PvE"7
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crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do people who've already completed the VR content care anyway?
I am still VR 6 and I was moderatly struggling through VR content, that's why I am all for a slight nerf of 5 to 15% which I would deem 'more appropiate'. But 33% to 50% is too much, it makes the game extremely boring and it turns veteran rank into another 1-50 of which the difficulty was so low that it wasn't enjoyable.
i think report is 25-30%, not 33-50%.4 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do people who've already completed the VR content care anyway?
Because they had to walk up the hill backwards, on one leg, in a pink tutu, while it was snowing, with a blindfold on, with grandma on their shoulders, so everyone has to do it that way, or their willys will shrink.Edited by Guppet on July 7, 2014 5:09PM30 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭I'm curious. Has this suggested 25-33% reduction affected the group dungeon content as well?2 -
wrlifeboil✭✭✭✭✭I think that the VR content was nerfed way too hard and should be readjusted. Please stop this 33 to 50% nerf and bring it back to a more normal 5 or 10% nerf. This is absolutely insane and totally ruining the game.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
Pretty sure they had data to support the decision to nerf the content. After all, if you have been here since closed beta's you would see that a majority of the players stopped playing in vet areas.
They only moved to Craglorn, they did not stop
Most of them don't have the Cadwell's Gold quest achievement and still they complain about VR zone nerfs. Too funny.
The funniest are from VR12s who were carried in Craglorn by their guilds and only now are going back into VR zones to get Cadwell's Silver and Gold.7 -
Shunravi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why do people who've already completed the VR content care anyway?
1. Competative nature
2. It required the use of the games combat mechanics. We already had the problem with inexperienced v12s who had grinded the level without learning the mechanics.
3. Players like me, who did the content with stamina melee, or other 'inferior' builds felt balancing was in order, certainly, not a nerf.
4. This sets a bad precident for future content, as a good number left other titles for being to easy, and now this is following the same path.
5. Making it easier lessens the prestiege of certain accomplishments, again competative nature. but like with the v12 thing, the title becomes essentially worthless.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to have fun in the game, and it will be nice to see more in the vet zones, but zeni seems to be going a bit hard and fast with its changes. (BE being a good example, the cost increase, or the regen hit, not both.)
Edit: 6. A good many feel that this did not touch in one of the biggest issues; interesting content. Why help and build sympathy for another alliance if one of the big endgame draws is bashing each other's faces in? It ruins the spirit of the alliance war.Edited by Shunravi on July 7, 2014 8:31PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!9 -
MeowGinger✭✭✭It's a 25-30% nerf for damage (using lower level armor than my own -- so even less mitigation) and a 16-17% nerf for health. Not 30-50%.Edited by MeowGinger on July 7, 2014 5:11PM0
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Denaia✭✭✭✭MeowGinger wrote: »It's a 25-30% nerf for damage (using lower level armor than my own -- so even less mitigation) and a 16-17% nerf for health. Not 30-50%.
And where does these numbers come from? Various numbers get thrown around (such a shame Zenimax doesn't respond to my 'give us some numbers' questions)3 -
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✭NerfEverything wrote: »Yeah VR content is a joke now. You don't even need to slot skills. Light and heavy attacks with are enough to take down full packs. You don't even need to block or CC.
You can literally do the VR content without slotting skills now
Video or it didn't happen.5 -
Adrastes✭✭✭I think that the VR content was nerfed way too hard and should be readjusted. Please stop this 33 to 50% nerf and bring it back to a more normal 5 or 10% nerf. This is absolutely insane and totally ruining the game.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
No
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liquid_wolf✭✭✭✭I am VR 2 and finishing up Coldharbor. I imagine I'll be at VR3 by the time i hit the first VR area.
I'll decide if it is too hard or easy sometime in the next week or so.0 -
MeowGinger✭✭✭MeowGinger wrote: »It's a 25-30% nerf for damage (using lower level armor than my own -- so even less mitigation) and a 16-17% nerf for health. Not 30-50%.
And where does these numbers come from? Various numbers get thrown around (such a shame Zenimax doesn't respond to my 'give us some numbers' questions)
They're actually my own numbers, based on my own before and after screenshots. I'm going to try another run with my current armor and see how that goes for damage, then I'll upload them somewhere if people want.3 -
Lunerdog✭✭✭✭✭I think that the VR content was nerfed way too hard and should be readjusted. Please stop this 33 to 50% nerf and bring it back to a more normal 5 or 10% nerf. This is absolutely insane and totally ruining the game.
What is worst is that no one from zenimax has responded ever since we found out how hard the nerf was. I was always hopeful the game would get well at some point, but this is making me lose faith very very quickly. I am just sick and tired of the fact that we get 1.no information 2.lies (there would just be a readjustment that would still keep the game challenging) 3.no responses to complaints 4.it takes WAY too long to fix. And yes about point 4 I understand it's hard, but there are way too many problems that get fixed way too slowly and most likely the vr content problems we have now will never be fixed either.
Please please do something about it, I am just sick and tired of the fact that the wrong decisions are made constantly.
NO
Make the game harder for yourself if that's how you like to play.
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Laura✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do people who've already completed the VR content care anyway?
I like to level alts.
Not any more - I don't have to avoid red, block, interrupt, or anything anymore. I can literally level naked everyone in the guild has been laughing at how unbelievably stupid and easy it is now.
The problem is they didn't touch the issue that most people quit over, sure the droolcups can level now (but they will quit again when they get to end game) but all my friends who quit for all the real issues veteran content and the game had they are laughing at this. The only saving grace this game really had for them and many people is that it actually made you think and use strategy.
they didn't fix the rewards and itemization
its still grindy (moreso actually)
weapon builds still suck (would have fixed most of the issues)
an so much more.
The problem most people have is that this is a blanket fix. They didn't touch the actual problems that make you want to keep chucking into those ranks. If your character grew more in power and weapon builds were brought in line with sorc, dk, and stave builds it wouldn't have been an issue. It is yet another ZoS lazy butchering of a problem instead of actually fixing it.
You will all see when you are done leveling.... unless they make dungeons and raids soloable and at this point I wouldn't put it past them
seriously is it really fun to anyone to just not even think while you play? do some of you guys die in game and think its the games fault and not yours?22