Are devs ever going to nerf Bolt Escape?
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This skill is ridiculously overpowred. What this skill does is essentially giving you no risk from committing yourself into the enemy, or enemies even. 9 times out of 10 you can just walk away from enemies who struggle enough to catch/stun you, and you have like 10% or less chance to actually die when you make a mistake.
Risk is very important concept in pvp. We do not have much risk for dying in pvp already as we neither drop our gears nor losing xp upon death. Actual existing penalty for death is that you have to walk back to where you died(if it were needed). Sorcerers don't even have to take that tiny risk - they are riskless.
So again, if I'm missing something, for instance devs already said they will nerf Bolt Escape and I missed it, please let me know. If this skill is working as intended and no plan to change it at all, then I'll start grinding a Sorcerer today.
Edited by rekina on July 4, 2014 11:43PM Risk is very important concept in pvp. We do not have much risk for dying in pvp already as we neither drop our gears nor losing xp upon death. Actual existing penalty for death is that you have to walk back to where you died(if it were needed). Sorcerers don't even have to take that tiny risk - they are riskless.
So again, if I'm missing something, for instance devs already said they will nerf Bolt Escape and I missed it, please let me know. If this skill is working as intended and no plan to change it at all, then I'll start grinding a Sorcerer today.
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They've nerfed it already. If you use bolt escape, it costs 50% more magicka for 4 seconds afterwards.Edited by jamespetchonka821b14_ESO on July 4, 2014 11:46PM1
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hi, you must be new here, BE was nerfed, twice, and is also currently bugged making the nerf worse.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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✭It's still pretty ridiculous in pvp but it was already nerfed.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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rekina✭✭✭I dont care if it were already nerfed, it is still ridiculous. I've seen these blink Sorcerers taking advantage of Bolt Escape and doing pvp without risk. Don't tell me it is nerfed already because that argument is invalid. It is not nerfed enough until it actually becomes reasonable skill.Edited by rekina on July 5, 2014 12:16AM6
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✭I dont care if it were already nerfed, it is still ridiculous. I've seen these blink Sorcerers taking advantage of Bolt Escape and doing pvp without risk. Don't tell me it is nerfed already because that argument is invalid. It is not nerfed enough until it actually becomes reasonable skill.
w/o risk? how? two BE and out of magicka is not a "risk"?
everybody see everybody spamming some skills, you didn't see them barking for nerf everything.5 -
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✭I'm so tired of hearing cries of NERF. PvP costs nothing. You don't drop armor or coin. You can't be looted. There's no repair cost.
But every time a class skill gets nerfed it affects PvE balance.I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone equally !4 -
rekina✭✭✭w/o risk? how? two BE and out of magicka is not a "risk"?
everybody see everybody spamming some skills, you didn't see them barking for nerf everything.
None of them are non-target teleport that makes you blink away in a second. Give nightblades non-target Teleport Strike then tell me.
Think before you bark.4 -
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✭I heard enough of these crap from numerous people, get over it, L2P, you can keep barking all you want, and you will get nothing.3 -
Kulthax✭✭✭I dont care if it were already nerfed, it is still ridiculous. I've seen these blink Sorcerers taking advantage of Bolt Escape and doing pvp without risk. Don't tell me it is nerfed already because that argument is invalid. It is not nerfed enough until it actually becomes reasonable skill.
Instead of complaining without backing up your complaint, try adding your thoughts as to what would make the skill reasonable and balanced. Stating that it is overpowered in its use in PvP means nothing to a vast majority of people. It is your opinion and as such if you want to sway the masses provide mature, logical thoughts in your post as to why you believe it should be changed again.
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The_Drexill✭✭✭✭Nightblades and Vampires escape way, way more often than anyone with Bolt Escape.Brandizzle - NB
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rekina✭✭✭The_Drexill wrote: »Nightblades and Vampires escape way, way more often than anyone with Bolt Escape.
None of them are instant get-away skills, and currently stealth is bugged that you can't rely on. You can at least catch up mist form as it's just merely running without taking too much damage. If many people find this skill is problematic then go ahead, nerf it and make it reasonable skill. I'm all for balancing, I'm not some idiots who defend their classes and against all nerfs no matter what.3 -
zScars✭✭✭i missed the part or maybe i skimed through it, but what do you want nerfed w/ b.e.Founder of Incognito Merchants. Join us- head to our thread for more info. forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/121613/official-trading-incognito-merchants#latest0
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✭✭✭It was being spammed bad the first month or 2of release, nowadays: no. its been nerfed enough. lets focus on things that actually need to be looked at0 -
Liquid_Time✭✭✭✭✭Drop this subject already. BE is fine. I have no trouble with it a long with many others.. if you are still having trouble then I would consider looking at how you combat said BE.
Start asking for help rather then assume it is the skill itself that is the issue. Might make PvP a bit easier for you..¸.•¨)
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Mud_Puppy✭✭✭Sorcs have none of the sustain other classes have. That's why we have BE, Our only heals are an ult and a exchange. No sustain. There are reasons. My main is a sorc and don't even use BE in pvp. Not for any other reasons besides it doesn't fit my build. DKs have the pull. Sorcs have the Bolt, blades have the stealth, templars have... well they're templars.
Point being every class has that something unique akin to the other classes./kill0 -
azinodSoul ShrivenI play a VR7 Nightblade, do not comment a lot on the forum but always spend sometime checking the latest posts and patch notes.
I think BE received deserved nerfs, and it is current fine as it is. Like anything in the game, you need to know what you are doing to use it correctly, or you will get yourself screwed.
Also, you are thinking exclusively about pvp. If they nerf BE more than it has already been, it will be totally worthless for PvE, and not even a good choice for PvP. Remeber it is a top tier skill, IT HAS TO BE GOOD for something, after all.
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✭Is the OP a time traveler, posting from last April?Snit AD Sorc
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✭You have yet to discover camps eh? No worries friend, there are zero penalties for dying in pvp for any class. A sorc running away is just wasting his own time.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭✭✭✭✭I dont care if it were already nerfed, it is still ridiculous. I've seen these blink Sorcerers taking advantage of Bolt Escape and doing pvp without risk. Don't tell me it is nerfed already because that argument is invalid. It is not nerfed enough until it actually becomes reasonable skill.
Read: All arguments are invalid until they give me what i want!
I knew this would start when ZOS agreed to blanketly nerf the entire veteran content because some people refuse to change their abilities to suit the situation and can't be bothered to block or roll dodge.
There are plenty of counters to this, and it is incredibly easy to lose mana doing any significant damage enough to not have enough to get far with bolt escape.
ANY class has the ability to get gank kills. If there are others around a Sorcerer that runs himself out of mana getting away from one player is sure to die to the next.0 -
dracobains_ESO✭✭✭The last nerf was warranted but I do not think it needs to be nerfed any further. I think Sorcs should have a decent possibility to escape. It can be a powerful ability but in no way imbalances pvp.IRONCLAD of Ebonheart Pact
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