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Nightblade Update
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Lyall84✭✭✭✭I wrote the same thing here. Its more broken then ever. Every time a dot crits on enemy, it breaks stealth. Blood craze, veil of blades, you name it. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1021343/#Comment_1021343
Not sure why it is different for me. But none of my damage over time effects break Cloak after this last patch. Carve, Veil of Blades, Crippling Grasp, etc. You should try it again before re-posting an older comment saying that it is still broken. Because if it is fixed, you are only creating confusion for the developers.1 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭Sadly Shadow Cloak and its morphs as far as I know is broken, and close to useless. Not even sloted on my main bar.
There are MANY NB skills that are either plain broken or buged. Zenimax told us NBs should get fixed, but this is going very slowly, and even some patches breaking even more stuff.
Please Zenimax hurry it up, before even more people just plain give up...I am sure a lot of people are not too happy with broken skills, cheater/exploiters all over the game (shrine porting in Cyrodiil etc) and Zenimax do nothing at all to stop them, and horrible FPS lags, makeing Cyrodiil partly unplayable...
They have fixed at least the damage over time breaking the effects. The "as far as I know" and then stating that it is not even slotted on your bar. You need to test the ability before posting that stuff is still broken, especially when people are saying that it is fixed.
There are still times, mainly in pvp, that it does seem to break for no apparent reason, but I think that has something to do with how the ability "stuns" the opponents according to the combat logs, and if a target has stun immunity it breaks the effect. That is just my take on it though.0 -
CerbinSoul ShrivenDamage over time is still breaking the effect of Shadwy Disguise.
Tested with Crippling Grasp.
So no, they have not fixed it...2 -
Selodaoc✭✭✭I wrote the same thing here. Its more broken then ever. Every time a dot crits on enemy, it breaks stealth. Blood craze, veil of blades, you name it. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1021343/#Comment_1021343
Not sure why it is different for me. But none of my damage over time effects break Cloak after this last patch. Carve, Veil of Blades, Crippling Grasp, etc. You should try it again before re-posting an older comment saying that it is still broken. Because if it is fixed, you are only creating confusion for the developers.
Its breaking me out of stealth mroe then ever after patch. Veil didnt break stealth before patch, but does after patch.2 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭I wrote the same thing here. Its more broken then ever. Every time a dot crits on enemy, it breaks stealth. Blood craze, veil of blades, you name it. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1021343/#Comment_1021343
Not sure why it is different for me. But none of my damage over time effects break Cloak after this last patch. Carve, Veil of Blades, Crippling Grasp, etc. You should try it again before re-posting an older comment saying that it is still broken. Because if it is fixed, you are only creating confusion for the developers.
Its breaking me out of stealth mroe then ever after patch. Veil didnt break stealth before patch, but does after patch.
Having a hard time supporting you on this one. I can pop Veil of Blades all day long and sit invisible for the full 2.9 seconds while it is ticking. Did it 6 times, did not break stealth once. Prior to the patch it would break on the first tick. To me it seems fixed. Still have to do more testing with Crippling Grasp.
Edit: Even when it criticals, does not break my invisibility.Edited by Lyall84 on July 2, 2014 2:36AM1 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭
Going to do some more testing with Crippling Grasp. So far Veil of Blades, Carve, Venom Arrow all work, as in don't break the invisibility.
Will update in a bit.
Confirmed: Crippling Grasp still breaks the invisibility. Tried 5 times, broke on first tick each time.
Still have yet to make Veil of Blades, Carve, or Venom Arrow fail. Not spending the gold to morph Teleport Strike to test Lotus Fan, so on your own for that one.Edited by Lyall84 on July 2, 2014 4:40AM4 -
Ah the respec cost... I thought with so many skills and mechanism affected in the last patch we would get a free respec... Silly me.1 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭Might make a vid with Blood craze and Veil later
Umm. Not sure what happened with last night's hot fix, but I went to try Veil again this morning just to make sure it was fixed, and I was not seeing things, but now Veil, and carve are both popping cloak.
So not sure what happened, but it was fixed until they patched last night.Edited by Lyall84 on July 2, 2014 9:39PM1 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭redferne.requiemneb18_ESO wrote: »Ah the respec cost... I thought with so many skills and mechanism affected in the last patch we would get a free respec... Silly me.
I know...it is 23.7k for me to reset skills. Makes it too costly to reset just to test things.0 -
Jaxom✭✭✭✭
Going to do some more testing with Crippling Grasp. So far Veil of Blades, Carve, Venom Arrow all work, as in don't break the invisibility.
Will update in a bit.
Confirmed: Crippling Grasp still breaks the invisibility. Tried 5 times, broke on first tick each time.
Still have yet to make Veil of Blades, Carve, or Venom Arrow fail. Not spending the gold to morph Teleport Strike to test Lotus Fan, so on your own for that one.
Thanks for the test @Lyall84 . I use Crippling Grasp alot in PvP so I may just pull it off my bar for the time being.0 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭
Going to do some more testing with Crippling Grasp. So far Veil of Blades, Carve, Venom Arrow all work, as in don't break the invisibility.
Will update in a bit.
Confirmed: Crippling Grasp still breaks the invisibility. Tried 5 times, broke on first tick each time.
Still have yet to make Veil of Blades, Carve, or Venom Arrow fail. Not spending the gold to morph Teleport Strike to test Lotus Fan, so on your own for that one.
Thanks for the test @Lyall84 . I use Crippling Grasp alot in PvP so I may just pull it off my bar for the time being.
I think they reverted something with the FPS hit fix, because now stuff that was working correctly is broken again.3 -
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✭anyone else finding stealth completely broken after patch!?Edited by Grim13 on July 2, 2014 11:34PM0 -
Selodaoc✭✭✭Might make a vid with Blood craze and Veil later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6tG_aLSXfQ&feature=youtu.be 4 -
Jaxom✭✭✭✭Might make a vid with Blood craze and Veil laterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6tG_aLSXfQ&feature=youtu.be
Pretty much sums up my experience.1 -
zhevon✭✭✭✭
I know I am wrong, but I am not convinced it has ever regularly worked. It was broken in a "good" way during beta; and it was fixed at release or soon after. I have found it very inconsistent; it works and sometimes it doesn't work with no rhymn or reason.anyone else finding stealth completely broken after patch!?
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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My main is a nightblade. I have played the class as a DW/medium assassin ever since i crafted myself a medium armor set at level 4, and i never had any problem with any of the content i encountered. That is where i draw my conclusions from.
You guys would do well to take the offered advice which is based on my everyday gameplay - not some 'looking at numbers' - instead of patting each other on the back how bad you have it and ridiculing those who are trying to help you.
Not that I don't believe you, but please post the character name and level ...
I could post that I have a VR 12 Templar, and can 1 shot anything ... but that doesn't make it true.
I'm not exactly sure how this will help you believe what i wrote but here you go: Character name is Sharee, as you might have guessed. Level is vet6. Redguard nightblade. EU server. Bloodthorn campaign.0 -
OkieDokie✭✭✭
I'm not exactly sure how this will help you believe what i wrote but here you go: Character name is Sharee, as you might have guessed. Level is vet6. Redguard nightblade. EU server. Bloodthorn campaign.
I think the problem is not that you can't do the content. You actually can play as you want. However, it is an inferior performance compared to other classes. Just that.
I find most of the content pretty easy, I can solo everything (including public dungeons), but I'm aware that my NB don't perform in the same level as a DK for example.
Anyway, still no devs reply, no dialogue...yeah, we'll not get things done apparently.Edited by OkieDokie on July 4, 2014 4:49AMPeople keep saying they heard of a friend of friend of friend of their neighbors that plays a NB and can catch up with dks and sorcs and this guy just never shows up. He would be a rock star if he existed.2 -
Grim13✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cloak is broken in PvE. I'm not entirely sure what the issue is... but since the last couple patches, NPCs see you no matter whether you're cloaked or not. It's also breaking early, like it does in PvP.2 -
Braddass✭✭✭If they are not going to make NB on par with the other classes, they need to just acknowledge it so everyone will quit hoping for something good every patch (and having their hopes dashed by seeing things get worse). Then, let us switch our NB for one of the other classes and be done with it.Edited by Braddass on July 5, 2014 12:49AM1
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Erlindur✭✭✭Cloak is broken in PvE. I'm not entirely sure what the issue is... but since the last couple patches, NPCs see you no matter whether you're cloaked or not. It's also breaking early, like it does in PvP.
I had a lengthy encounter with a v10 Gargoyle yesterday that can be an easy recreation of the problem. The routine is simple, bow, throw a few light shots on the mob till it comes near you, cloak and run away to reposition, repeat. Now and then you have to break from cc but the whole routine costs almost no stamina and minimum magika. You can do that for a long time.
Well, half of the time, cloak doesn't work. The first cloak does make you invisible but the mob sees you and comes after you. Throwing a second cloak seems to work as intended. The bug looked consistent in that case.
It surely does look like a mob cc break with duration and a cool-down.1 -
Selodaoc✭✭✭Ye, mobs goes into "stunned" state on your first stealth. They break that, thus seeing you.
The second time you stealth, their either on cooldown our out of stamina.
Although there are alot of mobs that sees through stealth anyways.0 -
Developers need to play the Nightblade class(bow/dw) after playing any of the other classes to see how fundamentally weak the class is in sustained multiple target combat.They wear leather...not heavy armor. They have little cc. Their skills take too long to execute .The are weak in dps...yet have to complete the same quests as Dk's or Sorc's.The class is built around stealth..sudden bursts...not raw power.Yet they are expected to do the quests that Dk's and Sorc's blow through. Heck my 19 Templar went out the other day in Cyrodiil and got far far more ava kills that my VR 1 bow Nigtblade ever dreamed of.
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to play my VR1 NB. Getting my a% * handed to me in the final 50 level confrontation with Molag Bahl was beyond demotivating. I dread stand up sustained fights against multiple enemies.This is not how the class was designed.....yet that is the hoop the player is expected to jump through in order to continue the game.5 -
I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem:
I like my 2-Handed weapons as a Nightblade, and my standard MO for entering combat is to lead with 'Siphon Soul' from a distance, and then charge in with "Critical Rush." I've noticed recently that I am not getting the healing effect from the initial use of "Siphon Soul." I think it has something to do with your character having to be in the same general area as you were when you activated 'Siphon Soul' when the returning blood-spout animation returns. Currently when I use it, I see the returning blood-spout animation zip right past me as I charge in with 'Critical Rush' and the healing fails to proc.
If this an intended mechanic. could you please make it more clear that you cannot move from the spot of activation until the animation completes in order to gain the healing aspect of the ability.
If this is not an intended mechanic, could you please add it to the list of things that need to be fixed about Nightblades.
ThanksEdited by thewisguyub17_ESO on July 5, 2014 9:32PM1
