Love the delete character limit, brilliant!

MalavarTCOne · June 2014

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

Ser Lobo · June 2014

I expected sarcasm. Pleasantly surprised.

Liquid_Time · June 2014

It is a very clever fix. +1

steveb16_ESO46 · June 2014

This fix was suggested months ago by me among others. It was an obvious first step to dealing with bots.

david271749 · June 2014

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

This fix was suggested months ago by me among others. It was an obvious first step to dealing with bots.

Thanks, Steve. What's next? World hunger?

Sakiri · June 2014

I haven't had mail spam in days.

It comes in spurts. A delete limit does nothing really.

cisadanepajsuxrwb17_ESO · June 2014

Ok whats goin on here? I still have a mail spam as per yesterday

Sakiri · June 2014

cisadanepajsuxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ok whats goin on here? I still have a mail spam as per yesterday

You can only delete 3 characters a day.

*waves hands* wooooo....

Sharee · June 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

A delete limit does nothing really.

It prevents the bot accounts from farming quests that award money on completion but require no mob kills.

Like the introduction quest in Hollow city(tour of the city). There used to be an endless stream of level 3 bots - they were created, ported to coldharbor (one acted as anchor for the 'travel to friend' function), did the intro quest, banked the ~300 gold reward, and were deleted, created again, repeat, over and over.

ZOS applied a bandaid to the quest a while ago (it no longer has a money reward), but the new change fixes this exploiting behavior globally.

Sakiri · June 2014

Theyll just get more accounts.....

Sharee · June 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

Theyll just get more accounts.....

There is a difference between being able to run a quest on one account 1000 times, and getting 1000 accounts to run the quest once on each.

pong · June 2014

they should've made it 1 delete per 24hrs

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

I've had no mail spam for many, many weeks. It's pity this is too late to prevent the mass abuse by level 2s that happened weeks and months ago when level 2s by the thousands were being created and deleted per day to farm simple quests for gold using [snip] and tele-bots.
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Sakiri · June 2014

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Not really.

Theyre the professionals at making rmt work.

AngryNord · June 2014

Funny how the most efficient anti-bot measures take place after the majority of botters have left for Wildstar...

pong · June 2014

@angry then let them leave, its good for us

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

I've had no mail spam for many, many weeks. It's pity this is too late to prevent the mass abuse by level 2s that happened weeks and months ago when level 2s by the thousands were being created and deleted per day to farm simple quests for gold using [snip] and tele-bots.

Frankly, I haven't even seen any bots in a while, not even in Coldharbour (which seems pretty dead, NA side). No problem grabbing nodes there. The closest I've seen since a bot fest in a lowbie public dungeon a month or so ago, was some multiboxer farming stuff in Reaper's March (and as far as I know, multiboxing is allowed? He wasn't interfering with anyone, anyway; if anything, he was clearing the way for others questing, lol.) Never saw heads sticking up out of the ground, unless they're better at tunneling now.

Last mail spam was last week, and was infrequent anyway.

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Sharee · June 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

Not really.

Theyre the professionals at making rmt work.

That has nothing to do with them being professionals. It has to do with math. If you cannot see the difference, ill explain:

- If you can do a 300g quest 1000 times per account, then you make 300.000g per account.

- If you can do a 300g quest once per account, then you make 300g per account.

This change cut the RMT profits (from this particular activity) by a factor of 1000, regardless of how many accounts they have.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

I've had no mail spam for many, many weeks. It's pity this is too late to prevent the mass abuse by level 2s that happened weeks and months ago when level 2s by the thousands were being created and deleted per day to farm simple quests for gold using [snip] and tele-bots.

Frankly, I haven't even seen any bots in a while, not even in Coldharbour (which seems pretty dead, NA side). No problem grabbing nodes there. The closest I've seen since a bot fest in a lowbie public dungeon a month or so ago, was some multiboxer farming stuff in Reaper's March (and as far as I know, multiboxing is allowed? He wasn't interfering with anyone, anyway; if anything, he was clearing the way for others questing, lol.) Never saw heads sticking up out of the ground, unless they're better at tunneling now.

Last mail spam was last week, and was infrequent anyway.

Yeah, I've only seen 'legit' players botting for many days, either XP trains or else those using bots in places like Bal Foyen.

I've seen a few obvious RMT mules at banks, tried to figure who was interacting with them but it's pretty impossible in crowded areas to see that.

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steveb16_ESO46 · June 2014

david271749 wrote: »

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

This fix was suggested months ago by me among others. It was an obvious first step to dealing with bots.

Thanks, Steve. What's next? World hunger?

Well, that doesn't quite have the same quite obvious solution but i'll get back to you.

Seriously though - that botters were using use once and throw away bots was known from the beginning. Restricting the ability to create infinite numbers of characters was not rocket science.

The point is - it's not clever. It was something that could have been done months previously.

PBpsy · June 2014

I haven't had any spam in more than 2 weeks and it was always rare for me. I do think it was a nice move though.

Ojustaboo · June 2014

david271749 wrote: »

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

This fix was suggested months ago by me among others. It was an obvious first step to dealing with bots.

Thanks, Steve. What's next? World hunger?

hehe, he has a valid point though this would have been a very very simple thing to implement and was suggested by many.

While I'm glad it's been done, they should have made it a priority 3 months ago when the bots were in their heyday.

Edit: maybe if I'd had read the whole thread, I wouldn't be repeating things

Aeradon · June 2014

This obviously should've shipped with the game.

SilentFox22 · June 2014

Better late than never. Nothing to say bots won't attempt to return in large numbers again when expansions and the such eventually are released.

Also, as regular players with 8 character slots, who really needs to delete three times a day? Increasing the limit to 3 times a week still wouldn't bother us, but would further deny bots. I'd be cool with that. I'd even be okay with a limit of 3 deletes a month. And if you really need to delete more than 3 times a month, you're a milk-drinker (:D) and should be able to contact a gm or customer support - which would allow them to confirm that you are indeed not a bot.

Misty · June 2014

Not for me. I play my characters for a day and then start with new one's the next day.

Saphie · July 2014

Rhass wrote: »

Better late than never. Nothing to say bots won't attempt to return in large numbers again when expansions and the such eventually are released.

Also, as regular players with 8 character slots, who really needs to delete three times a day? Increasing the limit to 3 times a week still wouldn't bother us, but would further deny bots. I'd be cool with that. I'd even be okay with a limit of 3 deletes a month. And if you really need to delete more than 3 times a month, you're a milk-drinker (:D) and should be able to contact a gm or customer support - which would allow them to confirm that you are indeed not a bot.

I was doing far more deletes than that in a day just because I enjoy playing with character creators. I delete a character quite a few times before I end up making one I actually want to play with due to the fact that lighting in the character creation is teribad.

Catches_the_Sun · July 2014

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

Not only that, but I haven't seen a "town-questing" bot in forever.

poodlemasterb16_ESO · July 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

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There is a difference between being able to run a quest on one account 1000 times, and getting 1000 accounts to run the quest once on each.</div>
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Not really.

Theyre the professionals at making rmt work.

You don't seem to get that HTML is not gonna fly inside the comments. To the point, after quite a few threads, that I wonder what you think you are up too.

I use it for web sites, but what do I know?

DeLindsay · July 2014

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

Sarcasm or not, yeah I can't recall getting a single gold selling spam mail for some time now.

hk11 · July 2014

DeLindsay wrote: »

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

Sarcasm or not, yeah I can't recall getting a single gold selling spam mail for some time now.

There haven't been many bots either. Like in other games, they tend to leave when the market dries up. You don't need a lot of gold in eso to begin with, and it's not worth buying a ton of accounts when there isn't a lot of demand.

circilion · July 2014

MalavarTCOne wrote: »

This has single handedly stopped 99% of mail spam! Very clever and I love it

Solid Post man, and insightful. when I opened this up I was expecting a ZoS rant. I didn't even get the opposite, a white knight thoughtless defence. Just a Solid comment on a job well done by ZoS.

you have restored my faith in these forums!!...

Although its not like I needed any faith in these forums to keep coming back here to enjoy them! =D