After Level 15 Do You Use Second Weapon & Skills Set Or Stick With Just Your First Set?

RatsnevE · July 2014

I haven't reached 15 yet but wonder about this because my second character is playing with a bow but gets into melee scrapes sometimes. However I feel like I've taken more care formulating what I want to do rather then following someone else's build and so far this second try is working much better. Very hard to tell because other factors may be playing out since my first character such as a different alliance and one or two patches and who knows how many hot fixes that might be making my game play better? I won't be voting here for the time being.

ebondeath · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

I stick with my DW set up. I have a second bar set up for bow, but I very rarely use it and I'm terrible with it.

RatsnevE · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Some insightful info so far including a possible exploit depending on how you look at things.

If I had limited the question to levels 1 through 50 I don't think the discussion would be as much or as interesting.

If I had limited the poll to the one character you had the most 'fun' playing would the results be any different?

Might be very interesting to learn if _anyone_ really into Cyrodiil and PvP uses only one weapon set and one bar of skills? Seems very limiting and highly unlikely--easy to play and easy to die.

ebondeath · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

RatsnevE wrote: »

When I try to make an 'edit' it refuses saying "category required". What is that all about? Some threads it doesn't say this at all and edits are successful. I don't think it is because this is a poll question either...but who knows?

Polls can't be edited.

RatsnevE · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

ebondeath wrote: »

I stick with my DW set up. I have a second bar set up for bow, but I very rarely use it and I'm terrible with it.

Interesting... So you don't feel disadvantaged using only one bar of skills? And you don't feel a need to kite with the likes of Molag Bal?

With your DW do you pull or teleport attacks? Or both?

MasterSpatula · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

My DK has 1H&S on both bars, but one is slotted with DPS abilities for solo play while the other is slotted with tank abilities for group play.

My Sorc has two different kinds of Destrostaff. 1 bar has fire staff and is more for single-target stuff. The other uses lightning staff and has more AoE abilities.

My Templar has a Destro bar and a Resto bar.

If I played my NB much, I would have a bow bar and a DW bar.

ebondeath · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

RatsnevE wrote: »

ebondeath wrote: »

I stick with my DW set up. I have a second bar set up for bow, but I very rarely use it and I'm terrible with it.

Interesting... So you don't feel disadvantaged using only one bar of skills? And you don't feel a need to kite with the likes of Molag Bal?

With your DW do you pull or teleport attacks? Or both?

I always start with stealthed Ambush.

It's not very often that I feel disadvantaged as melee. Only for specific encounters (like one quest boss in Eastmarch, the king's brother) do I feel like I have to have the bow to be successful, and it's entirely for the knockback so I can kite because the mob hits too hard.

For me, it's easier to read incoming attack/spell ques as melee and interrupt them. So aside from those very few situations, my one bar of skills does the job almost all of the time. I only ever change out one ability (I swap between Shadow Cloak and Evil Hunter, both situational).

Did not have to kite Molag Bal. Im pretty sure I Strifed and Blood Crazed him to death. Lol

BBSooner · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Your characters potential is -so- much higher if you utilize the second set. I would strongly suggest learning it early, and getting comfortable swapping as soon as you can. 1 weapon bar will make you functional, true, but utilizing the second will actually make you valuable to whatever groups you're in.

Mud_Puppy · July 2014

I use the same style of weapons on both bars. Different sets though. Alessias bulwark sword and board on 1 and hundings rage on the other. Full effects for each when said bar is equipped.

Zorrashi · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

I typically only use my dual wield set for PvE. In PvP it is typically my bow. So I guess one weapon type per gameplay type.

The only time I began switching between weapon types is when I went up against that lich boss in Greenshade. But that was only one time. I just really needed distance and constant movement.

GreySix · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Primary uses a bow, and all secondary weapons are healing sticks.

The_Sadist · July 2014

I typically slot my secondary weapon in and throw spells I wish to level on the bar. When handing in quests I swap, get the exp and swap back. It works for me so I can't complain.

My Pyromancer DK has level 33 Destruction Staff (primary) and 32 1 Handed + Shield (for the inevitable tank role I'll go). Once the 1 Handed + Shield is maxed I'll slot in a Restoration Staff, rinse and repeat.

Azzuria · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Depends.

On my NB, she has a bow and twinned daggers. On my Templar, she has inferno and resto staves. My dps DK has two 2-handers, each with a different set-up, one bar for daedra and undead, one for stuff that's not dead... yet. Tanking-centric DK as 2-hander / Sword-n-Board.

jelliedsoup · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Is this a trick question? I'm amazed at the number who use a single bar. I have a DW and bow set. Use both depending on situation.

GreySix · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Question: Is there anyone who makes it to high levels without becoming at least a partial mage and using something like a restoration stick?

ebondeath · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

GreySix wrote: »

Question: Is there anyone who makes it to high levels without becoming at least a partial mage and using something like a restoration stick?

I have never touched a robe or a staff in the 59 1/2 levels that I've played my nightblade.

GreySix · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

ebondeath wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Question: Is there anyone who makes it to high levels without becoming at least a partial mage and using something like a restoration stick?

I have never touched a robe or a staff in the 59 1/2 levels that I've played my nightblade.

Interesting. You must have exceptionally superior "twich" keyboard and mouse skills.

Tannakaobi · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

It would be pretty silly not using the 2nd weapon.

The best idea is to level the one you consider your 2nd weapon bar first and put one skill on the bar that is part of your first.

For example, if you are a DW/Bow NB then start with the bow, but first unlock Twin Slashes and place it on your bow bar. That way you are still leveling the DW as well as the bow.

You can actually do this throughout the game only there is no point once you hit level 15 and have both bars.

On my main, a Nightblade. I use my bow for single targets and DW for multiple targets.

If for whatever reason you only want to use one weapon then just use the same weapon type as your 2nd also. That way you could have a bar for single targets and one for multiple targets. Or even just more skills that are useful but maybe not useful enough for your main bar.

someuser · July 2014

I not only use both weapon bars, I also require Outfitter (add-on) that allows you to make "pre-sets" for your weapon bars. That means, I can create a specific set-up on my weapon's bar, name it, and save it. When I'm out of combat I can recall whatever pre-set I need. As you advance in the game this becomes more important. Sometimes you are in situations where you need a CC (crowd control), or an interrupt, or a heal, or a guild skill (like silver bolt).

In other words, right now you may be able to get by with just 5 skills and an ultimate... That will change.

Remember, you need to set your bars up based on functionality. Make sure you think out your set-ups carefully.

Aeratus · July 2014

For solo questing, I only use one bar. The other bar is used to level up skills. That is, when I turn in quest, I swap to the other bar (along with a different weapon set) so that they get xp from turning in the quests. I found that this is the most efficient way to level up skills for a different weapon set. On my NB (v12), I have every weapon skill other than 2H at level 50.

In solo play, it is not necessary to use two bars because one bar is enough.

For group play, more performance is needed so I always use two bars. In dungeons, I have one bar with dstruction staff (for AOE damage), and the other bar with restoration staff (for single target dps and offheals). For PVP, I have one bar for ranged attack, and another for close range.

Nox_Aeterna · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Really important to my templar in VR , usually i use one bar for group fights (any weapon really) and another for bosses (healing staff).

ebondeath · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

GreySix wrote: »

ebondeath wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Question: Is there anyone who makes it to high levels without becoming at least a partial mage and using something like a restoration stick?

I have never touched a robe or a staff in the 59 1/2 levels that I've played my nightblade.

Interesting. You must have exceptionally superior "twich" keyboard and mouse skills.

I don't know. I have decent mouse reaction skills thanks to healing raids and pvp for four years, but my skills with the keyboard are abysmal. If I can bind it to the mouse, I do.

I think my real secret is that I'm very, very stubborn. I wanted to play dual wield with medium armor, and no reports of underpoweredness are going to stand in my way.

frankuguzzb16_ESO · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

Cannot even imagine to play with only 6 skills. I have a bar with Healing staff, and 4 shielding/empowering skills, and then i switch to main bar with melee 1h&s and CC.

LrdRahvin · July 2014

Neither...all my characters use NO weapons and h2h/punch their way all the way to vr12. L2P noobs

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ebondeath · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

LrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »

Neither...all my characters use NO weapons and h2h/punch their way all the way to vr12. L2P noobs

I really want unarmed combat as a viable skill tree.

NewBlacksmurf · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

For the ppl sticking with the set.
If you're dying or fussing about your chat....this is why

Seroczynski · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

If you only play with one bar you are seriously gimping your character. Make full use of your abilities, use the second action bar.

SFBryan18 · July 2014

I use a flame staff in slot one and a restoration staff in slot two. Works great.

AreoHotah · July 2014

Just one set keeps things simple and works great.

Seroczynski wrote: »

If you only play with one bar you are seriously gimping your character. Make full use of your abilities, use the second action bar.

Never used the 2nd bar
Im vr8 dual wield full medium nightblade (yeah that one) and im face rolling enemies...

leandro.800ub17_ESO · July 2014

I normal use Buffs and one Range skill on second bar then change to primary and go kill

Seroczynski · July 2014

Got to have range and melee or if nothing else more slotted skills available.

AreoHotah wrote: »

Seroczynski wrote: »

If you only play with one bar you are seriously gimping your character. Make full use of your abilities, use the second action bar.

Never used the 2nd bar
Im vr8 dual wield full medium nightblade (yeah that one) and im face rolling enemies...

I still think you are gimping your character. I don't play NB, but I could imagine the second bar being usefull only for the ability to switch between two ultimates in an instant.

You can't switch skill while being in-combat, but you can if you have them assigned to a second bar.

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