Becoming a hater hater...

Syntse · July 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Oh yes, and relies here...

Ragnar - it may, I hope not, but if it does I will not play... And I will be sad.

I dont get the hate on f2p, would you rather have an empty closed down game? Its like the kid with the basketball not getting picked for a team, then takes the ball home.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116260/should-eso-beta-go-free-to-play/p1

Wonder which one would be the empty and soon closed down game model judging by the poll, f2p or p2p.

F2P would be desperate try of cutting the losses when P2P doesn't cover it. And if F2P turns out to be just bunch of kids who go 'whee free ES' the servers are going down. Game making is not free. According to rumors ESO cost 200M, something has to cover it and it is not people who play for free.

williamburr2001b14_ESO · July 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

williamburr2001b14_ESO wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I just get irritated by all the over exaggeration and tantrum throwing. It's one thing to leave constructive feedback with ideas for people to discuss, and it's something completely different to just whine and scream nonsense all day over unspecified things. Going into random threads and making statements about bugs not being fixed, without any specific bug to discuss isn't constructive at all, and neither is all the constant comments that the game will end up this or that in the future because of whatever, as if anyone can predict the future. It's just so annoying to hear so much assumption from tantrum throwers. It's amazing how much $15 a month will change a persons behavior. Such a small amount, and it makes them believe they can moan about every little thing. I wonder if they'll ever look back and realize how childish they were? Maybe not. Ego always keeps the ignorant from evolving, and is possibly why they have so much free time on their hands in the first place.

Almost every sentence of this could be reflected right back at you, for every sentence of this very post.

The end gets especially hard to read, the part about free time, if one clicks your name, and sees 447 comments since May 12 of this year.

Not really. I'm not throwing a tantrum, this isn't a random thread, and I haven't made any predictions about the future. As for my free time, most of my posts are done from my iphone while I'm working, but that's none of your business.

By omission then, you still over-exaggerated, whined and screamed nonsense over unspecified things, threw around a bunch of assumption, let your behavior be changed by $15 a month, moaned about every little thing, and speculated whether you'll ever look back at your behavior and realize how childish you were. The bit about ego keeping the ignorant from evolving stands.

And that was taking the omission at face-value. I disagree that it wasn't a tantrum. Also no bonus points are awarded for pointing out that someone is paying you for your time, ostensibly not to do this. That's not what's meant by "free time."

Anyway, that aside, the problem is obvious, the solution more so: stop attacking people and stop taking negative opinions about the game personally.

kijima · July 2014

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

If you want to see how rageable I can be when things do not work check my history, I am sure that I will be complaining tomorrow about some sort of bug...

But 3 months in and I have played pretty much every hour I could... I have done all 3 alliances, ground anomalies, got an all gold outfit from hours of farming, spent 2 hours naked suiciding to light a torch, levelled 5 craft skills, taken a stamina NB to VR12, kicked & been kicked in PvP... And just had a wild time...

And I have more to do...

I still need to join some guilds, finish all sidequests, finish the group & public dungeons, do Craglorn properly, save up materials for my next kit upgrades...

I get effed off when the game is not right, i get frustrated when patches add bugs, i get annoyed with l2p posts... But not as much as I get angry with those posting with the 'i hope this game fails' mentality.

I am glad I ventured into online gaming and hope this game carries on being a sub only game for years to come.

I share your words, very much.

AngryNord · July 2014

No surer sign that a game is in serious trouble than fanbois starting to make post after post like this.

Mablung · July 2014

Syntse wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Oh yes, and relies here...

Ragnar - it may, I hope not, but if it does I will not play... And I will be sad.

I dont get the hate on f2p, would you rather have an empty closed down game? Its like the kid with the basketball not getting picked for a team, then takes the ball home.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116260/should-eso-beta-go-free-to-play/p1

Wonder which one would be the empty and soon closed down game model judging by the poll, f2p or p2p.

F2P would be desperate try of cutting the losses when P2P doesn't cover it. And if F2P turns out to be just bunch of kids who go 'whee free ES' the servers are going down. Game making is not free. According to rumors ESO cost 200M, something has to cover it and it is not people who play for free.

I used to be very anti f2p and then I gave it a try. It is gaming crack to be honest. I have spent more money than I should honestly. SWtoR has a nice model going for it atm. You can pay a subscription fee giving you access to everything you had initially at launch plus any new content, expansion packs and features they have added to the game.

Now add their microtransaction store (a misnomer if ever there was one) that has a ton of cosmetic items and consumables for both subscribers and free to play players.

They have just a handful of servers but they are all very active. It has been a nice break from this game and demonstrates that F2P can work for both the gamer and Developer.

SFBryan18 · July 2014

williamburr2001b14_ESO wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

williamburr2001b14_ESO wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I just get irritated by all the over exaggeration and tantrum throwing. It's one thing to leave constructive feedback with ideas for people to discuss, and it's something completely different to just whine and scream nonsense all day over unspecified things. Going into random threads and making statements about bugs not being fixed, without any specific bug to discuss isn't constructive at all, and neither is all the constant comments that the game will end up this or that in the future because of whatever, as if anyone can predict the future. It's just so annoying to hear so much assumption from tantrum throwers. It's amazing how much $15 a month will change a persons behavior. Such a small amount, and it makes them believe they can moan about every little thing. I wonder if they'll ever look back and realize how childish they were? Maybe not. Ego always keeps the ignorant from evolving, and is possibly why they have so much free time on their hands in the first place.

Almost every sentence of this could be reflected right back at you, for every sentence of this very post.

The end gets especially hard to read, the part about free time, if one clicks your name, and sees 447 comments since May 12 of this year.

Not really. I'm not throwing a tantrum, this isn't a random thread, and I haven't made any predictions about the future. As for my free time, most of my posts are done from my iphone while I'm working, but that's none of your business.

By omission then, you still over-exaggerated, whined and screamed nonsense over unspecified things, threw around a bunch of assumption, let your behavior be changed by $15 a month, moaned about every little thing, and speculated whether you'll ever look back at your behavior and realize how childish you were. The bit about ego keeping the ignorant from evolving stands.

And that was taking the omission at face-value. I disagree that it wasn't a tantrum. Also no bonus points are awarded for pointing out that someone is paying you for your time, ostensibly not to do this. That's not what's meant by "free time."

Anyway, that aside, the problem is obvious, the solution more so: stop attacking people and stop taking negative opinions about the game personally.

I did not over exaggerate. If anything, it was not enough to describe the crap at this forum. Slightly whiny? Depends on how you read in your head, but it was not nonsense. I didn't "throw" around a bunch of assumption, and at this point, you are obviously trolling. My behavior is the same as it has always been.

Seriously, there was very little hypocrisy in what I wrote and you don't even know me. You're just being a troll with the other guy. Two trolls don't make a right.

ZOS_CarolusS · July 2014

Hello everyone, since this thread has derailed into personal attacks, we will be closing it down.
In the future, we ask that all discussion and debate take place in a civil and constructive manner. We urge you to consult our Community Code of Conduct and the How to be an ESO Community Hero post for information on how to constructively convey your opinion. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding!